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    I just finished watching his introductory presser.  

    My favorite part was where he repeated what I've said somewhere in one of these HC related threads about building a system around your players to utilize their strengths that got them Into the NFL and not what they're not as good at.  He actually used my square pegs into round holes analogy.  ( commonly used, I know )  I always point to one of my favorite coaches as Don Shula because he RAN YOU into the ground with Cszonka, Kickk, and Morris.........and then he PASSED YOU TO DEATH with Marino and the Super Dupers.  

    I also got the impression that Schwartz is not coming back.  He answered be saying that he had, in fact, talked to Jim Schwartz.....but that's all he said....and kind of like, Yeah, I talked to him.   And later when talking about playing against our D he said, ' I wasn't to going to say it...but, I'm going to say it.  When I was chipping somebody, it wasn't Jim Schwartz I was chipping.  It was Myles Garrett.  When I was concerned about a blitz it wasn't Schwartz I was blocking, it was Grant Delpit. '.  etc.  He did state that the players shouldn't be concerned because he has no plans to change the defensive system.   -  I just felt that he was telling us that Jim's not coming back, and I don't need  him back.

    He was asked about the starting QB's...he lumped the QB's among all of the players on the team without singling out a starter from a backup.

    He said that the biggest change in the NFL is the analytics of 4th down.  How teams are using that down to go get the 1st down and be able to go get points.  

    He displayed his human side when acknowledging reaching his goal of becoming and NFL HC.

    I like him.  I wish him all the luck.   Go Browns!

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    @orion said:

    I just finished watching his introductory presser.  

    My favorite part was where he repeated what I've said somewhere in one of these HC related threads about building a system around your players to utilize their strengths that got them Into the NFL and not what they're not as good at.  He actually used my square pegs into round holes analogy.  ( commonly used, I know )  I always point to one of my favorite coaches as Don Shula because he RAN YOU into the ground with Cszonka, Kickk, and Morris.........and then he PASSED YOU TO DEATH with Marino and the Super Dupers.  

    I also got the impression that Schwartz is not coming back.  He answered be saying that he had, in fact, talked to Jim Schwartz.....but that's all he said....and kind of like, Yeah, I talked to him.   And later when talking about playing against our D he said, ' I wasn't to going to say it...but, I'm going to say it.  When I was chipping somebody, it wasn't Jim Schwartz I was chipping.  It was Myles Garrett.  When I was concerned about a blitz it wasn't Schwartz I was blocking, it was Grant Delpit. '.  etc.  He did state that the players shouldn't be concerned because he has no plans to change the defensive system.   -  I just felt that he was telling us that Jim's not coming back, and I don't need  him back.

    He was asked about the starting QB's...he lumped the QB's among all of the players on the team without singling out a starter from a backup.

    He said that the biggest change in the NFL is the analytics of 4th down.  How teams are using that down to go get the 1st down and be able to go get points.  

    He displayed his human side when acknowledging reaching his goal of becoming and NFL HC.

    I like him.  I wish him all the luck.   Go Browns!

    Enjoyable post!  Believe it or not, concerning this team I've always been a big fan of using that square peg - round hole analogy.  I must be getting old because I'm not using it nearly as frequently.  Then again, on a team that continued to neglect the OT position especially considering extended wear and tear to Conklin, Jones and Wills (combining for multiple IR visits among the trio).  32 year old journey man Cornelius Lucas and the flat lining career of Cam Robinson were only available for obvious reasons.  They can't help anyone's offense. I feel bad being so negative about them - but I need to be honest like the lyrics once said "You gotta be cruel to be kind." 

    I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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      @orion said:

      I just finished watching his introductory presser.  

      My favorite part was where he repeated what I've said somewhere in one of these HC related threads about building a system around your players to utilize their strengths that got them Into the NFL and not what they're not as good at.  He actually used my square pegs into round holes analogy.  ( commonly used, I know )  I always point to one of my favorite coaches as Don Shula because he RAN YOU into the ground with Cszonka, Kickk, and Morris.........and then he PASSED YOU TO DEATH with Marino and the Super Dupers.  

