Kevin Stefanski is.....
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Good stuff .
It doesn't show the maddening "illegal formations" that we seem to excell at- maybe it's in the last column under *other "
That's possible, and something I'd have to dig deeper into.
I have noticed the NFL has put a huge emphasis on IF this year. I'm not talking about receivers being lined up in the backfield either. Line judges are closely watching the OTs of these squads.
For the last few seasons you've seen coaches try some ticky tack shit to get an advantage on the edge. The kick step that doesnt plant technically not being a false start... i know that one had a lot of us up in arms.
The next one has been OL depth off of center. Teams have been trying to hide their questionable tackle play by taking that half step cheat off the line. That just ain't flying this season. If line judges don't see guards and tackles at middle mass of the center - they're calling it early and often.
Which sucks for teams like the Browns because we're dealing with a ton of injuries and just a straight up lack of talent. So those little cheats that might have helped in pass pro are now firmly under the microscope.
That's possible, and something I'd have to dig deeper into.
I have noticed the NFL has put a huge emphasis on IF this year.
I used to love it as a kid/young adult where all the stats were posted in the newspaper weekly ( Plain Dealer).
Another thing that's changed recently is many teams have one of their Guards come out of their stance to "look around" pre-snap, which isn't a false start anymore.....the Steelers guy did it for years.
Too many penalties make games unwatchable at times, especially pre-snap penalties IMHO. Aggressive penalties we all understand for the most part.
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The it will grieve you to know that if you add up and compare both Stefs and Vrabels mutual coaching years, discounting 2024 because Mike was out, the difference in total team penalties on the year over 4.25 seasons between them is a grand total of 2.4.
With the largest percentage of increase from CLE being on the defensive side - offsides calls. The cost of doing business with an incredibly aggressive Schwartz defense.
Edit: What I'm getting at is this - the idea that Vrabels teams are the shining beacon on the hill and Browns under Stef are bottom rung is demonstratabely false.
This isn't even subjective. The data I linked you shows this.
There has been minimum average difference between Vrabel and Stefanski over the years in terms of penalties.
Both have a commonality though - OL play. Tennessee and Cleveland both saw increases in OL penalties as the play decayed and age increased from 2020 forward.
I get all of that.. My point is.. Nothing gets better under Stefanski regardless of the personnel... He is terrible.. Im not saying Vrabel is the greatest thing since sliced bread either... He didnt fare to well in the end in Tenn.. Although he squeezed all he could out of Pat Tannehill... I would just prefer Vrabels style of discipline over Kevins...
I get all of that.. My point is.. Nothing gets better under Stefanski regardless of the personnel...
Wouldn't four different starting QBs being lead to a playoff appearance in 2023 have some merit towards improvement?
The running game has improved from the 2023 and 2024 seasons now that Ford has been put on the backburner.
The pass catching situation has improved.
But these things have coincided with the OL situation being on a steady decline.
Although he squeezed all he could out of Pat Tannehill...
If you flipped names around like Jacoby Brissett, Joe Flacco and PJ Walker, you'd be able to argue the same for Stef. Only none of them had Derrick Henry and the latter two not even a healthy Nick Chubb.
I would just prefer Vrabels style of discipline over Kevins...
I understand. The old school hard-ass style. I grew up under that and, to an extent, my coaching style was/is (somewhat) similar.
But it's a result oriented business. And when it comes to penalty discipline, the numbers say these two coaches aren't all that far apart.
So it's a matter of personal preference. What I appreciate about both coaches is that neither will be something they aren't. Vrabel is brash and hardline, Stef stoic and near robotic calm. They can both make it work, plenty of evidence to support that. But both coaches were handed decent rosters that have withered over time.
If you take issue with Haslam, Berry and their drafts, which you have, then it's important to say that the first victims of talent deficiency are the coaches. Can't cook with ingredients you don't have.
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I get all of that.. My point is.. Nothing gets better under Stefanski regardless of the personnel...
Wouldn't four different starting QBs being lead to a playoff appearance in 2023 have some merit towards improvement?
The running game has improved from the 2023 and 2024 seasons now that Ford has been put on the backburner.
The pass catching situation has improved.
But these things have coincided with the OL situation being on a steady decline.
Although he squeezed all he could out of Pat Tannehill...
If you flipped names around like Jacoby Brissett, Joe Flacco and PJ Walker, you'd be able to argue the same for Stef. Only none of them had Derrick Henry and the latter two not even a healthy Nick Chubb.
I would just prefer Vrabels style of discipline over Kevins...
I understand. The old school hard-ass style. I grew up under that and, to an extent, my coaching style was/is (somewhat) similar.
But it's a result oriented business. And when it comes to penalty discipline, the numbers say these two coaches aren't all that far apart.
