5 QB’s In The Room
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Ultimately, even though Gabriel is the starter at the moment, it sure seems like his starting spot is far from secure. So, in a scenario where neither rookie quarterback grabs hold of the reins and performs well before Watson returns to practice, we could see Watson get the next crack at starting in Cleveland.
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Ultimately, even though Gabriel is the starter at the moment, it sure seems like his starting spot is far from secure. So, in a scenario where neither rookie quarterback grabs hold of the reins and performs well before Watson returns to practice, we could see Watson get the next crack at starting in Cleveland.
Ultimately, even though Gabriel is the starter at the moment, it sure seems like his starting spot is far from secure. So, in a scenario where neither rookie quarterback grabs hold of the reins and performs well before Watson returns to practice, we could see Watson get the next crack at starting in Cleveland.
I’m all for it.
Lets go complete dumpster fire!
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Ultimately, even though Gabriel is the starter at the moment, it sure seems like his starting spot is far from secure. So, in a scenario where neither rookie quarterback grabs hold of the reins and performs well before Watson returns to practice, we could see Watson get the next crack at starting in Cleveland.
Ultimately, even though Gabriel is the starter at the moment, it sure seems like his starting spot is far from secure. So, in a scenario where neither rookie quarterback grabs hold of the reins and performs well before Watson returns to practice, we could see Watson get the next crack at starting in Cleveland.
I don't think so, it's now become apparent Gabriel is Kevin's guy and Shedeur is Berry/Haslam's pick. Flacco was traded to ensure Sheduer would see the field this season. Gabriel has been a disaster, all those first team reps were wasted, the kid can't read the field, can't (or doesn't) throw downfield and panics under pressure just like his predraft PFF scouting report. Shedeur may actually save Stefanski's coaching job ironically.
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Ultimately, even though Gabriel is the starter at the moment, it sure seems like his starting spot is far from secure. So, in a scenario where neither rookie quarterback grabs hold of the reins and performs well before Watson returns to practice, we could see Watson get the next crack at starting in Cleveland.
I don't think so, it's now become apparent Gabriel is Kevin's guy and Shedeur is Berry/Haslam's pick. Flacco was traded to ensure Sheduer would see the field this season. Gabriel has been a disaster, all those first team reps were wasted, the kid can't read the field, can't (or doesn't) throw downfield and panics under pressure just like his predraft PFF scouting report. Shedeur may actually save Stefanski's coaching job ironically.
I don't think so, it's now become apparent Gabriel is Kevin's guy and Shedeur is Berry/Haslam's pick. Flacco was traded to ensure Sheduer would see the field this season. Gabriel has been a disaster, all those first team reps were wasted, the kid can't read the field, can't (or doesn't) throw downfield and panics under pressure just like his predraft PFF scouting report. Shedeur may actually save Stefanski's coaching job ironically.
Stefanski is doing Shedeur a favor by not “showcasing” him. There is nothing to see by putting him out here throwing to WRs that get no separation and aren’t consistent and the situation at LT. Sheduers Backyard ball antics will be disastrous too.
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I don't think so, it's now become apparent Gabriel is Kevin's guy and Shedeur is Berry/Haslam's pick. Flacco was traded to ensure Sheduer would see the field this season. Gabriel has been a disaster, all those first team reps were wasted, the kid can't read the field, can't (or doesn't) throw downfield and panics under pressure just like his predraft PFF scouting report. Shedeur may actually save Stefanski's coaching job ironically.
Stefanski is doing Shedeur a favor by not “showcasing” him. There is nothing to see by putting him out here throwing to WRs that get no separation and aren’t consistent and the situation at LT. Sheduers Backyard ball antics will be disastrous too.
Stefanski is doing Shedeur a favor by not “showcasing” him. There is nothing to see by putting him out here throwing to WRs that get no separation and aren’t consistent and the situation at LT. Sheduers Backyard ball antics will be disastrous too.
We'll see soon enough how the most pressured QB in FBS will do in this system.
