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  • @orion said:

    So I will ask you:  Who of these picks would you give back for an OLineman?    Graham, Schwesinger, Judkins, Fannin, Sampson

     - it's frustrating, I understand - 

    Don't do that to me damnit?Those 5 are fine so far, knock on wood.

    I think both RBs are going to be good fits, but drafting 2 RBs & 2 QBs was a bit mystifying to me. 

    Hindsight is always 20/20. I'm not as into the draft as many on this board, especially the seemingly never ending draft threads in October.

    Maybe step 1 was get (potential) playmakers. Step 2 may be more linemen, the problem is those guys in charge might get canned ( depends on Haslam's patience ultimately). Of course, the endless QB search is probably going to continue, & the chances the Browns get " their guy" is probably 50% or less ( we are due for some luck, but I'm not into losing 10-11-12-13 games to get there). If they lose 14 or more I don't know how any of these guys survive it ( coach, front office).

    @bob806 said:

    Don't do that to me damnit?

    I think both RBs are going to be good fits, but drafting 2 RBs & 2 QBs was a bit mystifying to me. 

    🙂

    They wanted Gabriel.  They had him as the #2 QB in the draft.  They envisioned, worse case scenario, he's the backup QB going forward.  Sanders fell to round 5.  Probably not finding your starting LT down there.  Might as well take a flier on Sanders.  We need(ed) a QB in the worst way.  

  • @bob806 said:

    Don't do that to me damnit?

    I think both RBs are going to be good fits, but drafting 2 RBs & 2 QBs was a bit mystifying to me. 

    🙂

    They wanted Gabriel.  They had him as the #2 QB in the draft.  They envisioned, worse case scenario, he's the backup QB going forward.  Sanders fell to round 5.  Probably not finding your starting LT down there.  Might as well take a flier on Sanders.  We need(ed) a QB in the worst way.  

    @orion said:

    🙂

    They wanted Gabriel.  They had him as the #2 QB in the draft.  They envisioned, worse case scenario, he's the backup QB going forward.  Sanders fell to round 5.  Probably not finding your starting LT down there.  Might as well take a flier on Sanders.  We need(ed) a QB in the worst way.  

    Makes sense on the LT. I want to be wrong about Gabriel, I suppose we will find out soon enough. 

  • beem me up scotty

  • @orion said:

    🙂

    They wanted Gabriel.  They had him as the #2 QB in the draft.  They envisioned, worse case scenario, he's the backup QB going forward.  Sanders fell to round 5.  Probably not finding your starting LT down there.  Might as well take a flier on Sanders.  We need(ed) a QB in the worst way.  

    Makes sense on the LT. I want to be wrong about Gabriel, I suppose we will find out soon enough. 

    @bob806 said:

    Makes sense on the LT. I want to be wrong about Gabriel, I suppose we will find out soon enough. 

    For me.. The difference between Gabriel and Sanders is glaring! Gabriel is more rhythmic... Crisp sharp passer... Better footwork.. Has a nice compact motion.. And another thing I noticed even through preseason... Gabriel always has his head into the game and is always by Flacco's side where Sanders seems to be on his own island.. Sanders just looks like a total project to me.. There's nothing about him that screams NFL QB to me.. He looks incredibly slow...

  • @bob806 said:

    Makes sense on the LT. I want to be wrong about Gabriel, I suppose we will find out soon enough. 

    For me.. The difference between Gabriel and Sanders is glaring! Gabriel is more rhythmic... Crisp sharp passer... Better footwork.. Has a nice compact motion.. And another thing I noticed even through preseason... Gabriel always has his head into the game and is always by Flacco's side where Sanders seems to be on his own island.. Sanders just looks like a total project to me.. There's nothing about him that screams NFL QB to me.. He looks incredibly slow...

    @nickers said:

    For me.. The difference between Gabriel and Sanders is glaring! Gabriel is more rhythmic... Crisp sharp passer... Better footwork.. Has a nice compact motion.. And another thing I noticed even through preseason... Gabriel always has his head into the game and is always by Flacco's side where Sanders seems to be on his own island.. Sanders just looks like a total project to me.. There's nothing about him that screams NFL QB to me.. He looks incredibly slow...

