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  • Safe to say the 2026 QB class hasn’t exactly knocked any of our socks off. 
     

    Well there’s another 6’5” Big Ten QB playing Oregon, this time it’s Indiana’s Fernando Mendoza. Indiana plays at Oregon Saturday at 3:30. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Safe to say the 2026 QB class hasn’t exactly knocked any of our socks off.

    I'm sure the 'experts' will crown a few QB's as must have players to trade up for once draft season starts next January/February.   We've got 12 games to figure out if we should be in the QB draft derby.  

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Safe to say the 2026 QB class hasn’t exactly knocked any of our socks off.

    I'm sure the 'experts' will crown a few QB's as must have players to trade up for once draft season starts next January/February.   We've got 12 games to figure out if we should be in the QB draft derby.  

    @orion said:

    I'm sure the 'experts' will crown a few QB's as must have players to trade up for once draft season starts next January/February.   We've got 12 games to figure out if we should be in the QB draft derby.  

    I don't think the Browns will have to trade UP with their pick for a QB... If anything, maybe trade DOWN.

  • @orion said:

    I'm sure the 'experts' will crown a few QB's as must have players to trade up for once draft season starts next January/February.   We've got 12 games to figure out if we should be in the QB draft derby.  

    I don't think the Browns will have to trade UP with their pick for a QB... If anything, maybe trade DOWN.

    @dutch-oven said:

    I don't think the Browns will have to trade UP with their pick for a QB... If anything, maybe trade DOWN.

    After losing to a beat to death Vikings offense...it's easy to feel like we're headed to the #1 overall pick.  But I think that the team will be getting better as the season goes on.  Unless the OL gets even worse.  

    As crazy as it sounds, we're not out of the running for the division title.  But we'll have to sweep the rest of the division games.  

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Safe to say the 2026 QB class hasn’t exactly knocked any of our socks off.

    I'm sure the 'experts' will crown a few QB's as must have players to trade up for once draft season starts next January/February.   We've got 12 games to figure out if we should be in the QB draft derby.  

    @orion said:

    I'm sure the 'experts' will crown a few QB's as must have players to trade up for once draft season starts next January/February.   We've got 12 games to figure out if we should be in the QB draft derby.  

    We have used up basically 5 picks on QB's over the last 4-5 years.

    We need to beef up some areas to surround any new QB or the ones we currently have.

    Until we do that, we are just going to keep chasing QB's.  I am a BPA guy when it comes to the draft, but somewhere inside those parameters, we need to come out of next years draft with 2 Olinemen and a WR after round 2.  

    Unless we are talking a late round pick, selecting a QB early is moronic for this team.

  • Somewhere Quinn Ewers has to be chuckling to himself considering all the hate he got for “blocking superstar Arch” last season. 

  • Trade deadline coming up this would be the right time to send maybe a 3rd round pick and grab a decent offensive tackle.
     

    we treat these picks like gold but I don’t want three rookies next year on the offensive line  

  • We currently have 10 draft picks for the 2026 draft...including three 5th round picks.  

  • We currently have 10 draft picks for the 2026 draft...including three 5th round picks.  

    @orion said:

    We currently have 10 draft picks for the 2026 draft...including three 5th round picks.  

    Considering we need about two of everything, the more picks the better

  • @orion said:

    We currently have 10 draft picks for the 2026 draft...including three 5th round picks.  

    Considering we need about two of everything, the more picks the better

    @dutch-oven said:

    Considering we need about two of everything, the more picks the better

    I hear you.  Do the Bills have another younger Wyatt Teller they can give us for 5th round pick? 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Considering we need about two of everything, the more picks the better

    I hear you.  Do the Bills have another younger Wyatt Teller they can give us for 5th round pick? 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    I hear you.  Do the Bills have another younger Wyatt Teller they can give us for 5th round pick? 

    Zak Zinter being pretty much worthless and Dawand Jones being pretty much made of glass below the waist has really screwed this team regarding the future of the OLine. At least Luke Wypler might be able to step in for Pocic. 

  • @orion said:

    We currently have 10 draft picks for the 2026 draft...including three 5th round picks.  

    Considering we need about two of everything, the more picks the better

    @dutch-oven said:

    Considering we need about two of everything, the more picks the better

    It's like Noah's Arc preparing for a storm...