      I also got the impression that Schwartz is not coming back.  He answered be saying that he had, in fact, talked to Jim Schwartz.....but that's all he said....and kind of like, Yeah, I talked to him.   And later when talking about playing against our D he said, ' I wasn't to going to say it...but, I'm going to say it.  When I was chipping somebody, it wasn't Jim Schwartz I was chipping.  It was Myles Garrett.  When I was concerned about a blitz it wasn't Schwartz I was blocking, it was Grant Delpit. '.  etc.  He did state that the players shouldn't be concerned because he has no plans to change the defensive system.   -  I just felt that he was telling us that Jim's not coming back, and I don't need  him back.

      He was asked about the starting QB's...he lumped the QB's among all of the players on the team without singling out a starter from a backup.

      He said that the biggest change in the NFL is the analytics of 4th down.  How teams are using that down to go get the 1st down and be able to go get points.  

      He displayed his human side when acknowledging reaching his goal of becoming and NFL HC.

      I like him.  I wish him all the luck.   Go Browns!

      Enjoyable post!  Believe it or not, concerning this team I've always been a big fan of using that square peg - round hole analogy.  I must be getting old because I'm not using it nearly as frequently.  Then again, on a team that continued to neglect the OT position especially considering extended wear and tear to Conklin, Jones and Wills (combining for multiple IR visits among the trio).  32 year old journey man Cornelius Lucas and the flat lining career of Cam Robinson were only available for obvious reasons.  They can't help anyone's offense. I feel bad being so negative about them - but I need to be honest like the lyrics once said "You gotta be cruel to be kind." 

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      @flugel said:

      They can't help anyone's offense. I feel bad being so negative about them - but

      Yeah, I hear ya.  We've got nothing personal against them.  But it's what fans do when they talk about their teams.  Whether it be on a message board, at a card table, or from a bar stool, it's what fans have always done.

      Monken is in phase 1.  He's trying to assemble a staff.  He claims there's no time table for that because it takes as long as it takes to find the 'right' people.

      After that he can start really evaluating the players that he has.  I'm certain however, that he and Berry have talked about the offensive personnel on the team such that he's well aware of the OL & WR groups requiring major overhauls.  

      And then he's got the combine.

      And then FA.

      And then he's got the draft.   

      It's going to be a busy offseason for Todd Monken.

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        “With Todd, we love just his performance track record, what we heard about him with young players, his offensive track record was, quite honestly, unprecedented in terms of being on the open market. Pro, college, mobile quarterbacks, limited quarterbacks, star quarterbacks, air-raid system, power run game, it’s very rare that you can find a coach that doesn’t have a system but it truly fluid in adapting it to the personnel,” Berry said.

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        That's what I wanted.  I HC that isn't ruled by a system but can build an offense around the talent that he has.  Go Todd!

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          Planting a fan camp flag for one FA lineman Todd Monken coached down at Georgia ? 

          Hoping AB at least gets a FA player interview if not resigned..

          G/T LA Chargers Jamaree Salyer  6th round pick #195 (draft experts missed imo)

          Salyer's been asked to play well over his ski's, at every line position but Center since Georgia's 2021 Championship. Same reasons, Jamaree don't care what PFF (s)thinks..

          in 2025    LT-250 snaps  RT- 42 snaps  RG- 157 snaps

          Salyer is well down the PFF's FA ranking list ... GOOD !    Go get a Dawg Todd !

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            Planting a fan camp flag for one FA lineman Todd Monken coached down at Georgia ? 

            Hoping AB at least gets a FA player interview if not resigned..

            G/T LA Chargers Jamaree Salyer  6th round pick #195 (draft experts missed imo)

            Salyer's been asked to play well over his ski's, at every line position but Center since Georgia's 2021 Championship. Same reasons, Jamaree don't care what PFF (s)thinks..

            in 2025    LT-250 snaps  RT- 42 snaps  RG- 157 snaps

            Salyer is well down the PFF's FA ranking list ... GOOD !    Go get a Dawg Todd !