    You could be right, time will tell. 

    Gabriel has upside, I want to be wrong about his size holding him back. 

    Sanders, well this has got to be humbling for him. He still resides on an NFL roster, so he still has a chance to show what he's got. It's clear he has to earn playing time. 

  • The Browns added some guys to the PS squad...including 2 Tackles.  Also, glad to see Larvadian back.  I'd like to see him elevated to the 53 and play some WR for us.  somebody's gotta get open.

    Roster Additions

    • OT Joshua Miles
    • OT Tyre Phillips
    • WR Gage Larvadain
    • CB Tre Avery
  • @nickers said:

    For me.. The difference between Gabriel and Sanders is glaring! Gabriel is more rhythmic... Crisp sharp passer... Better footwork.. Has a nice compact motion.. And another thing I noticed even through preseason... Gabriel always has his head into the game and is always by Flacco's side where Sanders seems to be on his own island.. Sanders just looks like a total project to me.. There's nothing about him that screams NFL QB to me.. He looks incredibly slow...

    You could be right, time will tell. 

    Gabriel has upside, I want to be wrong about his size holding him back. 

    Sanders, well this has got to be humbling for him. He still resides on an NFL roster, so he still has a chance to show what he's got. It's clear he has to earn playing time. 

    @bob806 said:

    You could be right, time will tell. 

    Gabriel has upside, I want to be wrong about his size holding him back. 

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    Why did everyone laugh at me when I said I want to be an NFL QB dad?   

    Not sure son; but UCF is here wanting to give you a full ride to play QB for them next year.  Let's go welcome them to Fantasy Island!   

  • The Browns added some guys to the PS squad...including 2 Tackles.  Also, glad to see Larvadian back.  I'd like to see him elevated to the 53 and play some WR for us.  somebody's gotta get open.

    Roster Additions

    • OT Joshua Miles
    • OT Tyre Phillips
    • WR Gage Larvadain
    • CB Tre Avery

    @orion said:

    The Browns added some guys to the PS squad...including 2 Tackles.  Also, glad to see Larvadian back.  I'd like to see him elevated to the 53 and play some WR for us.  somebody's gotta get open.

    Roster Additions

    • OT Joshua Miles
    • OT Tyre Phillips
    • WR Gage Larvadain
    • CB Tre Avery

    Agree on Lavardain, give him a chance for sure. I'll have to look into the OTs, see how old are they, etc. 

  • @bob806 said:

    You could be right, time will tell. 

    Gabriel has upside, I want to be wrong about his size holding him back. 

    image.png.5cc0246ce306f7c1eafa376cb8aec658.png

    Why did everyone laugh at me when I said I want to be an NFL QB dad?   

    Not sure son; but UCF is here wanting to give you a full ride to play QB for them next year.  Let's go welcome them to Fantasy Island!   

    @flugel said:

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    He wanted to play for the Jets.  🙂    (the plane boss, the plane)

  • @orion said:

    The Browns added some guys to the PS squad...including 2 Tackles.  Also, glad to see Larvadian back.  I'd like to see him elevated to the 53 and play some WR for us.  somebody's gotta get open.

    Roster Additions

    • OT Joshua Miles
    • OT Tyre Phillips
    • WR Gage Larvadain
    • CB Tre Avery

    Agree on Lavardain, give him a chance for sure. I'll have to look into the OTs, see how old are they, etc. 

    @bob806 said:

    Agree on Lavardain, give him a chance for sure. I'll have to look into the OTs, see how old are they, etc. 

    Everyone except Larvadian has experience.

  • @bob806 said:

    Agree on Lavardain, give him a chance for sure. I'll have to look into the OTs, see how old are they, etc. 

    Everyone except Larvadian has experience.

    @orion said:

    Everyone except Larvadian has experience.

    Larvadain is a virgin? 

  • @orion said:

    Everyone except Larvadian has experience.

    Larvadain is a virgin? 

    @ibleedbrown said:

    Larvadain is a virgin? 

    Have you ever been, experienced?     ( Jimi )

  • @ibleedbrown said:

    Larvadain is a virgin? 