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Jesus, that article sucked.
"Lamar Jackson clone"
.... can't eye roll harder.
MD, that isn't a knock on you. Only the content creator.
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I don't think so, it's now become apparent Gabriel is Kevin's guy and Shedeur is Berry/Haslam's pick. Flacco was traded to ensure Sheduer would see the field this season. Gabriel has been a disaster, all those first team reps were wasted, the kid can't read the field, can't (or doesn't) throw downfield and panics under pressure just like his predraft PFF scouting report. Shedeur may actually save Stefanski's coaching job ironically.
Stefanski is doing Shedeur a favor by not “showcasing” him. There is nothing to see by putting him out here throwing to WRs that get no separation and aren’t consistent and the situation at LT. Sheduers Backyard ball antics will be disastrous too.
Stefanski is doing Shedeur a favor by not “showcasing” him. There is nothing to see by putting him out here throwing to WRs that get no separation and aren’t consistent and the situation at LT. Sheduers Backyard ball antics will be disastrous too.
I think you're selling short just how bad the current OL situation is.
Not just LT, all four bodies that have starting or seen snaps between LT and RT have rated between 7th worst, and THE worst, at their positions. Conklin is performing average at best. Most times, he's below average.
Center... Wypler is playing like one of the worst in the league.
60% of your offensive line isn't just average, they're quite literally the collection of the worst talent in the NFL at their position group(s)
The OL is a company, a unit, a singular entity comprised of 5 seprate parts combined into one machine.
Can anyone think of a single enterprise that runs well where 60% of the work force is dysfunctional?
For those who remember my warnings about that 2022 defense. The IDL fielded a trio of Taven Bryan, Jordan Elliot and Tommy Togaiai that featured 2 bottom 5 graded players and 1 bottom 10.
This is no different. The OL has been under-addressed for 8 seasons now. And the lone 1st round pick in 2020, Jed Wills, is damn near out of the league.
No infusuon of young talent, while the rest of the OL got older and more injured.
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Stefanski is doing Shedeur a favor by not “showcasing” him. There is nothing to see by putting him out here throwing to WRs that get no separation and aren’t consistent and the situation at LT. Sheduers Backyard ball antics will be disastrous too.
I think you're selling short just how bad the current OL situation is.
Not just LT, all four bodies that have starting or seen snaps between LT and RT have rated between 7th worst, and THE worst, at their positions. Conklin is performing average at best. Most times, he's below average.
Center... Wypler is playing like one of the worst in the league.
60% of your offensive line isn't just average, they're quite literally the collection of the worst talent in the NFL at their position group(s)
The OL is a company, a unit, a singular entity comprised of 5 seprate parts combined into one machine.
Can anyone think of a single enterprise that runs well where 60% of the work force is dysfunctional?
For those who remember my warnings about that 2022 defense. The IDL fielded a trio of Taven Bryan, Jordan Elliot and Tommy Togaiai that featured 2 bottom 5 graded players and 1 bottom 10.
This is no different. The OL has been under-addressed for 8 seasons now. And the lone 1st round pick in 2020, Jed Wills, is damn near out of the league.
No infusuon of young talent, while the rest of the OL got older and more injured.
all four bodies that have starting or seen snaps between LT and RT have rated between 7th worst, and THE worst, at their positions. Conklin is performing average at best. Most times, he's below average.
Center... Wypler is playing like one of the worst in the league.
60% of your offensive line isn't just average, they're quite literally the collection of the worst talent in the NFL at their position group(s)
Yup. This is what we see when we watch the games.
Thinking about the chaos that our pass protection has been...would Sanders actually be the better choice to play? He's kind of used to that stuff. [ doesn't matter. Gabriel is the draft pick that will get the extended look. ]
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I think our OL should all be teachers in a cooking school since the have a lot of experience as a collective sieve. ?
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Stefanski is doing Shedeur a favor by not “showcasing” him. There is nothing to see by putting him out here throwing to WRs that get no separation and aren’t consistent and the situation at LT. Sheduers Backyard ball antics will be disastrous too.