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            @gumby73 said:

            Planting a fan camp flag for one FA lineman Todd Monken coached down at Georgia ? 

            Hoping AB at least gets a FA player interview if not resigned..

            G/T LA Chargers Jamaree Salyer  6th round pick #195 (draft experts missed imo)

            Salyer's been asked to play well over his ski's, at every line position but Center since Georgia's 2021 Championship. Same reasons, Jamaree don't care what PFF (s)thinks..

            in 2025    LT-250 snaps  RT- 42 snaps  RG- 157 snaps

            Salyer is well down the PFF's FA ranking list ... GOOD !    Go get a Dawg Todd !

            Nice!  Gumbs, it's also conceivable if the Browns traded back slightly there's another Dawg that played some really good LT at UGA - Monroe Freeling that could land on our draft slot.  That wouldn't suck!  

            I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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              @gumby73 said:

              Planting a fan camp flag for one FA lineman Todd Monken coached down at Georgia ? 

              Hoping AB at least gets a FA player interview if not resigned..

              G/T LA Chargers Jamaree Salyer  6th round pick #195 (draft experts missed imo)

              Salyer's been asked to play well over his ski's, at every line position but Center since Georgia's 2021 Championship. Same reasons, Jamaree don't care what PFF (s)thinks..

              in 2025    LT-250 snaps  RT- 42 snaps  RG- 157 snaps

              Salyer is well down the PFF's FA ranking list ... GOOD !    Go get a Dawg Todd !

              Nice!  Gumbs, it's also conceivable if the Browns traded back slightly there's another Dawg that played some really good LT at UGA - Monroe Freeling that could land on our draft slot.  That wouldn't suck!  

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              @flugel said:

              Nice!  Gumbs, it's also conceivable if the Browns traded back slightly there's another Dawg that played some really good LT at UGA - Monroe Freeling that could land on our draft slot.  That wouldn't suck!  

              I’ve read good things about Goolsby from Texas too

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                @gumby73 said:

                Planting a fan camp flag for one FA lineman Todd Monken coached down at Georgia ? 

                Hoping AB at least gets a FA player interview if not resigned..

                G/T LA Chargers Jamaree Salyer  6th round pick #195 (draft experts missed imo)

                Salyer's been asked to play well over his ski's, at every line position but Center since Georgia's 2021 Championship. Same reasons, Jamaree don't care what PFF (s)thinks..

                in 2025    LT-250 snaps  RT- 42 snaps  RG- 157 snaps

                Salyer is well down the PFF's FA ranking list ... GOOD !    Go get a Dawg Todd !

                Nice!  Gumbs, it's also conceivable if the Browns traded back slightly there's another Dawg that played some really good LT at UGA - Monroe Freeling that could land on our draft slot.  That wouldn't suck!  

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                gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
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                @flugel said:

                Nice!  Gumbs, it's also conceivable if the Browns traded back slightly there's another Dawg that played some really good LT at UGA - Monroe Freeling that could land on our draft slot.  That wouldn't suck!  

                Really like this OL class Flugel. Hopefully we still get Joe Thomas opinions from the floor at the combine ?  

                Like the move of Defense moved to Thurs & Fri.... All Offense now goes Saturday. & Sunday ?

                • Thursday, Feb. 26 -- Defensive linemen, linebackers
                • Friday, Feb. 27 -- Defensive backs, tight ends
                • Saturday, Feb. 28 -- Quarterbacks, wide receivers, running backs
                • Sunday, March 1 -- Offensive linemen

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                  @flugel said:

                  Nice!  Gumbs, it's also conceivable if the Browns traded back slightly there's another Dawg that played some really good LT at UGA - Monroe Freeling that could land on our draft slot.  That wouldn't suck!  

                  I’ve read good things about Goolsby from Texas too

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                  @dutch-oven said:

                  I’ve read good things about Goolsby from Texas too

                  Yeah, I mentioned somewhere in here 3-4 weeks ago that he decided to return to Texas for the 2026 season in lieu of entering the draft - making an already thin LT class even skinnier. When I suddenly couldn't find his name in the draft simulator any more I decided to check out what happened...