    Have you ever been, experienced?     ( Jimi )

    @orion said:

    Have you ever been, experienced?     ( Jimi )

  • @flugel said:

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    He wanted to play for the Jets.  🙂    (the plane boss, the plane)

    @orion said:

    He wanted to play for the Jets.  🙂    (the plane boss, the plane)

    That or he found a better audible than "OMAHA - OMAHA"

    Could you imagine if we saw our young height challenged QB, coincidentally with a lot of Tattoos, changing a play at the line of scrimmage with "DA PLANE - DA PLANE"???

    That might be the only way to mess with Micah Parsons.  The problem is - he isn't old enough to remember that Friday Night show with Tattoo back in the day. 

    In 1976, there were NO solutions for Jack Lambert. Having said that, the first time my dad drove us 4 hours away from Fairport, NY to see Cleveland play - Brian Sipe was unable to suit up.  There was a little known back-up named David Mays who I think was also a Dentist (believe it or not).  Anyway, one never knows what happens on the bottom of a pile in the NFL. This is ONLY a coincidence but it's pretty fricken funny that around the same time or very shortly thereafter - Lambert was missing his 2 front teeth.  BTW, the Browns won that game most remembered for Turkey Jones showing Pittsburgh he remembered Lambert's cheap shot out of bounds on Brian Sipe (just a few weeks earlier) by slamming Terry Bradshaw to the turf.  Karma never forgets but it kinda remembers 2 wrongs don't make a right. The Browns went on to finish 9-5 that year under Forrest Gregg; but they still didn't make the playoffs. I'm starting to think a younger version Roger Goodell had his heart broken that day; because he can't wait to punish the Browns any chance he gets 4-5 decades later...

  • @orion said:

    He wanted to play for the Jets.  🙂    (the plane boss, the plane)

    That or he found a better audible than "OMAHA - OMAHA"

    Could you imagine if we saw our young height challenged QB, coincidentally with a lot of Tattoos, changing a play at the line of scrimmage with "DA PLANE - DA PLANE"???

    That might be the only way to mess with Micah Parsons.  The problem is - he isn't old enough to remember that Friday Night show with Tattoo back in the day. 

    In 1976, there were NO solutions for Jack Lambert. Having said that, the first time my dad drove us 4 hours away from Fairport, NY to see Cleveland play - Brian Sipe was unable to suit up.  There was a little known back-up named David Mays who I think was also a Dentist (believe it or not).  Anyway, one never knows what happens on the bottom of a pile in the NFL. This is ONLY a coincidence but it's pretty fricken funny that around the same time or very shortly thereafter - Lambert was missing his 2 front teeth.  BTW, the Browns won that game most remembered for Turkey Jones showing Pittsburgh he remembered Lambert's cheap shot out of bounds on Brian Sipe (just a few weeks earlier) by slamming Terry Bradshaw to the turf.  Karma never forgets but it kinda remembers 2 wrongs don't make a right. The Browns went on to finish 9-5 that year under Forrest Gregg; but they still didn't make the playoffs. I'm starting to think a younger version Roger Goodell had his heart broken that day; because he can't wait to punish the Browns any chance he gets 4-5 decades later...

    @flugel said:

    Roger Goodell had his heart broken that day; because he can't wait to punish the Browns any chance he gets 4-5 decades later...

    I'm amazed that Judkins is playing and not suspended.

  • @orion said:

    He wanted to play for the Jets.  🙂    (the plane boss, the plane)

    That or he found a better audible than "OMAHA - OMAHA"

    Could you imagine if we saw our young height challenged QB, coincidentally with a lot of Tattoos, changing a play at the line of scrimmage with "DA PLANE - DA PLANE"???

    That might be the only way to mess with Micah Parsons.  The problem is - he isn't old enough to remember that Friday Night show with Tattoo back in the day. 