I think you're selling short just how bad the current OL situation is.
Not just LT, all four bodies that have starting or seen snaps between LT and RT have rated between 7th worst, and THE worst, at their positions. Conklin is performing average at best. Most times, he's below average.
Center... Wypler is playing like one of the worst in the league.
60% of your offensive line isn't just average, they're quite literally the collection of the worst talent in the NFL at their position group(s)
The OL is a company, a unit, a singular entity comprised of 5 seprate parts combined into one machine.
Can anyone think of a single enterprise that runs well where 60% of the work force is dysfunctional?
For those who remember my warnings about that 2022 defense. The IDL fielded a trio of Taven Bryan, Jordan Elliot and Tommy Togaiai that featured 2 bottom 5 graded players and 1 bottom 10.
This is no different. The OL has been under-addressed for 8 seasons now. And the lone 1st round pick in 2020, Jed Wills, is damn near out of the league.
No infusuon of young talent, while the rest of the OL got older and more injured.
Center... Wypler is playing like one of the worst in the league.
Wait... did I miss something? Has Pocic been injured and not playing?
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Stefanski is doing Shedeur a favor by not “showcasing” him. There is nothing to see by putting him out here throwing to WRs that get no separation and aren’t consistent and the situation at LT. Sheduers Backyard ball antics will be disastrous too.
I think you're selling short just how bad the current OL situation is.
Not just LT, all four bodies that have starting or seen snaps between LT and RT have rated between 7th worst, and THE worst, at their positions. Conklin is performing average at best. Most times, he's below average.
Center... Wypler is playing like one of the worst in the league.
60% of your offensive line isn't just average, they're quite literally the collection of the worst talent in the NFL at their position group(s)
The OL is a company, a unit, a singular entity comprised of 5 seprate parts combined into one machine.
Can anyone think of a single enterprise that runs well where 60% of the work force is dysfunctional?
For those who remember my warnings about that 2022 defense. The IDL fielded a trio of Taven Bryan, Jordan Elliot and Tommy Togaiai that featured 2 bottom 5 graded players and 1 bottom 10.
This is no different. The OL has been under-addressed for 8 seasons now. And the lone 1st round pick in 2020, Jed Wills, is damn near out of the league.
No infusuon of young talent, while the rest of the OL got older and more injured.
I think you're selling short just how bad the current OL situation is.
Not just LT, all four bodies that have starting or seen snaps between LT and RT have rated between 7th worst, and THE worst, at their positions. Conklin is performing average at best. Most times, he's below average.
Center... Wypler is playing like one of the worst in the league.
60% of your offensive line isn't just average, they're quite literally the collection of the worst talent in the NFL at their position group(s)
The OL is a company, a unit, a singular entity comprised of 5 seprate parts combined into one machine.
Can anyone think of a single enterprise that runs well where 60% of the work force is dysfunctional?
For those who remember my warnings about that 2022 defense. The IDL fielded a trio of Taven Bryan, Jordan Elliot and Tommy Togaiai that featured 2 bottom 5 graded players and 1 bottom 10.
This is no different. The OL has been under-addressed for 8 seasons now. And the lone 1st round pick in 2020, Jed Wills, is damn near out of the league.
No infusuon of young talent, while the rest of the OL got older and more injured.
I feel bad for the offensive line aside from the LT (whomever it is) and the RT when Jack ain’t nursing a hangnail. That’s a talent issue.
I’ll say it until I scream if you can’t stretch the field your offense ain’t gonna work. We are laughing stock here. So with 8 man boxes and safeties poking their heads in the run game - because we can’t throw a pass over 10 yards. I can see why guard to guard isn’t playing well. It is a trickle down effect. Now the tackle situation agree 100% bad feet no functional strength and lack of discipline will not work at this level.
The lack of addressing it in prior drafts - agree there too.
i believe Bitonio on one leg, Pocic and a Pro Bowler like Tretter could be better with better outside support, a better passer, better playcalling etc.