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                    Nice!  Gumbs, it's also conceivable if the Browns traded back slightly there's another Dawg that played some really good LT at UGA - Monroe Freeling that could land on our draft slot.  That wouldn't suck!  

                    I’ve read good things about Goolsby from Texas too

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                    @dutch-oven said:

                    I’ve read good things about Goolsby from Texas too

                    Yeah, back when he was in the mocks I ended up with him in one of mine that I shared in your draft simulator thread.

                    I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
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                      @flugel said:

                      Nice!  Gumbs, it's also conceivable if the Browns traded back slightly there's another Dawg that played some really good LT at UGA - Monroe Freeling that could land on our draft slot.  That wouldn't suck!  

                      Really like this OL class Flugel. Hopefully we still get Joe Thomas opinions from the floor at the combine ?  

                      Like the move of Defense moved to Thurs & Fri.... All Offense now goes Saturday. & Sunday ?

                      • Thursday, Feb. 26 -- Defensive linemen, linebackers
                      • Friday, Feb. 27 -- Defensive backs, tight ends
                      • Saturday, Feb. 28 -- Quarterbacks, wide receivers, running backs
                      • Sunday, March 1 -- Offensive linemen

                      https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2026-nfl-combine-dates-schedule-drills-tv-stream-location-top-prospects/

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                      @gumby73 said:

                      Really like this OL class Flugel. Hopefully we still get Joe Thomas opinions from the floor at the combine ?  

                      Like the move of Defense moved to Thurs & Fri.... All Offense now goes Saturday. & Sunday ?

                      • Thursday, Feb. 26 -- Defensive linemen, linebackers
                      • Friday, Feb. 27 -- Defensive backs, tight ends
                      • Saturday, Feb. 28 -- Quarterbacks, wide receivers, running backs
                      • Sunday, March 1 -- Offensive linemen

                      https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2026-nfl-combine-dates-schedule-drills-tv-stream-location-top-prospects/

                      Yeah, I think we can 2 very good Tackles by the time we're done with our 2nd pick.  There's a lot of good OGs in this draft as well as college OTs that will play OG in the NFL.  Can't wait!

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                        Really like this OL class Flugel. Hopefully we still get Joe Thomas opinions from the floor at the combine ?  

                        Like the move of Defense moved to Thurs & Fri.... All Offense now goes Saturday. & Sunday ?

                        • Thursday, Feb. 26 -- Defensive linemen, linebackers
                        • Friday, Feb. 27 -- Defensive backs, tight ends
                        • Saturday, Feb. 28 -- Quarterbacks, wide receivers, running backs
                        • Sunday, March 1 -- Offensive linemen

                        https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2026-nfl-combine-dates-schedule-drills-tv-stream-location-top-prospects/

                        Yeah, I think we can 2 very good Tackles by the time we're done with our 2nd pick.  There's a lot of good OGs in this draft as well as college OTs that will play OG in the NFL.  Can't wait!

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                        Yeah, I think we can 2 very good Tackles by the time we're done with our 2nd pick.  There's a lot of good OGs in this draft as well as college OTs that will play OG in the NFL.  Can't wait!

                        Are we starting two rookies on the offensive line or three? 

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                          @dutch-oven said:

                          I’ve read good things about Goolsby from Texas too

                          Yeah, back when he was in the mocks I ended up with him in one of mine that I shared in your draft simulator thread.

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                          @flugel said:

                          Yeah, back when he was in the mocks I ended up with him in one of mine that I shared in your draft simulator thread.

                          Wow, tells you how much I've been paying attention to this draft lately. ?

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                            Yeah, I think we can 2 very good Tackles by the time we're done with our 2nd pick.  There's a lot of good OGs in this draft as well as college OTs that will play OG in the NFL.  Can't wait!

                            Are we starting two rookies on the offensive line or three? 

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                            Are we starting two rookies on the offensive line or three? 

