Currently our 2025 first round pick is....
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Anyone like Jordyn Tyson? I like him more than I like Tate. Wouldn't mind us trading back a few spots to get him.
Anyone like Jordyn Tyson? I like him more than I like Tate. Wouldn't mind us trading back a few spots to get him.
Sure - but I would pick Tate over him - has the injury history, and fumbles after the catch history less size.... if I had to rank em. Tyson is right up there with Tate, I think.
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Anyone like Jordyn Tyson? I like him more than I like Tate. Wouldn't mind us trading back a few spots to get him.
Sure - but I would pick Tate over him - has the injury history, and fumbles after the catch history less size.... if I had to rank em. Tyson is right up there with Tate, I think.
Sure - but I would pick Tate over him - has the injury history, and fumbles after the catch history less size.... if I had to rank em. Tyson is right up there with Tate, I think.
Yeah, I'm reading a lot of good stuff about Tyson without seeing him play to give a strong opinion. Keep in mind, Tate might not have a #1 WR on the other side of formation as good as he had at Ohio State especially if Cleveland drafted him. I think there's more talented WRs in this draft than LTs so I hope the Browns realize they can't afford to blow off LT/OT...
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I think we go WR round 1, and our next two picks OL. Personally, I'm excited at the prospect of having an elite WR. I've watched Tyson plenty, he reminds me of Justin Jefferson.
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Sure - but I would pick Tate over him - has the injury history, and fumbles after the catch history less size.... if I had to rank em. Tyson is right up there with Tate, I think.
Yeah, I'm reading a lot of good stuff about Tyson without seeing him play to give a strong opinion. Keep in mind, Tate might not have a #1 WR on the other side of formation as good as he had at Ohio State especially if Cleveland drafted him. I think there's more talented WRs in this draft than LTs so I hope the Browns realize they can't afford to blow off LT/OT...
Yeah, I'm reading a lot of good stuff about Tyson without seeing him play to give a strong opinion. Keep in mind, Tate might not have a #1 WR on the other side of formation as good as he had at Ohio State especially if Cleveland drafted him. I think there's more talented WRs in this draft that LTs so I hope the Browns realize they can't afford to blow off LT/OT...
Tate was not impressive to me against Miami, but Smith is on another planet. I think taking Tate as our 1st #1 might be a huge mistake from what I saw.
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Yeah, I'm reading a lot of good stuff about Tyson without seeing him play to give a strong opinion. Keep in mind, Tate might not have a #1 WR on the other side of formation as good as he had at Ohio State especially if Cleveland drafted him. I think there's more talented WRs in this draft that LTs so I hope the Browns realize they can't afford to blow off LT/OT...
Tate was not impressive to me against Miami, but Smith is on another planet. I think taking Tate as our 1st #1 might be a huge mistake from what I saw.
Tate was not impressive to me against Miami, but Smith is on another planet. I think taking Tate as our 1st #1 might be a huge mistake from what I saw.
Agreed. He lacks that deep end speed + he's really thin. Physical corners might give him problems in the press. And yeah, Jeremiah Smith looks like he's gonna be great right from the get-go.
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I think we go WR round 1, and our next two picks OL. Personally, I'm excited at the prospect of having an elite WR. I've watched Tyson plenty, he reminds me of Justin Jefferson.
I think we go WR round 1, and our next two picks OL. Personally, I'm excited at the prospect of having an elite WR. I've watched Tyson plenty, he reminds me of Justin Jefferson.
We definitely need an elite WR to team up with Bond next year so this seems like a good recommendation. Bond should be more polished with a year under his belt; so the passing game here can tap his speed more efficiently. Again, I haven't seen Tyson very much due to the region/market I'm in; and I don't think many in here have seen very much of him either. That could put Jerry Jeudy down to our 3rd WR in the dynamics giving him far more favorable matchups.
FWIW, there's far less elite caliber LTs in this draft. Looking at Jax's record (showing how close to round 2 that our 2nd 1st round pick will come at) - if we go Big Sexy at WR with our very 1st pick (it's another year without a Santa Claus in pass protection on the blind side edge for Cleveland QBs). I think there will still be very talented WRs on our doorstep with our 2nd first round pick. Then, we can draft our RT somewhere near the top of round 2. Just a thought dictated by supply and demand - doesn't necessarily mean I'm right. I'm trying to keep an open mind so I appreciate any ideas or recommendations you have for us.
