Anderson to start against the Bengals
-
He sure was on a roll.
We beat Cincy (who couldn't?) and he had a great game against the Giants on Monday Night...
Then what?
37.8% CP against Washington- Loss
51.9% CP against Jacksonville (wasn't a bad game for him, but Jacksonville's D was terrible)- Win
Here's the kicker:
51.5% CP against Baltimore... On the drive he needed to take the lead.... Pick 6 to Terrell Suggs. And it wasn't pretty. The only short pass DA could complete is to the other team, and it was just sad. That pick 6 sealed the game for Baltimore.
What good is a QB that can only beat bad teams? Year in and year out we will play both good and bad teams. DA beat one good team in all of his starts, and that was against the Giants in a great game that teased us.
In 2007 we played the weakest schedule in the league. 19 of his 29 TD's came against teams that drafted in the top 9 (or would have if they didn't trade their pick) of the 2008 draft. Those teams are Cincy x2, Baltimore x2, San Fran, Oakland, Miami, St. Louis, NY Jets. Miami and St. Louis he threw 6 of those 29 TD's and threw 7 TD's in 2 games against Cincy.
When he faces a top 15 defense, he gets handled. Pitt, NE, Seattle, and Zona. Yeah, we had a really weak schedule.
My theory was proved opening up 2008 against Pitt, Baltimore and Dallas, all 3 top 10 defenses healthy (Baltimore's defense wasn't that great in 2007 because of a ton of injuries) and he was garbage.
Anybody thinking that Anderson is a good QB is sadly mistaken. He's average at best. Average QB's beat bad teams and can't beat good teams.
I get it... Seat Anderson and lose to EVERYBODY with Quinn. Great idea. I have never said Anderson is the franchise QB, a great QB, or the team's future, but I have defended him from the idiots on this board who call him a lousy QB. I'll take average at best over the current alternatives 'til the Browns can find a legit franchise QB.
I get it... Seat Anderson and lose to EVERYBODY with Quinn. Great idea. I have never said Anderson is the franchise QB, a great QB, or the team's future, but I have defended him from the idiots on this board who call him a lousy QB. I'll take average at best over the current alternatives 'til the Browns can find a legit franchise QB.
Oh... And just another thing. WE ARE NOT A PLAYOFF TEAM!
Why do people think that we are all of a sudden going to win 10 games if we change our QB's all of a sudden. We're rebuilding. New HC, new GM, new OC, new DC, new ST coach, 26 new players, and people want to make us out to be a winning program? We're not even average.
Let the kid have his reps. We've wasted a season and a half with DA, why can't we give Quinn 10-16 games? I mean, shit, we gave Charlie Frye 19 starts... But we can't give a former first round pick more than 6? Really?
I want to find out if he can turn into a real QB. DA obviously isn't a real QB. When we want to play St. Mary's Team of the Blind, we'll bring in DA so he can throw 3-5 TD's.
But I want a QB that can beat Dallas, New England, and most importantly Baltimore and Pittsburgh. Is Quinn that? Probably not, but 5.5 games isn't going to tell us.
DA obviously can't do it, so why are we keeping him in?
http://dabrowns41.blogspot.com Browns and Draft talk. Enjoy! -
I get it... Seat Anderson and lose to EVERYBODY with Quinn. Great idea. I have never said Anderson is the franchise QB, a great QB, or the team's future, but I have defended him from the idiots on this board who call him a lousy QB. I'll take average at best over the current alternatives 'til the Browns can find a legit franchise QB.
Oh... And just another thing. WE ARE NOT A PLAYOFF TEAM!
Why do people think that we are all of a sudden going to win 10 games if we change our QB's all of a sudden. We're rebuilding. New HC, new GM, new OC, new DC, new ST coach, 26 new players, and people want to make us out to be a winning program? We're not even average.
Let the kid have his reps. We've wasted a season and a half with DA, why can't we give Quinn 10-16 games? I mean, shit, we gave Charlie Frye 19 starts... But we can't give a former first round pick more than 6? Really?
I want to find out if he can turn into a real QB. DA obviously isn't a real QB. When we want to play St. Mary's Team of the Blind, we'll bring in DA so he can throw 3-5 TD's.
But I want a QB that can beat Dallas, New England, and most importantly Baltimore and Pittsburgh. Is Quinn that? Probably not, but 5.5 games isn't going to tell us.
DA obviously can't do it, so why are we keeping him in?
I mean, shit, we gave Charlie Frye 19 starts... But we can't give a former first round pick more than 6? Really?
This is the thing that blows my mind. Charlie Frye was a DREADFUL QB - you could see it early on, but he STILL got an entire season as THE unquestioned starter (until he was injured). I think he might have even had a better team around him.
I shake my head in disbelief.