                            As many as necessary.  We drafted and started 2 rookie QBs last year and 1 of them needed a step stool to see over the line of scrimmage.  Just think if we drafted an Olineman in round 3 instead of the QB. AB drafted ZERO OL in 2025. The current OL lost 14 games in 2024 and 12 games in 2025 - so I'm all for upgrading whatever is needed upfront.  Aside from that, have you looked at how many of our 2025 starting OL are FAs in 2026?   It also looks like Conklin is gone and Dawand Jones comes off his 3rd consecutive season landing on IR followed by surgery (but 390 lbs on a pogo-stick would at least be an alternative to a rookie. Warm fuzzies?)

                            I HAVE mentioned we could add a FA like RT Braden Smith from Indy (a former 2nd round pick from Auburn).  There's probably FAs at OG we can sign to minimize the number of rookie starters or continue to use Teven Jenkins inside as needed. 

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                              Really like this OL class Flugel. Hopefully we still get Joe Thomas opinions from the floor at the combine ?  

                              Like the move of Defense moved to Thurs & Fri.... All Offense now goes Saturday. & Sunday ?

                              • Thursday, Feb. 26 -- Defensive linemen, linebackers
                              • Friday, Feb. 27 -- Defensive backs, tight ends
                              • Saturday, Feb. 28 -- Quarterbacks, wide receivers, running backs
                              • Sunday, March 1 -- Offensive linemen

                              https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2026-nfl-combine-dates-schedule-drills-tv-stream-location-top-prospects/

                              Yeah, I think we can 2 very good Tackles by the time we're done with our 2nd pick.  There's a lot of good OGs in this draft as well as college OTs that will play OG in the NFL.  Can't wait!

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                              @flugel said:

                              Yeah, I think we can 2 very good Tackles by the time we're done with our 2nd pick.  There's a lot of good OGs in this draft as well as college OTs that will play OG in the NFL.  Can't wait!

                              My concern isn't who is available. It's that the Browns lack the tact to sift through who is available to find the best talent. 

                              Berry, with all of his Ivy League ability, has a proven track record of not being able to find the best football player to fill the need. 

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                                Yeah, I think we can 2 very good Tackles by the time we're done with our 2nd pick.  There's a lot of good OGs in this draft as well as college OTs that will play OG in the NFL.  Can't wait!

                                My concern isn't who is available. It's that the Browns lack the tact to sift through who is available to find the best talent. 

                                Berry, with all of his Ivy League ability, has a proven track record of not being able to find the best football player to fill the need. 

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                                Berry, with all of his Ivy League ability, has a proven track record of not being able to find the best football player to fill the need. 

                                That's certainly true of his ability to draft good offensive linemen.

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                                  Yeah, I think we can 2 very good Tackles by the time we're done with our 2nd pick.  There's a lot of good OGs in this draft as well as college OTs that will play OG in the NFL.  Can't wait!

                                  My concern isn't who is available. It's that the Browns lack the tact to sift through who is available to find the best talent. 

                                  Berry, with all of his Ivy League ability, has a proven track record of not being able to find the best football player to fill the need. 

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                                  @ap1 said:

                                  My concern isn't who is available. It's that the Browns lack the tact to sift through who is available to find the best talent. 

                                  Berry, with all of his Ivy League ability, has a proven track record of not being able to find the best football player to fill the need. 

                                  The # of great drafts have eluded him after the tremendous opportunity to learn from Howie Roseman in Philly.

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                                    First & hopefully last coffee fetcher post of the off season ☕ ? 

                                    GM Andrew Berry staffing

                                    1) Coffee fetcher ☕ Paul Depodesta moved back to baseball career.. Colorado Rockies (for those concerned)

                                    2.) After Berry's best draft of 6... Longtime (2009) Browns Director of player personal (pulls together all scouted/coaches draftee info to GM) Doughnut fetcher ?.. Dan Saganey..

                                    Takes a job with the Tennessee Titans, a few days after day 3 of Berry's best draft on April 26th 2025    

                                    3.) ? roll please..June 26th 2025.. Andrew Berry promotions of new ☕ .. ?.. chasers ?‍♂️  

                                    Browns have promoted Adam Al-Khayyal to director of player personnel after stints as director of pro scouting and assistant director of pro personnel during his 11 years with the organization.