So it's a matter of personal preference. What I appreciate about both coaches is that neither will be something they aren't. Vrabel is brash and hardline, Stef stoic and near robotic calm. They can both make it work, plenty of evidence to support that. But both coaches were handed decent rosters that have withered over time.
If you take issue with Haslam, Berry and their drafts, which you have, then it's important to say that the first victims of talent deficiency are the coaches. Can't cook with ingredients you don't have.
Wouldn't four different starting QBs being lead to a playoff appearance in 2023 have some merit towards improvement?
The running game has improved from the 2023 and 2024 seasons now that Ford has been put on the backburner.
The pass catching situation has improved.
But these things have coincided with the OL situation being on a steady decline.
If you flipped names around like Jacoby Brissett, Joe Flacco and PJ Walker, you'd be able to argue the same for Stef. Only none of them had Derrick Henry and the latter two not even a healthy Nick Chubb.
I understand. The old school hard-ass style. I grew up under that and, to an extent, my coaching style was/is (somewhat) similar.
But it's a result oriented business. And when it comes to penalty discipline, the numbers say these two coaches aren't all that far apart.
So it's a matter of personal preference. What I appreciate about both coaches is that neither will be something they aren't. Vrabel is brash and hardline, Stef stoic and near robotic calm. They can both make it work, plenty of evidence to support that. But both coaches were handed decent rosters that have withered over time.
If you take issue with Haslam, Berry and their drafts, which you have, then it's important to say that the first victims of talent deficiency are the coaches. Can't cook with ingredients you don't have.
On that we can agree!
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Neither can I.
However, players of yesteryear were coached differently all along the way. I don't think players of today have been punished the same way for mistakes as they were 20 or more years ago.
Well Peen that's what I mean.. Kevin has 0 discipline.... Look at the difference between what Mike Vrabel and Kevin.. Kevin is a WIMP!
Look at the difference between what Mike Vrabel and Kevin.. Kevin is a WIMP!
nickers likes big powerful men behind him
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The it will grieve you to know that if you add up and compare both Stefs and Vrabels mutual coaching years, discounting 2024 because Mike was out, the difference in total team penalties on the year over 4.25 seasons between them is a grand total of 2.4.
With the largest percentage of increase from CLE being on the defensive side - offsides calls. The cost of doing business with an incredibly aggressive Schwartz defense.
Edit: What I'm getting at is this - the idea that Vrabels teams are the shining beacon on the hill and Browns under Stef are bottom rung is demonstratabely false.
This isn't even subjective. The data I linked you shows this.
There has been minimum average difference between Vrabel and Stefanski over the years in terms of penalties.
Both have a commonality though - OL play. Tennessee and Cleveland both saw increases in OL penalties as the play decayed and age increased from 2020 forward.
I get all of that.. My point is.. Nothing gets better under Stefanski regardless of the personnel... He is terrible.. Im not saying Vrabel is the greatest thing since sliced bread either... He didnt fare to well in the end in Tenn.. Although he squeezed all he could out of Pat Tannehill... I would just prefer Vrabels style of discipline over Kevins...
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Titans make the first firing at head coach. Brian Callahan gets his pink slip.
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Titans make the first firing at head coach. Brian Callahan gets his pink slip.
Titans make the first firing at head coach. Brian Callahan gets his pink slip.
maybe we can bring his dad back
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Let's fire Stef today so that the Titans can hire him tomorrow and we can hire the Callahans to be the next casualties.
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Kevin Stefanski is pathetic... He instills nothing... 0 discipline... This team still has,, "False Start" "Illegal Motion" "Illegal Formation" "Neutral Zone Infraction" "Encroachment"... These are things that high school teams clear up after a week of practice.. Here it is.. We're in year 6... And this goofball has no control whatsover over this team... I don't care if he's a "Good Catholic" or not... His time is up!
Totally understand your feelings Nicks! The best way to describe Stefanski and HIS offense is STALE. The response to a 3-14 record is 1-4 football nobody is happy with. As much as it is nice to see Judkins playing extremely well in spite of it all - they're giving a guy with NO TRAINING CAMP a gigantic workload on a collision course for injury. The pass protection on the edges SUCKs as I knew it would when I said we needed a Tackle this draft. Since it seemed like Ford got more reps than Sampson - we could have waited 1 more year to draft the 2nd RB considering how important OT is to winning. We also didn't need to draft the 2nd QB half the brain trust didn't approve of here in the first place
The defense (that Stefanski has nothing to do with) has kept us in games that has been rarely rewarded on the scoreboard for doing so (2 became blowouts when the offense and time of possession flat lined in the 1st half). The lone win was 13-10 thanks in large to the defense and kicker (who kicked 2 FGS and an extra point).