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all four bodies that have starting or seen snaps between LT and RT have rated between 7th worst, and THE worst, at their positions. Conklin is performing average at best. Most times, he's below average.
Center... Wypler is playing like one of the worst in the league.
60% of your offensive line isn't just average, they're quite literally the collection of the worst talent in the NFL at their position group(s)
Yup. This is what we see when we watch the games.
Thinking about the chaos that our pass protection has been...would Sanders actually be the better choice to play? He's kind of used to that stuff. [ doesn't matter. Gabriel is the draft pick that will get the extended look. ]
Yup. This is what we see when we watch the games.
Thinking about the chaos that our pass protection has been...would Sanders actually be the better choice to play? He's kind of used to that stuff. [ doesn't matter. Gabriel is the draft pick that will get the extended look. ]
Maybe I had too many at 10am last Sunday but I thought Gabriel had time especially the first half. Looked like alot of patting the ball waiting for smurfs to get open
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Wait... did I miss something? Has Pocic been injured and not playing?
No. Pocic played the entire game vrs NE while Wypler didn't play per cut and paste provided below. FWIW, in the limited action I've seen from Wypler this year - I've been impressed (almost all of it in the pre-season though). 2 weeks ago vrs the Dolphins - the commentator said Wypler was the guy that got flagged for holding (per the # given by the official); but he wasn't even in the game.
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Stefanski is doing Shedeur a favor by not “showcasing” him. There is nothing to see by putting him out here throwing to WRs that get no separation and aren’t consistent and the situation at LT. Sheduers Backyard ball antics will be disastrous too.
I think you're selling short just how bad the current OL situation is.
Not just LT, all four bodies that have starting or seen snaps between LT and RT have rated between 7th worst, and THE worst, at their positions. Conklin is performing average at best. Most times, he's below average.
Center... Wypler is playing like one of the worst in the league.
60% of your offensive line isn't just average, they're quite literally the collection of the worst talent in the NFL at their position group(s)
The OL is a company, a unit, a singular entity comprised of 5 seprate parts combined into one machine.
Can anyone think of a single enterprise that runs well where 60% of the work force is dysfunctional?
For those who remember my warnings about that 2022 defense. The IDL fielded a trio of Taven Bryan, Jordan Elliot and Tommy Togaiai that featured 2 bottom 5 graded players and 1 bottom 10.
This is no different. The OL has been under-addressed for 8 seasons now. And the lone 1st round pick in 2020, Jed Wills, is damn near out of the league.
No infusuon of young talent, while the rest of the OL got older and more injured.
I think you're selling short just how bad the current OL situation is.
Not just LT, all four bodies that have starting or seen snaps between LT and RT have rated between 7th worst, and THE worst, at their positions. Conklin is performing average at best. Most times, he's below average.
Center... Wypler is playing like one of the worst in the league.
60% of your offensive line isn't just average, they're quite literally the collection of the worst talent in the NFL at their position group(s)
The OL is a company, a unit, a singular entity comprised of 5 seprate parts combined into one machine.
Can anyone think of a single enterprise that runs well where 60% of the work force is dysfunctional?
For those who remember my warnings about that 2022 defense. The IDL fielded a trio of Taven Bryan, Jordan Elliot and Tommy Togaiai that featured 2 bottom 5 graded players and 1 bottom 10.
This is no different. The OL has been under-addressed for 8 seasons now. And the lone 1st round pick in 2020, Jed Wills, is damn near out of the league.
No infusuon of young talent, while the rest of the OL got older and more injured.
There weren't that many pressures on Dillon in the last game go check every film review this week. Dillon panicked several times unnecessarily the most egregious being the safety, there was an easy play in a clean pocket if he'd gone through his progressions. Shedeur made that play easily in the preseason. The OL is serviceable with well designed plays and decent QB play, unfortunately we have neither. Kevin thinks his 2020 OL is still playing on Sundays and has failed to adjust his scheme to the present personnel.