  • So, "allar is a bum" because of his dismal performance loss to Oregon ? 

    then "manning is a bum" because of his dismal performance against Ohio State?

    NO.

    Their offenses were playing two of the most dominant defenses in all of college football.

    btw, I was also right about Matt Leinart, who Tiam and a few others, labeled as the "most NFL ready pocket passer in college football".

      Oh, I admit I ridiculed that. and Matt Leinart was not going to be "another Dan Marino" LOL LOL.

    We'll see how the rankings play out.

    @calfoxwc said:

    So, "allar is a bum" because of his dismal performance loss to Oregon ? 

    then "manning is a bum" because of his dismal performance against Ohio State?

    NO.

    Their offenses were playing two of the most dominant defenses in all of college football.

    btw, I was also right about Matt Leinart, who Tiam and a few others, labeled as the "most NFL ready pocket passer in college football".

      Oh, I admit I ridiculed that. and Matt Leinart was not going to be "another Dan Marino" LOL LOL.

    We'll see how the rankings play out.

    The guy who liked Matt Leinart was Shep quite a while before @tiamat63 arrived.  Around the same time though - you were annoying him with your Queer Eye for Charlie Frye.  That was harmless fun though...  

    Regarding Allar, beating up on all those inferior opponents with losing records isn't gonna save James Franklin from getting fired or the perception of Allar when he faces equivalent competition and loses. Beating up Tic Tac Toe Tech doesn't matter at all here. Not ALL his fault; but teams looking for a QB to transcend their program don't want to see as many "yeah but" alibis as you're willing to except for him.  This doesn't mean some team can't draft him and have success. It just means the right team has to do it and I'm guessing they need something better than what the Browns have railroaded themselves to at the OT positions for way too long. 3 years of IR at LT had our FO announces they're looking forward to a healthy recovery and getting him back in action.  What action?  That's been the problem for our big feller that can't even bend at a spot that usually faces the opponent's best pass rusher.  WR hasn't gone much better in the draft for this FO just yet.  Tillman is a possibility if he can ever stay healthy.

    As much as this team finally had it's 1st good draft - the FO neglect on the OL is inexcusable.  Bitonio hinted about retiring last year and returned for 1 more year.  Teller is going to be expensive to keep.  Wypler looks ready to step in at Center if/when needed.  No more 32 year old solutions like Cornelius Lucas please or Cam Robinson or poor #72 feeling like he's getting less respect than Rodney Dangerfield ever got.  This mess is cloudier than Van in Cheech & Chong's Up in Smoke movie.

  • FWIW, Dane Brugler of the Athletic has these guys as his top 3 college QBs at the moment.

    1. Dante Moore, Oregon
    2. LaNorris Sellers, South Carolina
    3. Fernando Mendoza, Indiana

    My evaluations of Sellers and Mendoza haven’t changed much since the summer. Sellers’ numbers aren’t eye-popping, but he makes plays on each tape that remind you how different he is. One more season in college for the 20-year-old QB’s continued development would be ideal, but he still belongs near the top of this year’s rankings.

    After transferring from Cal to Indiana, Mendoza was a top-20 prospect on my summer board, and he hasn’t disappointed. His physical traits aren’t remarkable, but his accuracy and football IQ are evident every time I study his game.

    The newcomer here is at No. 1, despite having a smaller sample size. Based on his five starts in 2025, Moore is on a first-round trajectory with a 14-to-1 touchdown-to-interception ratio and numerous plays on tape that scream “NFL quarterback.” There were several times against Penn State when it fell to Moore to rescue his offense, either with his arm or legs.

    I’m not bailing on LSU’s Garrett Nussmeier, but his eval is currently in limbo because of his injuries. Alabama’s Ty Simpson has only five career starts, but he might finish among the top three quarterbacks based on how he has played so far. And I didn’t grade Penn State’s Drew Allar or Clemson’s Cade Klubnik as first-rounders entering the season, so it should be no surprise neither was in consideration here.

    Arch Manning should be viewed as a 2027 (or 2028) prospect at this point.

  • FWIW, Dane Brugler of the Athletic has these guys as his top 3 college QBs at the moment.