                                    Shaun Herock has returned to the Browns as a senior college personnel advisor. He was previously a scout with the team and has also worked for the Packers, Raiders and Falcons.

                                    Happy Presidents Day ! ??

                                    (don't shoot the messenger of dream jobs of NFL coffee fetchers ☕)  

                                    Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends Team Brotherhood-"It's not about You,Me or I. It's about building We"..Hue Jackson
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                                      OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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                                      Monken has to be the one to pick/hire the coordinators.  All of the coaches have to report to the HC.  Haslam can be introduced to him upon the DC's fist day of work in the building.  

                                      The problem with the Browns is the owner and his relatives.

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                                        sadly.... we could have had John Harbaugh, who I preferred greatly.

                                        except, he had standards. Other head coaches have told the Browns "not interested".

                                        behind the scenes, the Browns control in the gm and haslam - true leaders won't go with it.

                                        https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/cleveland-browns/news/its-over-dealbreaker-kept-john-harbaugh-coaching-browns/53c75022c1107239331ed4b7

                                        "As first reported by ESPN Cleveland senior analyst Tony Grossi, Harbaugh’s "prerequisites" for taking any job are significant.

                                        A $20 million salary, a $10 million staff budget, and--the ultimate dealbreaker--final say over the 53-man roster."

                                        in short, Harbaugh wanted to pick the gm, etc. But no, the browns owner/front office clusterfook will prevail.

                                        I don't know if Monken will be a winning head coach for the Browns, but it seems that any head coach they hire will have to be a follower instead of a leader. and Monken won't be an innovator, I think. We'll see. Monken's offense failed his last year with the ratbirds, not a great look to become a head coach.

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                                          @sdbacker80 said:

                                          Are we starting two rookies on the offensive line or three? 

                                          As many as necessary.  We drafted and started 2 rookie QBs last year and 1 of them needed a step stool to see over the line of scrimmage.  Just think if we drafted an Olineman in round 3 instead of the QB. AB drafted ZERO OL in 2025. The current OL lost 14 games in 2024 and 12 games in 2025 - so I'm all for upgrading whatever is needed upfront.  Aside from that, have you looked at how many of our 2025 starting OL are FAs in 2026?   It also looks like Conklin is gone and Dawand Jones comes off his 3rd consecutive season landing on IR followed by surgery (but 390 lbs on a pogo-stick would at least be an alternative to a rookie. Warm fuzzies?)

                                          I HAVE mentioned we could add a FA like RT Braden Smith from Indy (a former 2nd round pick from Auburn).  There's probably FAs at OG we can sign to minimize the number of rookie starters or continue to use Teven Jenkins inside as needed. 

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                                          @flugel said:

                                          As many as necessary.  We drafted and started 2 rookie QBs last year and 1 of them needed a step stool to see over the line of scrimmage.  Just think if we drafted an Olineman in round 3 instead of the QB. AB drafted ZERO OL in 2025. The current OL lost 14 games in 2024 and 12 games in 2025 - so I'm all for upgrading whatever is needed upfront.  Aside from that, have you looked at how many of our 2025 starting OL are FAs in 2026?   It also looks like Conklin is gone and Dawand Jones comes off his 3rd consecutive season landing on IR followed by surgery (but 390 lbs on a pogo-stick would at least be an alternative to a rookie. Warm fuzzies?)

                                          I HAVE mentioned we could add a FA like RT Braden Smith from Indy (a former 2nd round pick from Auburn).  There's probably FAs at OG we can sign to minimize the number of rookie starters or continue to use Teven Jenkins inside as needed. 


                                          how does this sound? 

                                          Day 1 pick on a tackle.

                                          bring back teller.

                                          Day 2 pick trade for a competent tackle.  Berrys strength seems to trades.  Saw an article about Walker Little this morning.  Well documented that he doesn’t draft lineman well but you bring in someone that can play at this level. So less guesswork. 

                                          Spend Day 3 on two interior lineman. 
                                           

                                          You’ve added four lineman here. 

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