Here's a link and a little cut and paste I found about Tyson on Draft Buzz: https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Jordyn-Tyson-WR-ArizonaState
Scouting Report: Weaknesses
- Medical history raises durability concerns after suffering a significant knee injury in 2022 and season-ending collarbone injury in 2024.
- Frame could use additional bulk to better withstand NFL punishment - 195 pounds on his 6'1" frame puts him in just the 33rd percentile for weight.
- Route tree needs refinement at the top end - occasionally rounds off breaks rather than creating sharp angles NFL corners will capitalize on.
- Can get tunnel vision as a runner, sometimes missing opportunities to use blockers effectively after the catch rather than trying to beat everyone solo.
- Needs to become more consistent against press coverage - occasionally struggles against physical corners who disrupt his release timing and footwork.
Scouting Report: Summary
Tyson enters the 2025 campaign with legitimate WR1 potential for the 2026 NFL Draft class. His explosiveness off the line and natural separation skills will translate immediately to the next level, giving him a floor as a dangerous second option in any passing attack. What pushes his ceiling into potential stardom is his rare blend of downfield playmaking and chain-moving reliability. The film shows a receiver who consistently wins in the intermediate areas while maintaining some ability to take the top off defenses - a combination that translates perfectly to today's passing-heavy NFL.
Tyson thrives from both slot and boundary alignments, making him an ideal fit for modern offenses that prioritize pre-snap motion and positional flexibility. Teams deploying heavy play-action concepts will particularly covet his ability to find soft spots in zone coverage and stack defenders on vertical stems. His basketball background shows up repeatedly when watching his tape - the footwork, body control, and spatial awareness allow him to box out defenders and high-point balls in contested situations.
If Tyson can stay healthy and build upon his remarkable 2024 season, we're looking at a first-round selection come April 2026. His combination of route-running savvy, contested catch prowess, and competitive toughness will make him an immediate contributor with Pro Bowl upside by year two. The medicals remain the lone significant question mark, but players this talented with this level of production against Power Five competition rarely slip past the first round regardless. Watching him dissect defenses with Sam Leavitt should be appointment viewing for draft enthusiasts this fall. -
I think at pick 6 or 7 we take the best OT or WR available. If there aren't any, then see if you can trade down a little if that makes you happy...but even if you can't trade out, take the best OT or WR, whomever you've got rated higher. THOSE 2 POSITIONS are what we need most. (unless they're going QB for the new coach) I don't care HOW GOOD the defensive player available is...we need offensive people that can block or catch passes! Do you want to call it 'reaching'? Fine. Call it what you like. If ya can't trade down where nobody can call it a reach...THEN REACH! OL & WR are THAT MUCH of a need!
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I think at pick 6 or 7 we take the best OT or WR available. If there aren't any, then see if you can trade down a little if that makes you happy...but even if you can't trade out, take the best OT or WR, whomever you've got rated higher. THOSE 2 POSITIONS are what we need most. (unless they're going QB for the new coach) I don't care HOW GOOD the defensive player available is...we need offensive people that can block or catch passes! Do you want to call it 'reaching'? Fine. Call it what you like. If ya can't trade down where nobody can call it a reach...THEN REACH! OL & WR are THAT MUCH of a need!
I think at pick 6 or 7 we take the best OT or WR available. If there aren't any, then see if you can trade down a little if that makes you happy...but even if you can't trade out, take the best OT or WR, whomever you've got rated higher. THOSE 2 POSITIONS are what we need most. (unless they're going QB for the new coach) I don't care HOW GOOD the defensive player available is...we need offensive people that can block or catch passes! Do you want to call it 'reaching'? Fine. Call it what you like. If ya can't trade down where nobody can call it a reach...THEN REACH! OL & WR are THAT MUCH of a need!
Looks like we posted similar thoughts at the same time.
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I think at pick 6 or 7 we take the best OT or WR available. If there aren't any, then see if you can trade down a little if that makes you happy...but even if you can't trade out, take the best OT or WR, whomever you've got rated higher. THOSE 2 POSITIONS are what we need most. (unless they're going QB for the new coach) I don't care HOW GOOD the defensive player available is...we need offensive people that can block or catch passes! Do you want to call it 'reaching'? Fine. Call it what you like. If ya can't trade down where nobody can call it a reach...THEN REACH! OL & WR are THAT MUCH of a need!
Looks like we posted similar thoughts at the same time.
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I know we can't reach for OL but a WR won't work if we don't have time to throw it to him.