    In 1976, there were NO solutions for Jack Lambert. Having said that, the first time my dad drove us 4 hours away from Fairport, NY to see Cleveland play - Brian Sipe was unable to suit up.  There was a little known back-up named David Mays who I think was also a Dentist (believe it or not).  Anyway, one never knows what happens on the bottom of a pile in the NFL. This is ONLY a coincidence but it's pretty fricken funny that around the same time or very shortly thereafter - Lambert was missing his 2 front teeth.  BTW, the Browns won that game most remembered for Turkey Jones showing Pittsburgh he remembered Lambert's cheap shot out of bounds on Brian Sipe (just a few weeks earlier) by slamming Terry Bradshaw to the turf.  Karma never forgets but it kinda remembers 2 wrongs don't make a right. The Browns went on to finish 9-5 that year under Forrest Gregg; but they still didn't make the playoffs. I'm starting to think a younger version Roger Goodell had his heart broken that day; because he can't wait to punish the Browns any chance he gets 4-5 decades later...

    @flugel said:

    That or he found a better audible than "OMAHA - OMAHA"

    Could you imagine if we saw our young height challenged QB, coincidentally with a lot of Tattoos, changing a play at the line of scrimmage with "DA PLANE - DA PLANE"???

    That might be the only way to mess with Micah Parsons.  The problem is - he isn't old enough to remember that Friday Night show with Tattoo back in the day. 

    In 1976, there were NO solutions for Jack Lambert. Having said that, the first time my dad drove us 4 hours away from Fairport, NY to see Cleveland play - Brian Sipe was unable to suit up.  There was a little known back-up named David Mays who I think was also a Dentist (believe it or not).  Anyway, one never knows what happens on the bottom of a pile in the NFL. This is ONLY a coincidence but it's pretty fricken funny that around the same time or very shortly thereafter - Lambert was missing his 2 front teeth.  BTW, the Browns won that game most remembered for Turkey Jones showing Pittsburgh he remembered Lambert's cheap shot out of bounds on Brian Sipe (just a few weeks earlier) by slamming Terry Bradshaw to the turf.  Karma never forgets but it kinda remembers 2 wrongs don't make a right. The Browns went on to finish 9-5 that year under Forrest Gregg; but they still didn't make the playoffs. I'm starting to think a younger version Roger Goodell had his heart broken that day; because he can't wait to punish the Browns any chance he gets 4-5 decades later...

    Pete Rozelle is still the best commish the league ever had.. Paul Tagliabue barely had a pulse and was instrumental in helping Art leave town.. Goodell has done his level best to sissify and emasculate the game anyway he can.. The Woke agenda he has pushed makes it hard for the hardcore fan to enjoy real honest to god smash mouth football.. Which is what the Browns,Steelers, Bears , Packers and Giants were noted for.... Those teams in my mind really revolutionized and personified what real football was to me.. Today the game is barely recognizable with pint sized QB's running all over the place.. WR Diva's acting like petulant children.. And reminders of racism and race baiting slogans everywhere and confused male cheerleaders shaking their effeminate asses on the sidelines... Anyway... I thought you might get a kick out of these snaps my sister found when I played DE in little league ball back in 73.. Interestingly enough.. I had Lester Haynes number 37..

    Nick Nebraska 1.jpg

    Nick Nebraska 2.jpg

  • @flugel said:

    Roger Goodell had his heart broken that day; because he can't wait to punish the Browns any chance he gets 4-5 decades later...

    I'm amazed that Judkins is playing and not suspended.

    @orion said:

    I'm amazed that Judkins is playing and not suspended.

    Just give JollyRoger time...

  • @flugel said:

    That or he found a better audible than "OMAHA - OMAHA"

    Could you imagine if we saw our young height challenged QB, coincidentally with a lot of Tattoos, changing a play at the line of scrimmage with "DA PLANE - DA PLANE"???

    That might be the only way to mess with Micah Parsons.  The problem is - he isn't old enough to remember that Friday Night show with Tattoo back in the day. 

    In 1976, there were NO solutions for Jack Lambert. Having said that, the first time my dad drove us 4 hours away from Fairport, NY to see Cleveland play - Brian Sipe was unable to suit up.  There was a little known back-up named David Mays who I think was also a Dentist (believe it or not).  Anyway, one never knows what happens on the bottom of a pile in the NFL. This is ONLY a coincidence but it's pretty fricken funny that around the same time or very shortly thereafter - Lambert was missing his 2 front teeth.  BTW, the Browns won that game most remembered for Turkey Jones showing Pittsburgh he remembered Lambert's cheap shot out of bounds on Brian Sipe (just a few weeks earlier) by slamming Terry Bradshaw to the turf.  Karma never forgets but it kinda remembers 2 wrongs don't make a right. The Browns went on to finish 9-5 that year under Forrest Gregg; but they still didn't make the playoffs. I'm starting to think a younger version Roger Goodell had his heart broken that day; because he can't wait to punish the Browns any chance he gets 4-5 decades later...

