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  • All you guys beating the table for offensive line….here you go.

    Bring back the guards add a vet offensive tackle and let’s roll with this.

    I hate picking at #4. I don’t see an offensive lineman or WR I want at 4.  I can stomach someone at 7 with some ammo for next year too.
     

    With the simulation Mendoza was available and the Jets traded up and we grabbed their 7th, 47th and second next year.

    I’m a fan of Antonio Williams out of Clemson and I’d like to take another swing at QB (late) Mensah if he comes out or Taylen Green out of Arkansas who is raw but has an arm and is super athletic. 
     

    I like Fisher out of Indiana.  At the very least he’s a special teams standout.  Sutton is an underachiever twitchy edge 

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  • @texasag1969 said:

    Well oh yeah. How about me drafting the SEC DPOTY Cashius Howell in the 3rd round no less??

    He might also have the best first name in the draft. Who's spelling it wrong us or him?

    I could almost hear him getting announced for a boxing title in Vegas "The King of Sting - Cashius "Play" Howell-Anyonebeatem"

    @flugel said:

    He might also have the best first name in the draft. Who's spelling it wrong us or him?

    I could almost hear him getting announced for a boxing title in Vegas "The King of Sting - Cashius "Play" Howell-Anyonebeatem"

    And I don't compare him with Garrett. More the size speed and position of standup OLB Von Miller coming out of college.

  • @flugel said:

    He might also have the best first name in the draft. Who's spelling it wrong us or him?

    I could almost hear him getting announced for a boxing title in Vegas "The King of Sting - Cashius "Play" Howell-Anyonebeatem"

    And I don't compare him with Garrett. More the size speed and position of standup OLB Von Miller coming out of college.

    @texasag1969 said:

    And I don't compare him with Garrett. More the size speed and position of standup OLB Von Miller coming out of college.

    You've seen more of him than any of us so I believe you. Von Miller was a damn good player in the NFL before injuries and wear and tear impacted him.  Wasn't he a SB MVP? 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    And I don't compare him with Garrett. More the size speed and position of standup OLB Von Miller coming out of college.

    You've seen more of him than any of us so I believe you. Von Miller was a damn good player in the NFL before injuries and wear and tear impacted him.  Wasn't he a SB MVP? 

    @flugel said:

    You've seen more of him than any of us so I believe you. Von Miller was a damn good player in the NFL before injuries and wear and tear impacted him.  Wasn't he a SB MVP? 

    Yep and future HOFer and chicken rancher with real chickens ?, not chicks?.   

  • First, Dallas gave me both their first-round picks.

    team-icon CLE
    Pick 4
     
    DAL team-icon
    Pick 16
    Pick 28
    2027 DAL 4th
     
    Then everyone else left me Rod and Derrick Moore from UM and Malik Muhammad from UT in the 6th and 7th rounds.

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  • CLE
    CLECLE
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    4.CLE
    Fernando MendozaQB Indiana
    28.CLE
    Blake MillerOT Clemson
    38.CLE
    Chase BisontisOG Texas A&M
    69.CLE
    Omar Cooper Jr.WR Indiana
    104.CLE
    Brian Parker IIOG Duke
    141.CLE
    Zakee WheatleyS Penn State
    146.CLE
    Devon MarshallCB NC State
    148.CLE
    Zane DurantDT Penn State
    200.CLE
    Eric McAlisterWR TCU
    207.CLE
    Riley MahlmanOT Wisconsin
    238.CLE
    Dalton BrooksS Texas A&M
  • Loaded up on WRs and OLs. Tired of seeing shit out there. 

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    4.
    Carnell Tate WR Ohio State
    28.
    Isaiah World OT Oregon
    42.
    Kayden McDonald DT Ohio State
     
    69.
    Emmanuel Pregnon OG Oregon
    104.
    Tristan Leigh OT Clemson
    141.
    CJ Daniels WR Miami (FL)
    146.
    Trey Zuhn OG Texas A&M
    148.
    Earl Little Jr. S Florida State
    200.
    Kayin Lee CB Auburn
    207.
    Kevin Coleman Jr. WR Missouri
    238.
    Nyckoles Harbor WR South Carolina
    202
  • @dutch-oven said:

    https://www.profootballnetwork.com/mockdraft

    Take a swing!

