It Looks Like Colt McCoy in 2010
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suns said:
Colt mccoy has a great arm, I would love to have him.If you noticed - QBs that have his type of size, strength and athleticism are the ones that extend plays. Guys that extend plays are Pittsburgh's Lucky 7, McNabb, Romo, Favre, Flacco, Cutler, Rodgers and more. Guys from previous years like this include: John Elway, Steve Young, Roger Staubach, Terry Bradshaw, Steve McNair, Warren Moon and Joe Montana.
Guys without the size that can/could extend plays: Drew Brees, Brian Sipe, Jeff Garcia, Joe Theisman and Fran Tarkenton.
There's a few stationary Marinos with good pocket presence and quick triggers to avoid sacks like: Brady, Manning and Warner. That said, those don't seem to be the rule as much as the exception to it.
Maybe new pre-draft assessment with find a way to judge vision at the speed of the game. That seems to be a forgotten variable everytime I hear another Kyle Boller aces his workout.
- Tom F.
If you noticed - QBs that have his type of size, strength and athleticism are the ones that extend plays.
And if you haven't noticed, superstar QBs from the Big 12 rarely even make NFL rosters.
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@shepwrite said:
For Anderson to stay here, he's gonna have to be great. It's just that simple. The Browns won't pay his bonus unless he's great he won't be tradeable unless he's great. He'll just become a third tier free agent.Great in our eyes, or great in the coaching staff's eyes? We already know that they consider 3 picks in 2 quarters somehow worthy of starting and 'positive'.
We're going to be stuck with this guy. That's my gut. We'll probably get one of the QBs from next years draft and do exactly the same thing to him that has been done to Quinn.
Unless, by some miracle of God, Mangini is fired and Schottenheimer, Gruden, or Cowher come in to take over this mess.
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And if you haven't noticed, superstar QBs from the Big 12 rarely even make NFL rosters.
That's true Loverboy! They don't play any defense in that conference outside of Texas and Oklahoma so let's see how he does in Bowl Games. He had a late scoring drive to beat Ohio State so maybe he has more to offer than others in his conference at the QB position. We shall see.
Congrats on your hometown hero getting his starting job back.
- Tom F.
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QB is a big decision. Every regime puts their stamp on one and hopes. For Clark/Palmer it was Couch. Clark/Davis it was Couch. Davis/Garcia it was Garcia. Savage/Crennel it was Anderson.
Mankok will put a stamp on a QB. When and how is the question.
QB is a big decision. Every regime puts their stamp on one and hopes. For Clark/Palmer it was Couch. Clark/Davis it was Couch. Davis/Garcia it was Garcia. Savage/Crennel it was Anderson.
Mankok will put a stamp on a QB. When and how is the question.
He already did. He stamped on Quinn's nuts.
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@shepwrite said:
If you wanna be in the club, at least get real: Our two quarterbacks have sucked with few exceptions for about two years (Quinn against Denver, Anderson against the Giants).Quinn losing to Denver is not in the same universe as Anderson blowing out the undefeated Super Bowl champs on Monday Night Football.
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@shepwrite said:
If you wanna be in the club, at least get real: Our two quarterbacks have sucked with few exceptions for about two years (Quinn against Denver, Anderson against the Giants).Quinn losing to Denver is not in the same universe as Anderson blowing out the undefeated Super Bowl champs on Monday Night Football.
Quinn losing to Denver is not in the same universe as Anderson blowing out the undefeated Super Bowl champs on Monday Night Football.
Stop sucking so much cock, faggot.
He merely stated...... those are the respective best performances we've seen by browns QB's since 08 started.
But you already knew that, you just really love cock.
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@shepwrite said:
For the record, Bradford had 50/8 last year and some of the sickest lifetime stats on earth.Jason White did that too.
And Bradford's backup came in last week and threw 6 TDs in a game.
You gotta be careful to put these things in context shep. You saw how Brady Quinn turned out didn't you?
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We have zero business drafting a QB. Unless someone like Holmgren or Gruden, who have a history of developing QBs, take over the team, we need to draft the best playmaker on the board regardless of position.
We need O and D playmakers everywhere. I would not draft QB or WR. Period.