Whether your wish comes true or not Nicks - just know the same guy that hired Stefanski (and the 2-3 HCs before him) - is still going to be the knucklehead in charge of hiring the HC in Jimmy's business.
Totally understand your feelings Nicks! The best way to describe Stefanski and HIS offense is STALE. The response to a 3-14 record is 1-4 football nobody is happy with. As much as it is nice to see Judkins playing extremely well in spite of it all - they're giving a guy with NO TRAINING CAMP a gigantic workload on a collision course for injury. The pass protection on the edges SUCKs as I knew it would when I said we needed a Tackle this draft. Since it seemed like Ford got more reps than Sampson - we could have waited 1 more year to draft the 2nd RB considering how important OT is to winning. We also didn't need to draft the 2nd QB half the brain trust didn't approve of here in the first place
The defense (that Stefanski has nothing to do with) has kept us in games that has been rarely rewarded on the scoreboard for doing so (2 became blowouts when the offense and time of possession flat lined in the 1st half). The lone win was 13-10 thanks in large to the defense and kicker (who kicked 2 FGS and an extra point).
Whether your wish comes true or not Nicks - just know the same guy that hired Stefanski (and the 2-3 HCs before him) - is still going to be the knucklehead in charge of hiring the HC in Jimmy's business.
Is this the look of a GM that knows what he’s doing?
Rizzo was on fire yesterday.
”The Bengals scored more than we did and we dealt them the Quarterback!!
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Totally understand your feelings Nicks! The best way to describe Stefanski and HIS offense is STALE. The response to a 3-14 record is 1-4 football nobody is happy with. As much as it is nice to see Judkins playing extremely well in spite of it all - they're giving a guy with NO TRAINING CAMP a gigantic workload on a collision course for injury. The pass protection on the edges SUCKs as I knew it would when I said we needed a Tackle this draft. Since it seemed like Ford got more reps than Sampson - we could have waited 1 more year to draft the 2nd RB considering how important OT is to winning. We also didn't need to draft the 2nd QB half the brain trust didn't approve of here in the first place
The defense (that Stefanski has nothing to do with) has kept us in games that has been rarely rewarded on the scoreboard for doing so (2 became blowouts when the offense and time of possession flat lined in the 1st half). The lone win was 13-10 thanks in large to the defense and kicker (who kicked 2 FGS and an extra point).
Whether your wish comes true or not Nicks - just know the same guy that hired Stefanski (and the 2-3 HCs before him) - is still going to be the knucklehead in charge of hiring the HC in Jimmy's business.
Is this the look of a GM that knows what he’s doing?
Rizzo was on fire yesterday.
”The Bengals scored more than we did and we dealt them the Quarterback!!
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Totally understand your feelings Nicks! The best way to describe Stefanski and HIS offense is STALE. The response to a 3-14 record is 1-4 football nobody is happy with. As much as it is nice to see Judkins playing extremely well in spite of it all - they're giving a guy with NO TRAINING CAMP a gigantic workload on a collision course for injury. The pass protection on the edges SUCKs as I knew it would when I said we needed a Tackle this draft. Since it seemed like Ford got more reps than Sampson - we could have waited 1 more year to draft the 2nd RB considering how important OT is to winning. We also didn't need to draft the 2nd QB half the brain trust didn't approve of here in the first place
The defense (that Stefanski has nothing to do with) has kept us in games that has been rarely rewarded on the scoreboard for doing so (2 became blowouts when the offense and time of possession flat lined in the 1st half). The lone win was 13-10 thanks in large to the defense and kicker (who kicked 2 FGS and an extra point).
Whether your wish comes true or not Nicks - just know the same guy that hired Stefanski (and the 2-3 HCs before him) - is still going to be the knucklehead in charge of hiring the HC in Jimmy's business.
Is this the look of a GM that knows what he’s doing?
Rizzo was on fire yesterday.
”The Bengals scored more than we did and we dealt them the Quarterback!!
Is this the look of a GM that knows what he’s doing?
Rizzo was on fire yesterday.
”The Bengals scored more than we did and we dealt them the Quarterback!!
Rizzo, like most local media, is a fucking clown.
Of course they scored more - they have two of the best WRs in the NFL.
My post from the Trade...
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Unless Joe shaves off 15 years along with Chase and Higgy catching every single 50/50 ball imaginable, Joe is going to take as many, likely more, hits and sacks than he did in CLE.
If he doesnt, then expect another high turnover stretch from him.
Per the usual, he'll have one decent game... fans will go nuts on both sides for different reasons, then he'll fade back to the mean and people will magically forget their uproar.
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So... both have happened. But this is the result from media when you have to produce shows daily or every other day. You end up just having to say dumb, inflammatory shit just to fill time.
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Is this the look of a GM that knows what he’s doing?
Rizzo was on fire yesterday.