Please tell me there's people there that are worth the high pick.
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I know we can't reach for OL but a WR won't work if we don't have time to throw it to him.
Please tell me there's people there that are worth the high pick.
I know we can't reach for OL but a WR won't work if we don't have time to throw it to him.
We have to draft both. Early indications are the WR might have to be the 1st one of the two picked.
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
I know we can't reach for OL but a WR won't work if we don't have time to throw it to him.
Please tell me there's people there that are worth the high pick.
I know we can't reach for OL but a WR won't work if we don't have time to throw it to him.
Please tell me there's people there that are worth the high pick.
NE drafted LSU LT Will Campbell at #4 overall this year. LT is one of the most important positions on an offense aside from QB - when you can't protect the edges you only win 3 games in 2024 and 4 or 5 games in 2025-26.
The 1 thing worrying people is Spencer Fano (Utah) and Francis Mauigoa (Miami) only played RT this year for their current teams. That said, many thought Tristan Wirfs was strictly a RT before TB switched him to LT and he made Pro Bowls at both positions (and Orlando Brown before that with a sum of 4 Pro Bowls combining seasons at LT & RT). The GOOD NEWS is Caleb Lomu (Utah) is a LT with ideal footwork/agility/lateral movement starting as a Fresh & Soph Redshirt as well as Trevor Goosby (Texas) who started for 2 years at RT before starting this year at LT are great prospects. Isaiah World (Oregon) is a talented LT (transferred from Nevada) projecting to go in round 1 with experience a RT as well. Lomu or Goosby or World would justify using our 1st pick on them. The next pick we can take a WR or RT and then about 7 slots later we can take a very good player at the position we didn't draft near the end of round 1.
I'm not as excited about LT Kadyn Proctor (Alabama) at 374 lbs and doesn't move well laterally - the last 2 LTs we had most recently that played at Bama are Jed Wills & Cam Robinson. Proctor is a good run blocker - but that OL at Bama was very disappointing. If you watched Bama vrs Indiana in the Playoffs or Bama vrs Georgia in the SEC Championship Game - you know what I'm talking about.
After Lomu and Goosby are drafted -
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
We have to draft both. Early indications are the WR might have to be the 1st one of the two picked.
The supply of elite LTs are really small for a pretty big demand of teams needing LTs. If you wait - you could be stuck watching #68 Cam Robinson again next year. He was a 2nd round LT out of Bama on another year when the elite LTs went fast. See the drop-off? You can't screw around here if you ever want to protect the edges
Some knuckleheads keep listing guys playing RT this year as LTs like Francis Mauigoa (Miami), Spencer Fano (Utah), Gennings Dunker (Iowa). If their college teams don't trust them as LTs why should an NFL team? That said, I'd love to have anyone of them as fill our other huge need as a RT.
Here's an example of guys that played RT except for Proctor (who will probably be a RT in the NFL or the next Nate Newton at RG). I'm starting to think Proctor will be a RT or RG but I could be wrong about that.
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It's a nicer draft for wr's than OT.
but I couldn't pass on Tate.
and with the later pick, I think Trevor Goosby, OT, would
be a great pick at ....28?
I think Mauigoa is a terrific pick, but not with the first pick - too high, and he won't be there past the middle of the first round, I think.
and I don't see a trade down at all.
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I know we can't reach for OL but a WR won't work if we don't have time to throw it to him.
Please tell me there's people there that are worth the high pick.
NE drafted LSU LT Will Campbell at #4 overall this year. LT is one of the most important positions on an offense aside from QB - when you can't protect the edges you only win 3 games in 2024 and 4 or 5 games in 2025-26.
The 1 thing worrying people is Spencer Fano (Utah) and Francis Mauigoa (Miami) only played RT this year for their current teams. That said, many thought Tristan Wirfs was strictly a RT before TB switched him to LT and he made Pro Bowls at both positions (and Orlando Brown before that with a sum of 4 Pro Bowls combining seasons at LT & RT). The GOOD NEWS is Caleb Lomu (Utah) is a LT with ideal footwork/agility/lateral movement starting as a Fresh & Soph Redshirt as well as Trevor Goosby (Texas) who started for 2 years at RT before starting this year at LT are great prospects. Isaiah World (Oregon) is a talented LT (transferred from Nevada) projecting to go in round 1 with experience a RT as well. Lomu or Goosby or World would justify using our 1st pick on them. The next pick we can take a WR or RT and then about 7 slots later we can take a very good player at the position we didn't draft near the end of round 1.