-
I get it... Seat Anderson and lose to EVERYBODY with Quinn. Great idea. I have never said Anderson is the franchise QB, a great QB, or the team's future, but I have defended him from the idiots on this board who call him a lousy QB. I'll take average at best over the current alternatives 'til the Browns can find a legit franchise QB.
Oh... And just another thing. WE ARE NOT A PLAYOFF TEAM!
Why do people think that we are all of a sudden going to win 10 games if we change our QB's all of a sudden. We're rebuilding. New HC, new GM, new OC, new DC, new ST coach, 26 new players, and people want to make us out to be a winning program? We're not even average.
Let the kid have his reps. We've wasted a season and a half with DA, why can't we give Quinn 10-16 games? I mean, shit, we gave Charlie Frye 19 starts... But we can't give a former first round pick more than 6? Really?
I want to find out if he can turn into a real QB. DA obviously isn't a real QB. When we want to play St. Mary's Team of the Blind, we'll bring in DA so he can throw 3-5 TD's.
But I want a QB that can beat Dallas, New England, and most importantly Baltimore and Pittsburgh. Is Quinn that? Probably not, but 5.5 games isn't going to tell us.
DA obviously can't do it, so why are we keeping him in?
Oh... And just another thing. WE ARE NOT A PLAYOFF TEAM!
Why do people think that we are all of a sudden going to win 10 games if we change our QB's all of a sudden. We're rebuilding. New HC, new GM, new OC, new DC, new ST coach, 26 new players, and people want to make us out to be a winning program? We're not even average.
Let the kid have his reps. We've wasted a season and a half with DA, why can't we give Quinn 10-16 games? I mean, shit, we gave Charlie Frye 19 starts... But we can't give a former first round pick more than 6? Really?
I want to find out if he can turn into a real QB. DA obviously isn't a real QB. When we want to play St. Mary's Team of the Blind, we'll bring in DA so he can throw 3-5 TD's.
But I want a QB that can beat Dallas, New England, and most importantly Baltimore and Pittsburgh. Is Quinn that? Probably not, but 5.5 games isn't going to tell us.
DA obviously can't do it, so why are we keeping him in?
So you'd rather take a chance at winning zip than winning 5 or 6?
Unfortunately, wins, the more the merrier, sell seats. It's tough for team ownership and management to write off a season just to give 1 guy his shot. My guess is that if they really think Quinn has more potential than DA we'll be seeing him soon enough, otherwise I suspect they're satisfied they've seen enough of him.
-
Oh... And just another thing. WE ARE NOT A PLAYOFF TEAM!
Why do people think that we are all of a sudden going to win 10 games if we change our QB's all of a sudden. We're rebuilding. New HC, new GM, new OC, new DC, new ST coach, 26 new players, and people want to make us out to be a winning program? We're not even average.
Let the kid have his reps. We've wasted a season and a half with DA, why can't we give Quinn 10-16 games? I mean, shit, we gave Charlie Frye 19 starts... But we can't give a former first round pick more than 6? Really?
I want to find out if he can turn into a real QB. DA obviously isn't a real QB. When we want to play St. Mary's Team of the Blind, we'll bring in DA so he can throw 3-5 TD's.
But I want a QB that can beat Dallas, New England, and most importantly Baltimore and Pittsburgh. Is Quinn that? Probably not, but 5.5 games isn't going to tell us.
DA obviously can't do it, so why are we keeping him in?
So you'd rather take a chance at winning zip than winning 5 or 6?
Unfortunately, wins, the more the merrier, sell seats. It's tough for team ownership and management to write off a season just to give 1 guy his shot. My guess is that if they really think Quinn has more potential than DA we'll be seeing him soon enough, otherwise I suspect they're satisfied they've seen enough of him.
So you'd rather take a chance at winning zip than winning 5 or 6?
Unfortunately, wins, the more the merrier, sell seats. It's tough for team ownership and management to write off a season just to give 1 guy his shot. My guess is that if they really think Quinn has more potential than DA we'll be seeing him soon enough, otherwise I suspect they're satisfied they've seen enough of him.
The Browns have been perennial losers, and are always sold out.
Bad excuse.
-
the idiots on this board who call him a lousy QB.
I'm not sure how "lousy" doesn't fit.
If you were the worst in the department of whatever you do, wouldn't you most likely be considered "lousy"?
DA was the worst rated passer last year and in his 2 quarters so far this year threw 3 INT's. I'm struggling to see how that isn't "lousy".
Sorry, I must be dense.
-
the idiots on this board who call him a lousy QB.
I'm not sure how "lousy" doesn't fit.
If you were the worst in the department of whatever you do, wouldn't you most likely be considered "lousy"?