    4.CLE
    Fernando MendozaQB Indiana
    28.CLE
    Blake MillerOT Clemson
    38.CLE
    Iapani LalouluOC Oregon
    69.CLE
    Emmanuel PregnonOG Oregon
    104.CLE
    Whit WeeksLB LSU
    141.CLE
    Bryce LanceWR North Dakota State
    146.CLE
    Deion BurksWR Oklahoma
    148.CLE
    Tomas RimacOG Virginia Tech
    202.CLE
    Marcus AllenCB North Carolina
    206.CLE
    Gabe JacasEDGE Illinois
    244.CLE
    Daylen EveretteCB Georgia
  • I have a feeling we might be sleeping on how much DTackleis a need. Collin’s absence has really opened my eyes 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I have a feeling we might be sleeping on how much DTackleis a need. Collin’s absence has really opened my eyes 

    ?%Agree Dutch! Without Collins our Defense is NOT the same! 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I have a feeling we might be sleeping on how much DTackleis a need. Collin’s absence has really opened my eyes 

    ?%Agree Dutch! Without Collins our Defense is NOT the same! 

    @brownsnmopar said:

    ?%Agree Dutch! Without Collins our Defense is NOT the same! 

    You can always use good DT's.  If one that is rated BPA when we draft I will never put that down as a bad selection.  That said if all is fairly equal I probably pass.  We have a pretty solid grouping as is and DT is a position where you can usually find adequate back-up in free agency.

    I am usually very solid with the idea of drafting BPA.  That said, I am not in favor of drafting players who are primarily going to be back-up players when you are seeking starters at multiple positions. Basically we are going to hand a job to 1 offensive lineman and 1 receiver. Another offensive lineman might work his way in to a starter position as the season moves on.  Unless something too good to be true happens, I wouldn't look to draft a DT before round 5. I think we have 3 picks in that round.  I could see using one of those picks on a DT.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I have a feeling we might be sleeping on how much DTackleis a need. Collin’s absence has really opened my eyes 

    ?%Agree Dutch! Without Collins our Defense is NOT the same! 

    @brownsnmopar said:

    ?%Agree Dutch! Without Collins our Defense is NOT the same! 

    @ballpeen said:

    You can always use good DT's.  I could see using one of those picks on a DT.

    Which is why in my draft above I took a "gift" of Kayden McDonald DT from OSU at pick 42. I think he's exactly what we need.

  • There's a Texas Tech LBer Jacob Rodriguez that earned the Dick Butkus Award for Best Linebacker; Bednarik Award for Defensive Player of the Year; and Bronko Nagurski Award for Best Defensive Player.  He's a turnover machine - would be ideal working alongside Schwesinger.  And if you look at the 2nd video near the end - McAfee has some fun with J-Rod's prior experience as a QB. Round 3 or round 4? Take a peek...

  • @brownsnmopar said:

    ?%Agree Dutch! Without Collins our Defense is NOT the same! 

    You can always use good DT's.  If one that is rated BPA when we draft I will never put that down as a bad selection.  That said if all is fairly equal I probably pass.  We have a pretty solid grouping as is and DT is a position where you can usually find adequate back-up in free agency.

    I am usually very solid with the idea of drafting BPA.  That said, I am not in favor of drafting players who are primarily going to be back-up players when you are seeking starters at multiple positions. Basically we are going to hand a job to 1 offensive lineman and 1 receiver. Another offensive lineman might work his way in to a starter position as the season moves on.  Unless something too good to be true happens, I wouldn't look to draft a DT before round 5. I think we have 3 picks in that round.  I could see using one of those picks on a DT.

    @ballpeen said:

    You can always use good DT's.  If one that is rated BPA when we draft I will never put that down as a bad selection.  That said if all is fairly equal I probably pass.  We have a pretty solid grouping as is and DT is a position where you can usually find adequate back-up in free agency.

    I am usually very solid with the idea of drafting BPA.  That said, I am not in favor of drafting players who are primarily going to be back-up players when you are seeking starters at multiple positions. Basically we are going to hand a job to 1 offensive lineman and 1 receiver. Another offensive lineman might work his way in to a starter position as the season moves on.  Unless something too good to be true happens, I wouldn't look to draft a DT before round 5. I think we have 3 picks in that round.  I could see using one of those picks on a DT.