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I think you're selling short just how bad the current OL situation is.
Not just LT, all four bodies that have starting or seen snaps between LT and RT have rated between 7th worst, and THE worst, at their positions. Conklin is performing average at best. Most times, he's below average.
Center... Wypler is playing like one of the worst in the league.
60% of your offensive line isn't just average, they're quite literally the collection of the worst talent in the NFL at their position group(s)
The OL is a company, a unit, a singular entity comprised of 5 seprate parts combined into one machine.
Can anyone think of a single enterprise that runs well where 60% of the work force is dysfunctional?
For those who remember my warnings about that 2022 defense. The IDL fielded a trio of Taven Bryan, Jordan Elliot and Tommy Togaiai that featured 2 bottom 5 graded players and 1 bottom 10.
This is no different. The OL has been under-addressed for 8 seasons now. And the lone 1st round pick in 2020, Jed Wills, is damn near out of the league.
No infusuon of young talent, while the rest of the OL got older and more injured.
There weren't that many pressures on Dillon in the last game go check every film review this week. Dillon panicked several times unnecessarily the most egregious being the safety, there was an easy play in a clean pocket if he'd gone through his progressions. Shedeur made that play easily in the preseason. The OL is serviceable with well designed plays and decent QB play, unfortunately we have neither. Kevin thinks his 2020 OL is still playing on Sundays and has failed to adjust his scheme to the present personnel.
There weren't that many pressures on Dillon in the last game go check every film review this week. Dillon panicked several times unnecessarily the most egregious being the safety, there was an easy play in a clean pocket if he'd gone through his progressions. Shedeur made that play easily in the preseason. The OL is serviceable with well designed plays and decent QB play, unfortunately we have neither. Kevin thinks his 2020 OL is still playing on Sundays and has failed to adjust his scheme to the present personnel.
Gabriel was pressured on something close to 40% his dropbacks.
This OL is not even close to "serviceable". There is no "scheme" i am aware of which makes aged bad OL play across multiple guys serviceable. When 3-4 guys regularly cannot win their 1:1 you got trouble
No, none of this is to prop up Gabriel. There is plenty of issues with his play too.
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I think you're selling short just how bad the current OL situation is.
Not just LT, all four bodies that have starting or seen snaps between LT and RT have rated between 7th worst, and THE worst, at their positions. Conklin is performing average at best. Most times, he's below average.
Center... Wypler is playing like one of the worst in the league.
60% of your offensive line isn't just average, they're quite literally the collection of the worst talent in the NFL at their position group(s)
The OL is a company, a unit, a singular entity comprised of 5 seprate parts combined into one machine.
Can anyone think of a single enterprise that runs well where 60% of the work force is dysfunctional?
For those who remember my warnings about that 2022 defense. The IDL fielded a trio of Taven Bryan, Jordan Elliot and Tommy Togaiai that featured 2 bottom 5 graded players and 1 bottom 10.
This is no different. The OL has been under-addressed for 8 seasons now. And the lone 1st round pick in 2020, Jed Wills, is damn near out of the league.
No infusuon of young talent, while the rest of the OL got older and more injured.
I feel bad for the offensive line aside from the LT (whomever it is) and the RT when Jack ain’t nursing a hangnail. That’s a talent issue.
I’ll say it until I scream if you can’t stretch the field your offense ain’t gonna work. We are laughing stock here. So with 8 man boxes and safeties poking their heads in the run game - because we can’t throw a pass over 10 yards. I can see why guard to guard isn’t playing well. It is a trickle down effect. Now the tackle situation agree 100% bad feet no functional strength and lack of discipline will not work at this level.
The lack of addressing it in prior drafts - agree there too.
i believe Bitonio on one leg, Pocic and a Pro Bowler like Tretter could be better with better outside support, a better passer, better playcalling etc.
I feel bad for the offensive line aside from the LT (whomever it is) and the RT when Jack ain’t nursing a hangnail. That’s a talent issue.
