The 2026 NFL DRAFT QB derby watch!
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Gabriel without a doubt will start games for the Browns. Once again, it’s September.
I hope you are right that at least one of the two starts and not just a couple at the meaningless end.
I hope you are right that at least one of the two starts and not just a couple at the meaningless end.
I’ll honestly be surprised if Gabriel isn’t starting by the end of October at the latest. I think they’ll let Flacco get through the next three opponents (Detroit, Pittsburgh and Minnesota) and then seriously consider making the switch to #8.
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Nobody here drafted them - but there's no way to evaluate them without seeing them play. Otherwise, why waste the 2 draft picks when you're coming off a 3-14 record with all the needs this team had going into the draft.
Gabriel without a doubt will start games for the Browns. Once again, it’s September.
Gabriel without a doubt will start games for the Browns. Once again, it’s September.
This has less to do with September than what Flacco looks like the first 3 games. That's our elephant in the room with a visit to Detroit on deck. As much as I hate throwing a rookie out to that scenario - I can't see Flacco snapping out of it against a defense that swarmed and sacked Lamar Monday Night. I'm okay with starting Flacco as long as the Browns put in the relief pitcher as soon as it's warranted...
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Gabriel without a doubt will start games for the Browns. Once again, it’s September.
This has less to do with September than what Flacco looks like the first 3 games. That's our elephant in the room with a visit to Detroit on deck. As much as I hate throwing a rookie out to that scenario - I can't see Flacco snapping out of it against a defense that swarmed and sacked Lamar Monday Night. I'm okay with starting Flacco as long as the Browns put in the relief pitcher as soon as it's warranted...
This has less to do with September than what Flacco looks like the first 3 games. That's our elephant in the room with a visit to Detroit on deck. As much as I hate throwing a rookie out to that scenario - I can't see Flacco snapping out of it against a defense that swarmed and sacked Lamar Monday Night. I'm okay with starting Flacco as long as the Browns put in the relief pitcher as soon as it's warranted...
It's funny how everyone hates to throw rookie QBs in too early yet almost everyone can't resist the thought of throwing rookie QBs in too early.
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I hope you are right that at least one of the two starts and not just a couple at the meaningless end.
I’ll honestly be surprised if Gabriel isn’t starting by the end of October at the latest. I think they’ll let Flacco get through the next three opponents (Detroit, Pittsburgh and Minnesota) and then seriously consider making the switch to #8.
I think they’ll let Flacco get through the next three opponents (Detroit, Pittsburgh and Minnesota) and then seriously consider making the switch to #8.
I'm on record somewhere 'round here saying I thought he'd start at Pittsburgh or the following week at home. Of course that depends on how things are rolling at that time. If we're winning and Flacco is doing ok then there will be no changes made. Josh Cribbs doesn't think it will happen until we're eliminated from the playoff race.
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I'm not sure there really is a better QB than either rookie we now have. OL and WR 1.
You aren't sure there is a QB in college now that is better than either rookie who haven't played one down in the regular season of an NFL game?
One rookie that I would guess the overall feeling is the Browns drafted a round or two early, and another rookie who seemingly is even behind THAT guy in the eyes of the coaching staff.
The Browns will have a top 10 pick.
You aren't sure there is a QB in college now that is better than either rookie who haven't played one down in the regular season of an NFL game?
One rookie that I would guess the overall feeling is the Browns drafted a round or two early, and another rookie who seemingly is even behind THAT guy in the eyes of the coaching staff.
The Browns will have a top 10 pick.
Neither has any college QB, so I don't understand your comment?
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This has less to do with September than what Flacco looks like the first 3 games. That's our elephant in the room with a visit to Detroit on deck. As much as I hate throwing a rookie out to that scenario - I can't see Flacco snapping out of it against a defense that swarmed and sacked Lamar Monday Night. I'm okay with starting Flacco as long as the Browns put in the relief pitcher as soon as it's warranted...
It's funny how everyone hates to throw rookie QBs in too early yet almost everyone can't resist the thought of throwing rookie QBs in too early.
It's funny how everyone hates to throw rookie QBs in too early yet almost everyone can't resist the thought of throwing rookie QBs in too early.