    If the first four rounds looked something like this and we went Caleb Downs and then OL, WR, OL, WR.  I’d be okay with that. 
     

    I don’t see an OL that I want within the Top 5 picks.  The top 5 of the draft is the gold jacket zone.  
     

    The far greater need on defense is having some Ward insurance, finding a slot corner and finding someone to compete against Ronnie Hickman.  And These needs are outshadowed by replacing our OL and WR rooms. 
     

    and Collins is coming back? And we have a promising rookie DT and another younger DT that will hopefully benefit from being healthy 

  • Just heard that Utah's LT Caleb Lomu will be entering the NFL Draft @flugel

  • Just heard that Utah's LT Caleb Lomu will be entering the NFL Draft @flugel

    @dutch-oven said:

    Just heard that Utah's LT Caleb Lomu will be entering the NFL Draft @flugel

    That's great news!  Thank you! 

  • @ballpeen said:

    You can always use good DT's.  If one that is rated BPA when we draft I will never put that down as a bad selection.  That said if all is fairly equal I probably pass.  We have a pretty solid grouping as is and DT is a position where you can usually find adequate back-up in free agency.

    I am usually very solid with the idea of drafting BPA.  That said, I am not in favor of drafting players who are primarily going to be back-up players when you are seeking starters at multiple positions. Basically we are going to hand a job to 1 offensive lineman and 1 receiver. Another offensive lineman might work his way in to a starter position as the season moves on.  Unless something too good to be true happens, I wouldn't look to draft a DT before round 5. I think we have 3 picks in that round.  I could see using one of those picks on a DT.

    If the first four rounds looked something like this and we went Caleb Downs and then OL, WR, OL, WR.  I’d be okay with that. 
     

    I don’t see an OL that I want within the Top 5 picks.  The top 5 of the draft is the gold jacket zone.  
     

    The far greater need on defense is having some Ward insurance, finding a slot corner and finding someone to compete against Ronnie Hickman.  And These needs are outshadowed by replacing our OL and WR rooms. 
     

    and Collins is coming back? And we have a promising rookie DT and another younger DT that will hopefully benefit from being healthy 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    If the first four rounds looked something like this and we went Caleb Downs and then OL, WR, OL, WR.  I’d be okay with that. 
     

    I don’t see an OL that I want within the Top 5 picks.  The top 5 of the draft is the gold jacket zone.  
     

    The far greater need on defense is having some Ward insurance, finding a slot corner and finding someone to compete against Ronnie Hickman.  And These needs are outshadowed by replacing our OL and WR rooms. 
     

    and Collins is coming back? And we have a promising rookie DT and another younger DT that will hopefully benefit from being healthy 

    It's safe to say we're showing up to the "all you can eat" buffet with an empty stomach.  There's going to be a lot of eye candy and desserts tempting us to boycott biggest needs or healthier choices. You have a great idea above you presented well.  I know I'm speaking to the choir here; but when we had Joe Thomas here at 27 or 28 years old - did we ever waste time considering top LT prospects?  No; we always seem to have plenty of different needs where at least 1 can match or come very close to the BPA for the draft slot or the next one. 

    Teams that do their homework know how many OTackles are worthy of 1st or 2nd round draft slots.  From what I've read and heard, this year's stock of potential/obvious immediate starters seems like it can be depleted by the end of round 2 at OT.  That said, there are OTs that will be drafted to play OG (like the Browns once did with Joel Bitonio in round 2) - we can probably find some of these guys after round 2.  It's not always the arm length that separates the guards from the tackles - it often the footwork, base and agility that determine how ell they can play with space to their outside.  If that's really good, nobody is gonna worry if a guy's arm length is only 33 or 34 inches.  If it's not good - they'll kick him inside or put him at RT if they think he can handle it.  

  • Another tackle to consider - that I don't think has really been mentioned - is 6'7", 312lb Texas OT Trevor Goosby.

    Started the season slow, but apparently was playing excellent ball by the end of the regular season. He was praised specifically for his play during the Texas A&M game. 

  • Another tackle to consider - that I don't think has really been mentioned - is 6'7", 312lb Texas OT Trevor Goosby.