”The Bengals scored more than we did and we dealt them the Quarterback!!
Rizzo, like most local media, is a fucking clown.
Of course they scored more - they have two of the best WRs in the NFL.
My post from the Trade...
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Unless Joe shaves off 15 years along with Chase and Higgy catching every single 50/50 ball imaginable, Joe is going to take as many, likely more, hits and sacks than he did in CLE.
If he doesnt, then expect another high turnover stretch from him.
Per the usual, he'll have one decent game... fans will go nuts on both sides for different reasons, then he'll fade back to the mean and people will magically forget their uproar.
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So... both have happened. But this is the result from media when you have to produce shows daily or every other day. You end up just having to say dumb, inflammatory shit just to fill time.
Rizzo, like most local media, is a fucking clown.
Of course they scored more - they have two of the best WRs in the NFL.
My post from the Trade...
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Unless Joe shaves off 15 years along with Chase and Higgy catching every single 50/50 ball imaginable, Joe is going to take as many, likely more, hits and sacks than he did in CLE.
If he doesnt, then expect another high turnover stretch from him.
Per the usual, he'll have one decent game... fans will go nuts on both sides for different reasons, then he'll fade back to the mean and people will magically forget their uproar.
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So... both have happened. But this is the result from media when you have to produce shows daily or every other day. You end up just having to say dumb, inflammatory shit just to fill time.
Yes Joe instantly went into a better enviornment..... Our WR's can't catch a freakin cold...
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Rizzo, like most local media, is a fucking clown.
Of course they scored more - they have two of the best WRs in the NFL.
My post from the Trade...
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Unless Joe shaves off 15 years along with Chase and Higgy catching every single 50/50 ball imaginable, Joe is going to take as many, likely more, hits and sacks than he did in CLE.
If he doesnt, then expect another high turnover stretch from him.
Per the usual, he'll have one decent game... fans will go nuts on both sides for different reasons, then he'll fade back to the mean and people will magically forget their uproar.
****
So... both have happened. But this is the result from media when you have to produce shows daily or every other day. You end up just having to say dumb, inflammatory shit just to fill time.
Yes Joe instantly went into a better enviornment..... Our WR's can't catch a freakin cold...
Yes Joe instantly went into a better enviornment..... Our WR's can't catch a freakin cold...
There's the idea though. Once Chase and Higgy have an off game, or meet bigger DBs that deny contested catches in favor of better place passes, you're going to see the Cincy offense stall out.
To an extent, that was the biggest part of Flaccos magic in the Ravens last Superbowl run which goes overlooked - Anquon Boldin going on an absolute tear and catching every single thing thrown his way.
Without him and his gift, Baltimore never sniffs that Superbowl.
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But you have no intention of sharing Dutchboy.
It’s pretty apparent I’ve set up shop in your head, Gorka.
In fact, I have a feeling you, nickers, cal and Steve use the tears I cause all of you for lube during your Klan meetings over on the Poliboard ?.
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Yes Joe instantly went into a better enviornment..... Our WR's can't catch a freakin cold...
There's the idea though. Once Chase and Higgy have an off game, or meet bigger DBs that deny contested catches in favor of better place passes, you're going to see the Cincy offense stall out.
To an extent, that was the biggest part of Flaccos magic in the Ravens last Superbowl run which goes overlooked - Anquon Boldin going on an absolute tear and catching every single thing thrown his way.
Without him and his gift, Baltimore never sniffs that Superbowl.
There's the idea though. Once Chase and Higgy have an off game, or meet bigger DBs that deny contested catches in favor of better place passes, you're going to see the Cincy offense stall out.
To an extent, that was the biggest part of Flaccos magic in the Ravens last Superbowl run which goes overlooked - Anquon Boldin going on an absolute tear and catching every single thing thrown his way.
Without him and his gift, Baltimore never sniffs that Superbowl.
And their defense as always played lights out when it mattered.. I.E. Trent Dilfer...
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It’s pretty apparent I’ve set up shop in your head, Gorka.
In fact, I have a feeling you, nickers, cal and Steve use the tears I cause all of you for lube during your Klan meetings over on the Poliboard ?.
Oh hush up, you’re never in my head, you’re in Syds ass. Always have been.
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It’s pretty apparent I’ve set up shop in your head, Gorka.
In fact, I have a feeling you, nickers, cal and Steve use the tears I cause all of you for lube during your Klan meetings over on the Poliboard ?.
Oh hush up, you’re never in my head, you’re in Syds ass. Always have been.
Oh hush up, you’re never in my head, you’re in Syds ass. Always have been.
The guy who took another man’s name for his own making gay jokes? I apparently was in your head enough to make you change your name and then hide over on the Poliboard for months ? You have a “dead name” because of me ?
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