DA was the worst rated passer last year and in his 2 quarters so far this year threw 3 INT's. I'm struggling to see how that isn't "lousy".
Sorry, I must be dense.
I'm not sure how "lousy" doesn't fit.
If you were the worst in the department of whatever you do, wouldn't you most likely be considered "lousy"?
DA was the worst rated passer last year and in his 2 quarters so far this year threw 3 INT's. I'm struggling to see how that isn't "lousy".
Sorry, I must be dense.
you also forget he barely played any games and was injured the rest of the year, so why don't you go and look at 2007?
-
the idiots on this board who call him a lousy QB.
I'm not sure how "lousy" doesn't fit.
If you were the worst in the department of whatever you do, wouldn't you most likely be considered "lousy"?
DA was the worst rated passer last year and in his 2 quarters so far this year threw 3 INT's. I'm struggling to see how that isn't "lousy".
Sorry, I must be dense.
I'm not sure how "lousy" doesn't fit.
If you were the worst in the department of whatever you do, wouldn't you most likely be considered "lousy"?
DA was the worst rated passer last year and in his 2 quarters so far this year threw 3 INT's. I'm struggling to see how that isn't "lousy".
Sorry, I must be dense.
If this guy turned my department around the previous year, then came to work in questionable health and didn't perform up to his previous standards to the point that I had to send him home... then his replacements couldn't match the output he had in his bad times, and I brought him back in the middle of a deal gone sour and it didn't pan out.... I'd give him a shot on the next project. I'd keep my eye on him for sure, but when his replacements can't do the things he did, and they were things I thought the department needed, I'd give him a shot.
DA wasn't the "worst rated passer last year", he was only the worst if you looked at it one particular way. There were a bunch of NFL QBs who'd have preferred to have DA's results last season. Heck, even Hasselbeck put up a 57 passers rating, just one game short of qualifying to be on the list DA squeezed on to. He had a very bad year, under suspect circumstances. People made a big deal about Quinn's health affecting his play, not DA's. Well Quinn is healthy this season and looks no different. 3 ints in a throw-away half means nothing. If he goes in this game and plays the same way, then maybe you've got a legitimate claim... but 'til then you're grasping.
-
I'm not sure how "lousy" doesn't fit.
If you were the worst in the department of whatever you do, wouldn't you most likely be considered "lousy"?
DA was the worst rated passer last year and in his 2 quarters so far this year threw 3 INT's. I'm struggling to see how that isn't "lousy".
Sorry, I must be dense.
you also forget he barely played any games and was injured the rest of the year, so why don't you go and look at 2007?
you also forget he barely played any games and was injured the rest of the year, so why don't you go and look at 2007?
We did, if you had been paying attention, Anderson padded his stats against the weak sisters of the NFL. Had bulletproof protection in those games. Kyle freaking Orton tore the Browns apart this year, given the same luxury. One great win on MNF against the Giants does not make DA even average.
Let's look at it another way- you think Tom Brady would have been the 32nd ranked passer in the NFL if he had been playing for the '08 Browns? I seriously doubt it.
-
Brady Quinn didn't lose to BUF, so your only argument is DEN.
Considering who else he had lost to that season, yes, it is ENTIRELY possible he would have lost to DEN. I guess we'll never know.
Now, as you KEEP saying, he went 10-5, as if there weren't other players involved in DAs success. You want him to take all the glory, but none of the blame. When the team wins, it's DAs great play, and when they lose, it's always someone else's fault.
You even made excuses for WHY he came in and threw INTs - the same excuses that, for Quinn, were just excuses and proof that he sucks.
Frankly, I'm tired of the DA supporters, and you've made it impossible for me to like the guy. I *want* him to fail just so I can watch you guys trip over yourselves trying to make excuses.
So, there you go. It's childish, yes, but I'm sick of you losers hanging around to support ONE GUY.
whats the bid deal if we support the qb we like... u support quinn thats the guy u like... u talking him up doesnt make me dislike him anymore...
DA is not going to be the next Brett Farve or Tom Brady, but in that same sense either is Quinn...
But with all that said im sick of talking about these two and i just wanna see a xxxxing win, or better yet some TD's
But with all that said im sick of talking about these two and i just wanna see a xxxxing win, or better yet some TD's
How about some INT's?
-
Nice long post D&S, but the fact remains: DA's play had been lousy since about, what 2/3 or 3/4 of the way through 2007? A plethora of excuses can be compiled (such as the list you've provided time and again) but its a bottom line league (ask Quinn). Let's also not forget that DA failed to beat out the now maligned Quinn in the preseason. So, he had to be pretty "lousy" in camp as well.
Oh well, getting close to Sunday so time to put critiques aside and get ready to whoop some Bengal butt.
Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.
Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.
With your input, this post could be even better 💗
Register Login