Not everyone. Probably just a lot of the guys that were old enough to see Kosar play in 12 games (starting 10 or 11 of those) as a rookie in 1985 to realize how important that experience was in order to take the next step in 1986 with a 12-4 record. The plan wasn't to start Bernie that early but Danielson got hurt so why not? That said, both Mack and Byner rushed for over 1000 yards apiece to take the pressure off the young QB. This team has 2 promising RBs that can help as well as an impressive tandem of TEs.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
It's funny how everyone hates to throw rookie QBs in too early yet almost everyone can't resist the thought of throwing rookie QBs in too early.
Not everyone. Probably just a lot of the guys that were old enough to see Kosar play in 12 games (starting 10 or 11 of those) as a rookie in 1985 to realize how important that experience was in order to take the next step in 1986 with a 12-4 record. The plan wasn't to start Bernie that early but Danielson got hurt so why not? That said, both Mack and Byner rushed for over 1000 yards apiece to take the pressure off the young QB. This team has 2 promising RBs that can help as well as an impressive tandem of TEs.
Not everyone. Probably just a lot of the guys that were old enough to see Kosar play in 12 games (starting 10 or 11 of those) as a rookie in 1985 to realize how important that experience was in order to take the next step in 1986 with a 12-4 record. The plan wasn't to start Bernie that early but Danielson got hurt so why not? That said, both Mack and Byner rushed for over 1000 yards apiece to take the pressure off the young QB. This team has 2 promising RBs that can help as well as an impressive tandem of TEs.
And an unimpressive depleted OL. What could go wrong. Flacco can be the sacrificial lamb (or old goat) until we are halfway through the next several losses.
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Not everyone. Probably just a lot of the guys that were old enough to see Kosar play in 12 games (starting 10 or 11 of those) as a rookie in 1985 to realize how important that experience was in order to take the next step in 1986 with a 12-4 record. The plan wasn't to start Bernie that early but Danielson got hurt so why not? That said, both Mack and Byner rushed for over 1000 yards apiece to take the pressure off the young QB. This team has 2 promising RBs that can help as well as an impressive tandem of TEs.
And an unimpressive depleted OL. What could go wrong. Flacco can be the sacrificial lamb (or old goat) until we are halfway through the next several losses.
And an unimpressive depleted OL. What could go wrong. Flacco can be the sacrificial lamb (or old goat) until we are halfway through the next several losses.
Well he is playing against the Lions in their home. Hopefully sacking Lamar Jackson 7 times diffused a little of their insatiable appetite.
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And an unimpressive depleted OL. What could go wrong. Flacco can be the sacrificial lamb (or old goat) until we are halfway through the next several losses.
Well he is playing against the Lions in their home. Hopefully sacking Lamar Jackson 7 times diffused a little of their insatiable appetite.
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Allar, nope.
Awful game vs the Ducks
Dude put up some monster stats.
14/25 137yards 2tds. 1int
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Dude put up some monster stats.
14/25 137yards 2tds. 1int
I don't want to root against a local kid, but he's just not NFL ready, maybe never will be.
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Dude put up some monster stats.
14/25 137yards 2tds. 1int
I don't want to root against a local kid, but he's just not NFL ready, maybe never will be.
But......................................................cal called this one so you both must be wrong.?
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Not everyone. Probably just a lot of the guys that were old enough to see Kosar play in 12 games (starting 10 or 11 of those) as a rookie in 1985 to realize how important that experience was in order to take the next step in 1986 with a 12-4 record. The plan wasn't to start Bernie that early but Danielson got hurt so why not? That said, both Mack and Byner rushed for over 1000 yards apiece to take the pressure off the young QB. This team has 2 promising RBs that can help as well as an impressive tandem of TEs.
And an unimpressive depleted OL. What could go wrong. Flacco can be the sacrificial lamb (or old goat) until we are halfway through the next several losses.
And an unimpressive depleted OL. What could go wrong. Flacco can be the sacrificial lamb (or old goat) until we are halfway through the next several losses.
It was the same situation the 1st time Flacco showed up here in 2023. On the OL the Browns were strong from Guard to Guard while OTs Jack Conklin (week 2) & Jed Wills (week 9) went on IR with rookie RT Dawand Jones joining them. Anyway, they had to sign an unemployed Geron Christian to replace the previous starter - and it felt like he improved the position even if by accident. There's something about a WILLINGNESS to break a sweat at Offensive Tackle that excites me for some inexplicable reason. Nothing has changed except the strength of schedule and the speed of Flacco's processor.
