Tale of the Tape - Browns vs Packers

[Flugel]

@bob806 said:

We owe the Packers one. 2017 the refs gave them the game here ( & Hue, Kizer).  

Create some turnovers & convert into points. This is one game I had the Browns winning, right now that's looking bleak. 

Go Browns

I hear ya; and I'm not of the opinion the Browns get screwed a lot by officiating crews. That said, I do have an example where I join Troy Aikman in thinking the Browns got screwed against the same beneficiaries in green and yellow Bob. Troy Aikman commentated that Christmas Day Game in 2021 saying that Official who refused to call blatant interference on the GB DB needed to make that call and didn't.  I don't know if Troy put some cake down on the game; but he reacted like "I'm doing this game on a holiday and the officiating crew can't play straight pool?"  He went on to say something like people can blame Baker all they want but if the official in perfect position to make the call does the right thing - Cleveland wins this game.  

[Bob806]

@flugel said:

I hear ya; and I'm not of the opinion the Browns get screwed a lot by officiating crews. That said, I do have an example where I join Troy Aikman in thinking the Browns got screwed against the same beneficiaries in green and yellow Bob. Troy Aikman commentated that Christmas Day Game in 2021 saying that Official who refused to call blatant interference on the GB DB needed to make that call and didn't.  I don't know if Troy put some cake down on the game; but he reacted like "I'm doing this game on a holiday and the officiating crew can't play straight pool?"  He went on to say something like people can blame Baker all they want but if the official in perfect position to make the call does the right thing - Cleveland wins this game.  

I actually forgot about that play, maybe it was the Xmas bourbon binge lol. 

I do remember that was about the end for a certain someone who had the town in his hands, until another someone's dad decided to post a nasty video.

The Pack is playing well right now, the Browns aren't. All the makings of an upset special ( please?).

[Ibleedbrown]

Look at this beautiful map.

About half the nation gets to see the Browns game in all its glory this weekend, at least geographically speaking. Alaska is a big help if Juneau what l’m saying. 

All the big beefy northern states get the game. Minnesowwta, both Dakotas and Montana. It’s gonna be a Helena good time. 

And ALL of Ohio! How about that? Even my forsaken homies in Van Wert. 

Most of the rest of the midwest gets the action too. Indiana, Michigan, Wisconsin, Iowa and most of Illinois. Hopefully the Browns will win and we can raise a glass of Champaign. 

Here’s the link.

https://506sports.com/nfl.php?yr=2025&wk=3

And here’s a song about Montana.

[calfoxwc]

https://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2025/09/19/5-key-things-to-watch-in-green-bay-packers-week-3-game-vs-browns/86218074007/

5 key things to watch as the Green Bay Packers face the Cleveland Browns in Week 3

Key points:

 

• Packers quarterback Jordan Love is expected to continue attempting deep passes despite some missed opportunities.
• The potential absence of injured tight end Tucker Kraft could impact the Packers' offensive strategy.
• The Packers' offense will face a tough challenge against a Browns defense that leads the NFL in several key categories.

• Packers aren’t taking the ball away much but they’re not giving it up either

• Packers haven’t had to blitz much to create pressure on the quarterback

• Packers will have to use multiple tight ends to try to slow Browns defense

• Browns might not let the Packers offense get started

[Flugel]

@bob806 said:

We owe the Packers one. 2017 the refs gave them the game here ( & Hue, Kizer).  

Create some turnovers & convert into points. This is one game I had the Browns winning

Well done Bob!  

[Bob806]

@flugel said:

Well done Bob!  

Something about a blind squirrel lol. 

Wow, Delpit doesn't normally make many plays in pass defense but I absolutely love him in run support. How many times do we see DBs drop those gift-wrapped throws around the league? 

I was down in Cincinnati bowling the Hoinke Tournament, of course it was the BenGals game all over the TVs. One of the guys in our group had the Browns game on his phone. Nothing like 16 guys trying to watch a 2" x 4" screen???.

#woof, next week will be a extreme challenge, let's enjoy this W all week??

[Flugel]

@bob806 said:

Something about a blind squirrel lol. 

Wow, Delpit doesn't normally make many plays in pass defense but I absolutely love him in run support. How many times do we see DBs drop those gift-wrapped throws around the league? 

I was down in Cincinnati bowling the Hoinke Tournament, of course it was the BenGals game all over the TVs. One of the guys in our group had the Browns game on his phone. Nothing like 16 guys trying to watch a 2" x 4" screen???.

#woof, next week will be a extreme challenge, let's enjoy this W all week??

no, blind squirrel 

[tiamat63]

@bob806 said:

Something about a blind squirrel lol. 

Wow, Delpit doesn't normally make many plays in pass defense but I absolutely love him in run support. How many times do we see DBs drop those gift-wrapped throws around the league? 

I was down in Cincinnati bowling the Hoinke Tournament, of course it was the BenGals game all over the TVs. One of the guys in our group had the Browns game on his phone. Nothing like 16 guys trying to watch a 2" x 4" screen???.

#woof, next week will be a extreme challenge, let's enjoy this W all week??

 Delpit functions fine as a 2nd level defender. 

 When you move him back to that 3rd level he can be a liability.  Especially as a single high safety. 

[Dutch Oven]

@tiamat63 said:

 Delpit functions fine as a 2nd level defender. 

 When you move him back to that 3rd level he can be a liability.  Especially as a single high safety. 

What are your thoughts on Ronnie Hickman? I was talking to a friend during the game and mentioned that I thought a secondary need was a safety in the draft, he retorted that he liked both Delpit and Hickman. 

[tiamat63]

@dutch-oven said:

What are your thoughts on Ronnie Hickman? I was talking to a friend during the game and mentioned that I thought a secondary need was a safety in the draft, he retorted that he liked both Delpit and Hickman. 

 His first 3 games this season have been better than any 3 game stretch last year.   Granted, the bar was on the floor.  I think to back to Houston going bombs away on him in that playoff game - same weaknesses then that he had shown while at tOSU.  

 I see improvement, enough to consider him average-ish; but there's a caveat - He's playing behind an elite pass rush that has faced 2 OLs not ready to protect their QB. 

  What's popping out on film is  Myles giving Graham and Collins the opportunity to win along the interior and they're making the most of it.   Baltimore and GB actually threw doubles at Mason, Collins won. When GB doubled Collins, Mason won.  

 Yes, Ronnie is playing a bit better.   But his deficiencies will ultimately be masked by the pass rush more-so than quality DBs.  I'll believe the corner has been turned when I see him hold up in his assignments should Myles and Co. Have an off day. 

[TexasAg1969]

I'm just happy to see how well we are now pressuring QBs and cutting down on how much time DB's have to stay in the back pockets of receivers. I'm especially pleased with our rookies at DL and LB. Playing right from the start how I hoped they would.