I'm not as excited about LT Kadyn Proctor (Alabama) at 374 lbs and doesn't move well laterally - the last 2 LTs we had most recently that played at Bama are Jed Wills & Cam Robinson. Proctor is a good run blocker - but that OL at Bama was very disappointing. If you watched Bama vrs Indiana in the Playoffs or Bama vrs Georgia in the SEC Championship Game - you know what I'm talking about.
After Lomu and Goosby are drafted -
NE drafted LSU LT Will Campbell at #4 overall this year. LT is one of the most important positions on an offense aside from QB - when you can't protect the edges you only win 3 games in 2024 and 4 or 5 games in 2025-26.
The 1 thing worrying people is Spencer Fano (Utah) and Francis Mauigoa (Miami) only played RT this year for their current teams. That said, many thought Tristan Wirfs was strictly a RT before TB switched him to LT and he made Pro Bowls at both positions (and Orlando Brown before that with a sum of 4 Pro Bowls combining seasons at LT & RT). The GOOD NEWS is Caleb Lomu (Utah) is a LT with ideal footwork/agility/lateral movement starting as a Fresh & Soph Redshirt as well as Trevor Goosby (Texas) who started for 2 years at RT before starting this year at LT are great prospects. Isaiah World (Oregon) is a talented LT (transferred from Nevada) projecting to go in round 1 with experience a RT as well. Lomu or Goosby or World would justify using our 1st pick on them. The next pick we can take a WR or RT and then about 7 slots later we can take a very good player at the position we didn't draft near the end of round 1.
I'm not as excited about LT Kadyn Proctor (Alabama) at 374 lbs and doesn't move well laterally - the last 2 LTs we had most recently that played at Bama are Jed Wills & Cam Robinson. Proctor is a good run blocker - but that OL at Bama was very disappointing. If you watched Bama vrs Indiana in the Playoffs or Bama vrs Georgia in the SEC Championship Game - you know what I'm talking about.
After Lomu and Goosby are drafted -
Yes I agree, I was wanting to hit the OL last year but not complaining about with what we did.
Question, can we grab someone that can temporarily slide over to LT for '26 if there are any true LTs worth taking in '27?
Question hinges on whether we think we can make a deep run in the play offs next year. If not then why not have a 2 year plan?
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It's a nicer draft for wr's than OT.
but I couldn't pass on Tate.
and with the later pick, I think Trevor Goosby, OT, would
be a great pick at ....28?
I think Mauigoa is a terrific pick, but not with the first pick - too high, and he won't be there past the middle of the first round, I think.
and I don't see a trade down at all.
I think Mauigoa is a terrific pick, but not with the first pick - too high, and he won't be there past the middle of the first round, I think.
IMO, everybody's too hung up on the monetary value of the draft pick. To me, the draft is like going to the store. Replenishing supplies.
I tell Mrs. Wife I'm going to the department store to buy a pair of shoes. I come back and Mrs. Wife asks, Where's your new shoes? And I tell her that nobody would trade with me so I had to buy another pair of gloves. But they're really good gloves dear.
Take the player that you need. It'll be called a reach if the guy sucks...but the guy still would've sucked if you were able to trade down and get him at what would be perceived as 'good value'. Nobody sees Schwesinger as a reach anymore. He went right in for JOK.
Obviously, if the position of urgent need is just head and shoulders below everyone else, then ya can't do it. But you can still usually find someone that fills some sort of need.
Of course when your roster is fairly well stocked you can be much more BPA to add cream to the crop. But first you've gotta get shit fixed.
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It's a nicer draft for wr's than OT.
but I couldn't pass on Tate.
and with the later pick, I think Trevor Goosby, OT, would
be a great pick at ....28?
I think Mauigoa is a terrific pick, but not with the first pick - too high, and he won't be there past the middle of the first round, I think.
and I don't see a trade down at all.
It's a nicer draft for wr's than OT.
but I couldn't pass on Tate.
and with the later pick, I think Trevor Goosby, OT, would
be a great pick at ....28?
I think Mauigoa is a terrific pick, but not with the first pick - too high, and he won't be there past the middle of the first round, I think.
and I don't see a trade down at all.
I disagree on Tate. He is nothing without Smith taking all the heat off him. Unimpressive against Miami's DBs. I just don't see the NFL speed for a #1 WR, which is what we really need.