Were the FREAKIN cues and clues to upgrade the edges of pass protection from the lack of reliability and depreciated values at OT here that impossible to see from our FO? How many times can our FO watch the same exact result without understanding it? They didn't even take swing at strike 3 this year. The Giants landed a gem in round 5 Purdue's Marcus Mbow that the Browns SHOULD HAVE gone after if they were just going to make a joke out of the Sanders pick anyway.
While YES this was finally a good draft after 3 years without a 1st round draft pick and 2 years without a 2nd round draft pick - you better believe this FO owed our fanbase this a good draft for once. Not for nothing, last year's 2nd round pick DT Mike Hall Jr ain't exactly contributing yet in season #2 so let's stop being so damn forgiving until we move our edges of pass protection out further than the OGs for God sakes...
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I don't want to root against a local kid, but he's just not NFL ready, maybe never will be.
The only thing he has in common with Bernie Kosar aside from the local kid thing is ideal height. In fact, he has better mobility too but in a passing era - QBs get railroaded into a need for precision passing. While that deep throw for a TD was beautiful from Allar last night - it was really just a deep timing pattern to an area of the field that worked out much like Hail Mary passes do occasionally.
He'll probably get drafted by an NFL team that thinks they can go Dr Frankenstein-level on the re-wire process. I see a big heart in the kid and I like that but he's got the same problems he's had. Maybe it's just a need for better offensive coaching than Franklin & Staff are giving him as others have pointed out. I can't say.
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I don't want to root against a local kid, but he's just not NFL ready, maybe never will be.
On paper he checks all the boxes, but on the field when push comes to shove he just is so pedestrian so often, especially at crunch time. You can only blame his head coach being the slightly darker hued John Cooper so much.
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But......................................................cal called this one so you both must be wrong.?
I mean, he was right that ONE time about Josh Allen. So, as you know, that means I *must* defer to him.
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Allar and the Penn State offense were terrible. A big disaster, but I had to keep reminding myself who they were playing. Their oline was getting overrun, and Allar was worse than ineffective. egad.
I thought it was dumb to try to go wide with so many plays, when Oregon's defense is very, very fast. The DL guy, Alexander? is said to probably be a #1 draft pick next spring. And again, the announcers noted that Allar was having trouble finding open wr's. Penn state was not throwing downfield, which fed right into the Oregon defense. They did run a lot.
Except, for the fourth quarter, when they finally started letting him throw downfield. That 35 yard TD was a great throw. The game went into double overtime, a great slight of hand pitch-out to ...Allen? for a TD.
James Franklin is 4-21 vs top ten teams. That isn't an indictment against Allar. But, until the fourth quarter and overtime, Allar had a miserable day, the offense had a miserable day. Penn State has had an easy schedule, before Oregon....that doesn't help them.
Allar explains his huge mistake that ended the second overtime in a loss:
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Meanwhile.... Texas's Arch Manning had 4 touchdowns in a 55-0 win !against Sam Houston State, by far the worst team they will face all season. Next they play Florida and #7 Oklahoma. Manning looked miserable against Ohio State, we'll see.
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LSU's Garrett Nussmeier was 21-of-34 for 197 yards, one touchdown and one interception, in a loss to Ole Miss. There is some question about his health.
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Cade Clubnik, Clemson - has big states, they throw a LOT, but their team is 1-3, and his inconsistent play and mistakes has put some experts off on his Heisman chances/first round draft chances.
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It's still early, who knows who the top three qb's will be.
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But......................................................cal called this one so you both must be wrong.?
I mean, he was right that ONE time about Josh Allen. So, as you know, that means I *must* defer to him.
I mean, he was right that ONE time about Josh Allen. So, as you know, that means I *must* defer to him.
lol. gee thanks.
There is a lot to like about Manning and Allar. If you took Manning, put him with Sam Houston State, they would lose to Texas about the same score.
If you put Allar with Oregon, he might have had a great day. Oregon is a dominant team, so far. Their wins:
vs Montana State - 59-13
vs Oklahoma State - 69-3
vs Northwestern 34-14
vs Oregon State - 41-7
The Penn State oline could rarely hold up to the pass rush. It's a team game - I would have though Penn State's new wide receivers would have made a difference, but Oregon is a dominant defense.
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but WAIT !! There's MORE !!
The Oregon Linebackers - also dominant.
Sep 17, 2025Oregon Ducks linebackers Bryce Boettcher and Jerry Mixon recorded interceptions against the Northwestern Wildcats in week 3. Is Oregon's linebacker room shaping up to be one of the best in the nation?
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