    1. Dante Moore, Oregon
    2. LaNorris Sellers, South Carolina
    3. Fernando Mendoza, Indiana

    My evaluations of Sellers and Mendoza haven’t changed much since the summer. Sellers’ numbers aren’t eye-popping, but he makes plays on each tape that remind you how different he is. One more season in college for the 20-year-old QB’s continued development would be ideal, but he still belongs near the top of this year’s rankings.

    After transferring from Cal to Indiana, Mendoza was a top-20 prospect on my summer board, and he hasn’t disappointed. His physical traits aren’t remarkable, but his accuracy and football IQ are evident every time I study his game.

    The newcomer here is at No. 1, despite having a smaller sample size. Based on his five starts in 2025, Moore is on a first-round trajectory with a 14-to-1 touchdown-to-interception ratio and numerous plays on tape that scream “NFL quarterback.” There were several times against Penn State when it fell to Moore to rescue his offense, either with his arm or legs.

    I’m not bailing on LSU’s Garrett Nussmeier, but his eval is currently in limbo because of his injuries. Alabama’s Ty Simpson has only five career starts, but he might finish among the top three quarterbacks based on how he has played so far. And I didn’t grade Penn State’s Drew Allar or Clemson’s Cade Klubnik as first-rounders entering the season, so it should be no surprise neither was in consideration here.

    Arch Manning should be viewed as a 2027 (or 2028) prospect at this point.

    @ibleedbrown said:

    FWIW, Dane Brugler of the Athletic has these guys as his top 3 college QBs at the moment.

    1. Dante Moore, Oregon
    2. LaNorris Sellers, South Carolina
    3. Fernando Mendoza, Indiana

    My evaluations of Sellers and Mendoza haven’t changed much since the summer. Sellers’ numbers aren’t eye-popping, but he makes plays on each tape that remind you how different he is. One more season in college for the 20-year-old QB’s continued development would be ideal, but he still belongs near the top of this year’s rankings.

    After transferring from Cal to Indiana, Mendoza was a top-20 prospect on my summer board, and he hasn’t disappointed. His physical traits aren’t remarkable, but his accuracy and football IQ are evident every time I study his game.

    The newcomer here is at No. 1, despite having a smaller sample size. Based on his five starts in 2025, Moore is on a first-round trajectory with a 14-to-1 touchdown-to-interception ratio and numerous plays on tape that scream “NFL quarterback.” There were several times against Penn State when it fell to Moore to rescue his offense, either with his arm or legs.

    I’m not bailing on LSU’s Garrett Nussmeier, but his eval is currently in limbo because of his injuries. Alabama’s Ty Simpson has only five career starts, but he might finish among the top three quarterbacks based on how he has played so far. And I didn’t grade Penn State’s Drew Allar or Clemson’s Cade Klubnik as first-rounders entering the season, so it should be no surprise neither was in consideration here.

    Arch Manning should be viewed as a 2027 (or 2028) prospect at this point.

    I just happened to watch his hour or so show last night, it was really good! 

    Problem is, our four top "needs" seem to have question marks if you watch Brugler's video. The quarterback situation has two pretty inexperienced guys at the top who might not even come out, and if they do they won't have a ton of college starts. The top tackles are right tackle first guy and guy who might be a better guard. The top WRs are good but not great. The best cornerback might not even play this season. 

  • FWIW, Dane Brugler of the Athletic has these guys as his top 3 college QBs at the moment.

    1. Dante Moore, Oregon
    2. LaNorris Sellers, South Carolina
    3. Fernando Mendoza, Indiana

    My evaluations of Sellers and Mendoza haven’t changed much since the summer. Sellers’ numbers aren’t eye-popping, but he makes plays on each tape that remind you how different he is. One more season in college for the 20-year-old QB’s continued development would be ideal, but he still belongs near the top of this year’s rankings.

    After transferring from Cal to Indiana, Mendoza was a top-20 prospect on my summer board, and he hasn’t disappointed. His physical traits aren’t remarkable, but his accuracy and football IQ are evident every time I study his game.

    The newcomer here is at No. 1, despite having a smaller sample size. Based on his five starts in 2025, Moore is on a first-round trajectory with a 14-to-1 touchdown-to-interception ratio and numerous plays on tape that scream “NFL quarterback.” There were several times against Penn State when it fell to Moore to rescue his offense, either with his arm or legs.