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It's a nicer draft for wr's than OT.
but I couldn't pass on Tate.
and with the later pick, I think Trevor Goosby, OT, would
be a great pick at ....28?
I think Mauigoa is a terrific pick, but not with the first pick - too high, and he won't be there past the middle of the first round, I think.
and I don't see a trade down at all.
I disagree on Tate. He is nothing without Smith taking all the heat off him. Unimpressive against Miami's DBs. I just don't see the NFL speed for a #1 WR, which is what we really need.
I disagree on Tate. He is nothing without Smith taking all the heat off him. Unimpressive against Miami's DBs. I just don't see the NFL speed for a #1 WR, which is what we really need.
Get Tate late 2nd round.. Could be a good possession chain mover type in right offense...
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NE drafted LSU LT Will Campbell at #4 overall this year. LT is one of the most important positions on an offense aside from QB - when you can't protect the edges you only win 3 games in 2024 and 4 or 5 games in 2025-26.
The 1 thing worrying people is Spencer Fano (Utah) and Francis Mauigoa (Miami) only played RT this year for their current teams. That said, many thought Tristan Wirfs was strictly a RT before TB switched him to LT and he made Pro Bowls at both positions (and Orlando Brown before that with a sum of 4 Pro Bowls combining seasons at LT & RT). The GOOD NEWS is Caleb Lomu (Utah) is a LT with ideal footwork/agility/lateral movement starting as a Fresh & Soph Redshirt as well as Trevor Goosby (Texas) who started for 2 years at RT before starting this year at LT are great prospects. Isaiah World (Oregon) is a talented LT (transferred from Nevada) projecting to go in round 1 with experience a RT as well. Lomu or Goosby or World would justify using our 1st pick on them. The next pick we can take a WR or RT and then about 7 slots later we can take a very good player at the position we didn't draft near the end of round 1.
I'm not as excited about LT Kadyn Proctor (Alabama) at 374 lbs and doesn't move well laterally - the last 2 LTs we had most recently that played at Bama are Jed Wills & Cam Robinson. Proctor is a good run blocker - but that OL at Bama was very disappointing. If you watched Bama vrs Indiana in the Playoffs or Bama vrs Georgia in the SEC Championship Game - you know what I'm talking about.
After Lomu and Goosby are drafted -
Yes I agree, I was wanting to hit the OL last year but not complaining about with what we did.
Question, can we grab someone that can temporarily slide over to LT for '26 if there are any true LTs worth taking in '27?
Question hinges on whether we think we can make a deep run in the play offs next year. If not then why not have a 2 year plan?
Yes I agree, I was wanting to hit the OL last year but not complaining about with what we did.
Question, can we grab someone that can temporarily slide over to LT for '26 if there are any true LTs worth taking in '27?
Question hinges on whether we think we can make a deep run in the play offs next year. If not then why not have a 2 year plan?
Great questions!
I think of 2 guys that made the transition; BUT both made a couple Pro Bowls at RT first - Orlando Brown Jr (Ravens) & Tristan Wirfs (Bucs). Bringing this closer to home - the Browns tried this with Alabama's Jed Wills as a rookie. For a little while (rookie year) - it looked like it was working as that was clearly his best season here. That was the 2020 season where the Browns also signed FA - RT Jack Conklin (who stayed healthy for the full season). The Browns made the playoffs and won their 1st post season game making it appear we had a nice future with these 2 guys protecting the edges. The very next year it all changed as both had nagging injuries where they missed games or attempted to play through the injuries without any consistent success. The following year, rinse and repeat with the same the next year and so on. Without getting too deep into cause and effect for each guy - timing is everything as they say.
Just from that experience here, I hope we land a guy that played LT with success (but doesn't have all his best work in the rear view mirror) with our 1st pick. There can't possibly be a bigger need for this team (when the blind side of QB counts on his protection). Smart organizations make sure they try to protect their QB investment as best as they can (ie; NE drafting LT Will Campbell at #4 overall in 2025).
Anyway, I think there's a good volume of RTs where we can land one with either our 2nd 1st round pick or in the top 5 picks of the 2nd round. Whatever one of those we don't spend on a RT we can spend on a very talented WR. A round or 2 later, we may also have to draft an OG if Teller leaves or Bitonio retires or both...
The second year, we add depth to our line. It's that decimated today unfortunately... We can also use a later round this year or maybe look for veteran FAs. For example, former Chicago Bear - Teven Jenkins has filled in admirably at Guard for us when we've needed him.
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