I’ll say it until I scream if you can’t stretch the field your offense ain’t gonna work. We are laughing stock here. So with 8 man boxes and safeties poking their heads in the run game - because we can’t throw a pass over 10 yards. I can see why guard to guard isn’t playing well. It is a trickle down effect. Now the tackle situation agree 100% bad feet no functional strength and lack of discipline will not work at this level.
The lack of addressing it in prior drafts - agree there too.
i believe Bitonio on one leg, Pocic and a Pro Bowler like Tretter could be better with better outside support, a better passer, better playcalling etc.
I think you, and so many fans, would be shocked at the amount of 2 high the Browns offense has faced, starting as far back as week 1. When the Oline is as bad as we see, DCs are employing a more patient strategy by inviting us to run more and not surrendering numbers on the backend.
Weeks 1 & 2, we were averaging 2.3 ypc on 1st down. Since QJ has taken over, we've gone up to just under 3ypc. But that's still 25% short of most offenses target goal of 1st down yardage. So we're not as efficient as we need to be running the ball against any defense with a pulse, facing both single and 2h coverages.
This was one of the bigger adjustments by the Pats after the first browns touchdown, and once we couldn't take advantage of a defense being overly aggressive, they beat us patiently.
I'll explain this more in detail with my upcoming video.
Glad to see you were on board with that 2022 Dline being trash though. Took us a couple years, but we finally got you there buddy.
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I feel bad for the offensive line aside from the LT (whomever it is) and the RT when Jack ain’t nursing a hangnail. That’s a talent issue.
I’ll say it until I scream if you can’t stretch the field your offense ain’t gonna work. We are laughing stock here. So with 8 man boxes and safeties poking their heads in the run game - because we can’t throw a pass over 10 yards. I can see why guard to guard isn’t playing well. It is a trickle down effect. Now the tackle situation agree 100% bad feet no functional strength and lack of discipline will not work at this level.
The lack of addressing it in prior drafts - agree there too.
i believe Bitonio on one leg, Pocic and a Pro Bowler like Tretter could be better with better outside support, a better passer, better playcalling etc.
I think you, and so many fans, would be shocked at the amount of 2 high the Browns offense has faced, starting as far back as week 1. When the Oline is as bad as we see, DCs are employing a more patient strategy by inviting us to run more and not surrendering numbers on the backend.
Weeks 1 & 2, we were averaging 2.3 ypc on 1st down. Since QJ has taken over, we've gone up to just under 3ypc. But that's still 25% short of most offenses target goal of 1st down yardage. So we're not as efficient as we need to be running the ball against any defense with a pulse, facing both single and 2h coverages.
This was one of the bigger adjustments by the Pats after the first browns touchdown, and once we couldn't take advantage of a defense being overly aggressive, they beat us patiently.
I'll explain this more in detail with my upcoming video.
Glad to see you were on board with that 2022 Dline being trash though. Took us a couple years, but we finally got you there buddy.
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I think you, and so many fans, would be shocked at the amount of 2 high the Browns offense has faced, starting as far back as week 1. When the Oline is as bad as we see, DCs are employing a more patient strategy by inviting us to run more and not surrendering numbers on the backend.
Weeks 1 & 2, we were averaging 2.3 ypc on 1st down. Since QJ has taken over, we've gone up to just under 3ypc. But that's still 25% short of most offenses target goal of 1st down yardage. So we're not as efficient as we need to be running the ball against any defense with a pulse, facing both single and 2h coverages.
This was one of the bigger adjustments by the Pats after the first browns touchdown, and once we couldn't take advantage of a defense being overly aggressive, they beat us patiently.
I'll explain this more in detail with my upcoming video.
Glad to see you were on board with that 2022 Dline being trash though. Took us a couple years, but we finally got you there buddy.
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No, My comment was about the offensive tackles.
If I recall correctly, I didn’t make many excuses for Joe Woods and his incompetence.
And You can cherry pick any videos you want
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