    Pete Rozelle is still the best commish the league ever had.. Paul Tagliabue barely had a pulse and was instrumental in helping Art leave town.. Goodell has done his level best to sissify and emasculate the game anyway he can.. The Woke agenda he has pushed makes it hard for the hardcore fan to enjoy real honest to god smash mouth football.. Which is what the Browns,Steelers, Bears , Packers and Giants were noted for.... Those teams in my mind really revolutionized and personified what real football was to me.. Today the game is barely recognizable with pint sized QB's running all over the place.. WR Diva's acting like petulant children.. And reminders of racism and race baiting slogans everywhere and confused male cheerleaders shaking their effeminate asses on the sidelines... Anyway... I thought you might get a kick out of these snaps my sister found when I played DE in little league ball back in 73.. Interestingly enough.. I had Lester Haynes number 37..

    Nick Nebraska 1.jpg

    Nick Nebraska 2.jpg

    @nickers said:

    Pete Rozelle is still the best commish the league ever had.. Paul Tagliabue barely had a pulse and was instrumental in helping Art leave town.. Goodell has done his level best to sissify and emasculate the game anyway he can.. The Woke agenda he has pushed makes it hard for the hardcore fan to enjoy real honest to god smash mouth football.. Which is what the Browns,Steelers, Bears , Packers and Giants were noted for.... Those teams in my mind really revolutionized and personified what real football was to me.. Today the game is barely recognizable with pint sized QB's running all over the place.. WR Diva's acting like petulant children.. And reminders of racism and race baiting slogans everywhere and confused male cheerleaders shaking their effeminate asses on the sidelines... Anyway... I thought you might get a kick out of these snaps my sister found when I played DE in little league ball back in 73..

    Nick Nebraska 1.jpg

    Nick Nebraska 2.jpg

    You look ready to show any and all youth football opponents what it's like to deal with Ted Hendricks all day.  

  • @flugel said:

    Roger Goodell had his heart broken that day; because he can't wait to punish the Browns any chance he gets 4-5 decades later...

    I'm amazed that Judkins is playing and not suspended.

    @orion said:

    I'm amazed that Judkins is playing and not suspended.

    Agreed; but the NFL is still reviewing the incident to determine if any punishment/suspension is necessary.

  • @nickers said:

    Pete Rozelle is still the best commish the league ever had.. Paul Tagliabue barely had a pulse and was instrumental in helping Art leave town.. Goodell has done his level best to sissify and emasculate the game anyway he can.. The Woke agenda he has pushed makes it hard for the hardcore fan to enjoy real honest to god smash mouth football.. Which is what the Browns,Steelers, Bears , Packers and Giants were noted for.... Those teams in my mind really revolutionized and personified what real football was to me.. Today the game is barely recognizable with pint sized QB's running all over the place.. WR Diva's acting like petulant children.. And reminders of racism and race baiting slogans everywhere and confused male cheerleaders shaking their effeminate asses on the sidelines... Anyway... I thought you might get a kick out of these snaps my sister found when I played DE in little league ball back in 73..

    Nick Nebraska 1.jpg

    Nick Nebraska 2.jpg

    You look ready to show any and all youth football opponents what it's like to deal with Ted Hendricks all day.  

    @flugel said:

    You look ready to show any and all youth football opponents what it's like to deal with Ted Hendricks all day.  

    Thanks Man.. I was a big kid for my age... Team mates hated doing Oklahoma and hamburger drills with me... I was a load.. I would just pummel them into submission..  When we played games.. I literally tore down my side of whatever O line I was facing.. For kid who was blind in one eye I more than held my own... My Mentality was "Kill the guy with the ball". But then I found music to be a safer bet..I stopped growing when I was 15 anyway and topped out at 5'8".. And life goes on...