We need to make one side of the ball good. We need to impose our will in one area at the very least.
Shit, QB on this team. LOL. He'll no. Get what you can for Quinn and ride DA into the next QB, which you pick maybe in 2011. Teams compete without a franchise QB all the time. Warner to the Cards to a SB with 9-7 record. Rich Gannon, Brad Johnson, Vinny Testerverde, Jeff Garcia - it can be done.
But for now forget about the QB position.
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Quinn losing to Denver is not in the same universe as Anderson blowing out the undefeated Super Bowl champs on Monday Night Football.
Stop sucking so much cock, faggot.
He merely stated...... those are the respective best performances we've seen by browns QB's since 08 started.
But you already knew that, you just really love cock.
AdaM said:
He merely stated...... those are the respective best performances we've seen by browns QB's since 08 started.Anderson also won @ JAX, pretty damn good game actually. 250 pass yds 2 TDs.
I'd rank Quinnies loss to Denver right behind Anderson's loss at home to the Ravens.
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If a couple underclassmen come out theres potentially 5 to 6 first round quarterbacks in this years draft. In my opinion I'm just not sold on Bradford or McCoy. Big 12 teams don't play defense at all. Take last year, 3 out of the top 5 finalists for the Heisman were QB's from the Big 12. Yes they put up great numbers during their regular season, but look what happened when they actually played a good defense... Gators>Sooners.... Ole Miss destroyed Texas Tech... and lets face it Texas escaped a game with a win that Ohio State should have won. Im not saying Bradford or McCoy wont be good pros at the next level. I just think theres so many more pressing needs on this team than to draft a QB who hasn't faced good defenses on a constant level in college to come into Cleveland and go up against two top 5 defenses twice a year.
Bradford- underclassman
Clausen- underclassman
Locker- underclassman
McCoy- senior
Tebow- senior
Pike- senior
Snead- underclassman
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I think that if a franchise qb is there we have to take him unless someone's light comes on soon. If you build a 500 team it can become very difficult to get that franchise qb. I believe we get the qb first. I would hire someone like Walsh to evaluate this year's quarterbacks only for the browns.
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@shepwrite said:
Mikey, have you watched him throw?I haven't heard if he's smart or not yet. That does matter.
How is his build?
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Ah yes, Shep back in the saddle again with his fav: talkin' QB's.
Sweet. It's going to be interesting to see where the Browns stand in the QB dept. by the end of the season.
I may start lobbying for Jimmy Clauson. His numbers at ND are looking gooooooood this year. None of these arm strength concerns.
Trade down and get Clauson!!
So, for the pro-Clauson crowd:
And for the Lums, D&S's, and Z's:
Just figured I'd get it out of the way.
He's from California, so with those Speedos, his official name may have to be "Sunshine".
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I'm sorry Flugs, this McCoy stuff just seems like a knee-jerk reaction to us sucking balls right now. Does anyone think another green QB with a HUGE guaranteed salary is really going to turn this thing around?
I'm still hoping either DA or Quinn shows some improvement in this YOUNG season, so we can pick another piece (LB, Safety, OL, RB, DE) near the top. And if we are going to draft another QB, can we please wait until the later rounds? This way, if/when he busts, it won't cripple us for the next 5 years.
Call me a Retard, but I think Zombo's rationale is getting to me. I have Early-2007 DA Fever!
I'm sorry Flugs, this McCoy stuff just seems like a knee-jerk reaction to us sucking balls right now. Does anyone think another green QB with a HUGE guaranteed salary is really going to turn this thing around?
I'm still hoping either DA or Quinn shows some improvement in this YOUNG season, so we can pick another piece (LB, Safety, OL, RB, DE) near the top. And if we are going to draft another QB, can we please wait until the later rounds? This way, if/when he busts, it won't cripple us for the next 5 years.
Call me a Retard, but I think Zombo's rationale is getting to me. I have Early-2007 DA Fever!
that's bullshit...our drafting the last 10 years has cripled us...not one miss....Got to get the QB...building the right way! Everything else is DUMB!