    I’m not bailing on LSU’s Garrett Nussmeier, but his eval is currently in limbo because of his injuries. Alabama’s Ty Simpson has only five career starts, but he might finish among the top three quarterbacks based on how he has played so far. And I didn’t grade Penn State’s Drew Allar or Clemson’s Cade Klubnik as first-rounders entering the season, so it should be no surprise neither was in consideration here.

    Arch Manning should be viewed as a 2027 (or 2028) prospect at this point.

    @ibleedbrown said:

    1. Dante Moore, Oregon
    2. LaNorris Sellers, South Carolina
    3. Fernando Mendoza, Indiana

    Moore and Sellers are two excellent qb's, but sophomores, so I don't include them in the next qb derby.

    Mendoza - not sure who to compare him to in the pros, but it's a good bet he's a first round pick in 2027. He's a junior. Maybe I'd compare him to Dan Marino, who was 6'4", 224 lbs, and wasn't a scrambler.

    Interesting, with Allar struggling a bit, and Manning having some serious troubles, https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/arch-manning-vs-florida-full-breakdown-of-stats-highlights-overall-impact/ar-AA1NY1qC other names come up

    . One is red shirt junior Ty Simpson, who is getting a lot of serious attention, and is rocking with Alabama.

    https://www.si.com/fannation/college/cfb-hq/news/sec-quarterback-power-rankings-for-week-7-simpson-shines-lagway-rebounds

    It's interesting. Sophomores can't be drafted, (unless they were redshirted?)

    but here are is the rule I looked up.

    "To be eligible for the NFL Draft, college players must be at least three years removed from high school and have either exhausted their college football eligibility or declared for the draft early. Underclassmen who have completed at least three seasons of college football can also enter the draft as early entrants."

    but then, there is this:

    "The top quarterback prospects for the 2026 NFL Draft currently include Dante Moore from Oregon, Garrett Nussmeier from LSU, and LaNorris Sellers from South Carolina, with Moore being highlighted for his fluid passing and strong field vision. Rankings may change as the college football season progresses and more games are played.

    so, sophomores can be drafted? they are only two years out of hs?

    beats me.

    but with Manning at #7 and Allar at #8, who knows who the first round picks are really going to end up being.

    A good article on the list - Walter Football:

    https://walterfootball.com/QBRankings2026.php

  • Sweet 8lb, 6oz baby Jesus. 

    Reading the above word salad makes me understand why cal needs to have his fantasy football teams auto-drafted for him. 

    You have to be removed from your graduating class three years to be draft eligible. True sophomores are not eligible because they have only played two years of college ball, but redshirt sophomores are because they were in college for three years. Bernie Kosar was a redshirt sophomore when he came to the Browns in the 1985 supplemental draft. 

    Moore and Sellers are both redshirt sophomores, so yes simple cal, they are eligible for the 2026 NFL Draft. Now, an argument can be made for both that they should go back for another season of college ball, but I digress. 

    Indiana's Fernando Mendoza is a redshirt junior. He could go back for one more season after this one, but he might be a first round pick in the upcoming draft. 

  • In the Alabama vs Vandy Game last week - Ty Simpson looked good enough to make a 5-0 Vandy team 5-1.  Very sharp and accurate.  Strong arm IMO. He threw his 1st pick of the year.

    However, this is his only year as the starter; so I would think coming back for a senior year could give him a shot at being the 1st QB off the board in 2027.  EDIT: ESPN Lists him at 6'2" tall to go with very good mobility I saw from him.

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  • Penn State's season is officially a dumpster fire...

    They went into the Oregon game three weeks as a possible national title contender, three losses later they are pretty much out of playoff contention and Drew Allar suffered a season and college career ending injury. It appeared he suffered some kind of ankle(?) injury. 

    I feel bad for the kid. 

  • well, Allar is out for the rest of the season. No idea what happened to Penn State. Yep, he came back to win a championship, but it turned into a nightmare.

    https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/46565328/drew-allar-suffers-season-ending-injury-penn-state-loses

  • Very interesting....

    https://www.foxnews.com/sports/2025-heisman-trophy-odds

    2025 Heisman Trophy Odds: Fernando Mendoza Surges, Dante Moore Falls