    Started the season slow, but apparently was playing excellent ball by the end of the regular season. He was praised specifically for his play during the Texas A&M game. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Another tackle to consider - that I don't think has really been mentioned - is 6'7", 312lb Texas OT Trevor Goosby.

    Started the season slow, but apparently was playing excellent ball by the end of the regular season. He was praised specifically for his play during the Texas A&M game. 

    Yeah, I've drafted him on the simulator more than once. ?.  He's started at RT and now that Kelvin Banks was drafted - he had a nice season at LT.  Very good prospect! 

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    If the first four rounds looked something like this and we went Caleb Downs and then OL, WR, OL, WR.  I’d be okay with that. 
     

    I don’t see an OL that I want within the Top 5 picks.  The top 5 of the draft is the gold jacket zone.  
     

    The far greater need on defense is having some Ward insurance, finding a slot corner and finding someone to compete against Ronnie Hickman.  And These needs are outshadowed by replacing our OL and WR rooms. 
     

    and Collins is coming back? And we have a promising rookie DT and another younger DT that will hopefully benefit from being healthy 

    It's safe to say we're showing up to the "all you can eat" buffet with an empty stomach.  There's going to be a lot of eye candy and desserts tempting us to boycott biggest needs or healthier choices. You have a great idea above you presented well.  I know I'm speaking to the choir here; but when we had Joe Thomas here at 27 or 28 years old - did we ever waste time considering top LT prospects?  No; we always seem to have plenty of different needs where at least 1 can match or come very close to the BPA for the draft slot or the next one. 

    Teams that do their homework know how many OTackles are worthy of 1st or 2nd round draft slots.  From what I've read and heard, this year's stock of potential/obvious immediate starters seems like it can be depleted by the end of round 2 at OT.  That said, there are OTs that will be drafted to play OG (like the Browns once did with Joel Bitonio in round 2) - we can probably find some of these guys after round 2.  It's not always the arm length that separates the guards from the tackles - it often the footwork, base and agility that determine how ell they can play with space to their outside.  If that's really good, nobody is gonna worry if a guy's arm length is only 33 or 34 inches.  If it's not good - they'll kick him inside or put him at RT if they think he can handle it.  

    @flugel said:

    It's safe to say we're showing up the the "all you can eat" buffet with an empty stomach.  There's going to be a lot of eye candy and desserts tempting us to boycott biggest needs or healthier choices. You have a great idea above you presented well.  I know I'm speaking to the choir here; but when we had Joe Thomas here at 27 or 28 years old - did we ever waste time considering top LT prospects?  No; we always seem to have plenty of different needs where at least 1 can match or come very close to the BPA for the draft slot or the next one. 

    Teams that do their homework know how many OTackles are worthy of 1st or 2nd round draft slots.  From what I've read and heard, this year's stock of potential/obvious immediate starters seems like it can be depleted by the end of round 2 at OT.  That said, there are OTs that will be drafted to play OG (like the Browns once did with Joel Bitonio in round 2) - we can probably find some of these guys after round 2.  It's not always the arm length that separates the guards from the tackles - it often the footwork, base and agility that determine how ell they can play with space to their outside.  If that's really good, nobody is gonna worry if a guy's arm length is only 33 or 34 inches.  If it's not good - they'll kick him inside or put him at RT if they think he can handle it.  

    Never been to the Sizzler but here goes (it is buffet style I believe).  I imagine you go there for the steak but if you are hungry for a little bit of everything….why order a second steak when you need a potato, salad, bread, green beans, dessert, etc.  

    there is some strong love in here about going 7/8 deep with great talent on the Dline - I understand it is important but when you take inventory of the secondary it is an area that we probably need a Day 2 pick.  I mentioned the concerns above but let’s not forget the good problem brewing we have Delpit who is a playing well but will be free agent after next season. He will be paid well here or somewhere else. 

    And Speaking strictly on the Top 3 pick …are we thinking about Lomu, Fano, The Miami Tackle, or Tate WR?  The consensus (right now on those players)…probably first round not Top 5.  I love Tate but even I have a hard time pulling that trigger at say 2 or 3. 
     

    I’ve said this before…2020 draft we drafted for need at 10 and took the third best tackle - if he worked out we would just be in the position of replacing one tackle.