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I'm begining to believe that Cleveland Browns fans are the fkn dumbest around! You aren't gonna win superbowls without a franchise QB....Fk trent dilfer arguement...1 time in 50! I too wanted to start the Franchise around ricky williams...but we are past that....We Already have a O-line and a Pro-bowl Left Tackle...Time to get the Pro-bowl QB! Rb's can be found later Rd's 2~4....Rt's Round 2~7, QB's....First round.....unless you hit the lottery on some fool!
P.S. To Browns fans....This is the seed of Qb controversies in Cleveland...I see it starting already. start throwing out "he's a system guy...blah blah blah!
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If we cant run the ball then how do we expect to be able to pass the ball?
You don't have to sell me Mr T. I'm just saying teams that have the pick of the litter usually go Qb because they know they just won't FIND a wonderful QB growing on trees out there. It's not the way it works. Miami can RUN the ball but their gimmicks that caught everyone by surprise in 2008 - aren't working now that teams are dictating the need to beat them with their QB. We certainly haven't found this wonderful QB since Kosar left. That would be the last time we were consistent with winning in back to back seasons right?
Greg Pruitt is the guy that sold me on the great tradition of the Cleveland Browns my dad was always talking about. He could score from anywhere on the field, which is wonderful in those close games and it helps open up the passing game.
I think RB has shown to be a position where you can find absolute gems after round 1 year after year after year. Ernest Byner ring a bell?
We obviously need more x-factors on both sides of the ball. If Taylor Mays came out in 2009, he would have been my favorite selection. He's still gonna be ideal BUT we have some serious needs for playmnakers all over the offense. I look at every upcoming game and ask myself the same question - WHO is going to be our go-to weapon. If I say Cribbs in the return game - that means teams gotta be scoring on us in order to see him so that's a conflict of interest.
- Tom F. (If your buddy Flugel really knew what we needed - he wouldn't be holding a Dorito's Bag on Sundays)
You don't have to sell me Mr T. I'm just saying teams that have the pick of the litter usually go Qb because they know they just won't FIND a wonderful QB growing on trees out there. It's not the way it works. Miami can RUN the ball but their gimmicks that caught everyone by surprise in 2008 - aren't working now that teams are dictating the need to beat them with their QB. We certainly haven't found this wonderful QB since Kosar left. That would be the last time we were consistent with winning in back to back seasons right?
Greg Pruitt is the guy that sold me on the great tradition of the Cleveland Browns my dad was always talking about. He could score from anywhere on the field, which is wonderful in those close games and it helps open up the passing game.
I think RB has shown to be a position where you can find absolute gems after round 1 year after year after year. Ernest Byner ring a bell?
We obviously need more x-factors on both sides of the ball. If Taylor Mays came out in 2009, he would have been my favorite selection. He's still gonna be ideal BUT we have some serious needs for playmnakers all over the offense. I look at every upcoming game and ask myself the same question - WHO is going to be our go-to weapon. If I say Cribbs in the return game - that means teams gotta be scoring on us in order to see him so that's a conflict of interest.
- Tom F. (If your buddy Flugel really knew what we needed - he wouldn't be holding a Dorito's Bag on Sundays)
You my friend are with whom I agree!
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@shepwrite said:
Forget the numbers -- except that nobody else but Bradford is putting them up -- and watch. Bradford's accuracy is redonkulous. He never throws a wobbler. He's a very natural passer. Sometimes his accuracy throws announcers into fits trying to find adjectives and I feel the same way. And we're not talking about bad defenses, because the coolest ones are when the receiver is bracketed.I like Pike, too... but I need to watch him again. Against Rutgers it seemed like he had an odd windup, like Kerry Collins or Leftwich. Maybe I'm wrong.
Snead looks the part -- kind of Cutler-esque -- but man he was awful against South Carolina. Just brutal.
If Bradford comes back and has another crazy year, he's the consensus #1, I bet. Crazy numbers in a major conference and he's 6'4" and 225 and throws a great ball... I don't see how that ends up lower than #5.
McCoy is my pick, Bradford very close second! Snead.....Decision making ? I truly wish Locher was coming out next year, he'd be my #1 choice. As for Jimmy Clauson....all the hype...for what? not impressed!
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