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  • @orion said:

    The thing that bothers me is that new HC's tend to want 'their' new QB.  He can't have Fernando because we won the final two games of the season...but is he wanting Simpson as the consolation prize?   Perhaps you're right and it's a smoke screen.   

    I think something none of us are considering is it isn't guaranteed that Berry is secure with his job.

    If you were a GM whose future is possibly tenuous, would you use one of the first round picks on a QB who might be seasons away from being able to produce at the NFL level, or use that pick on someone who can step in immediately and contribute? 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I think something none of us are considering is it isn't guaranteed that Berry is secure with his job.

    If you were a GM whose future is possibly tenuous, would you use one of the first round picks on a QB who might be seasons away from being able to produce at the NFL level, or use that pick on someone who can step in immediately and contribute? 

    That's a good point.  Berry has got to continue his draft hot streak.  

    And then there's the Joker of the deck...Jimmuh.  Is it possible that he's not satisfied having SheDufus (as ballpeen calls him) as the face of the team?  He's already referred to Watson as a Swing and a Miss.  And I truly doubt he's enamored with the midget.  

    You'd like to think that cooler heads would prevail.  Like, we're saddled with Watson and his contract this year.  Let's try and trade back, gain some capital that can be used next year for a QB in case neither Sanders or Watson prove to be the long term answer.  But we have a Joker for an owner, a desperate GM and a new HC.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Yes...if you think a guy is generational talent you most probably pick him.

  • As of today I’m going with either LT Caleb Lomu or Morgan Freeling with the first pick (hopefully after moving down a wee bit) and with the second first rounder WR Denzel Boston or Omar Cooper. 

  • As of today I’m going with either LT Caleb Lomu or Morgan Freeling with the first pick (hopefully after moving down a wee bit) and with the second first rounder WR Denzel Boston or Omar Cooper. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    As of today I’m going with either LT Caleb Lomu or Morgan Freeling with the first pick (hopefully after moving down a wee bit) and with the second first rounder WR Denzel Boston or Omar Cooper. 

    As our 2nd 1st rounder I'm taking the more versatile quick twitch K.C. Concepcion who also returns punts and KOs. Fills more needs and burns teams ATC.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    As of today I’m going with either LT Caleb Lomu or Morgan Freeling with the first pick (hopefully after moving down a wee bit) and with the second first rounder WR Denzel Boston or Omar Cooper. 

    As our 2nd 1st rounder I'm taking the more versatile quick twitch K.C. Concepcion who also returns punts and KOs. Fills more needs and burns teams ATC.

    @texasag1969 said:

    As our 2nd 1st rounder I'm taking the more versatile quick twitch K.C. Concepcion who also returns punts and KOs. Fills more needs and burns teams ATC.

    I'd love this.... or a guard. You know I've been on the KC bandwagon for months now. 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    As our 2nd 1st rounder I'm taking the more versatile quick twitch K.C. Concepcion who also returns punts and KOs. Fills more needs and burns teams ATC.

    I'd love this.... or a guard. You know I've been on the KC bandwagon for months now. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'd love this.... or a guard. You know I've been on the KC bandwagon for months now. 

    Agree with you and Aggies. I want more BIG bastards than Cher for obviously different reasons. The good thing about OG is there is an abundance and you can usually draft good ones in rounds 2-5.  Think about it - College Centers or Offensive Tackles (ie: Joel Bitonio &  Super Bowl Champion STARTING RG for the Rams  - Austin Corbett who was later extended by Carolina to remain a starter there as well) can also be drafted to play OG expanding the supply inventory.  Right now, draft analysts are still bringing up that Miami of O-you thought I was gonna say Ohio but it's of Florida's Francis Mauigoa could kick inside due to shorter arms.  Would have been nice to see how he moves laterally at the combines but he's a 1st round lock anyway so not necessary.  The guy can RUN block and if he has Tackle on his outside shoulder - it sure lessens the ergonomics and space required for easier pass pro.  NOW, is he a better OG than Penn State's Olaivavega Iaone or Oregano's Emmanuel Pregnon? (That's not a speelcheker mistake just me being an overcaffeinated ID-10T). At 348 lbs the quick footed Iaone could really John Deere tractor up some inside running room.  That wouldn't suck at all.  We need Guards and Tackles.  

  • @dutch-oven said:

    As of today I’m going with either LT Caleb Lomu or Morgan Freeling with the first pick (hopefully after moving down a wee bit) and with the second first rounder WR Denzel Boston or Omar Cooper. 

    As our 2nd 1st rounder I'm taking the more versatile quick twitch K.C. Concepcion who also returns punts and KOs. Fills more needs and burns teams ATC.

    @texasag1969 said:

    As our 2nd 1st rounder I'm taking the more versatile quick twitch K.C. Concepcion who also returns punts and KOs. Fills more needs and burns teams ATC.

    It would be nice to put his speed on the perimeter of our passing game -or- as that return man who can restore the electricity Eric Metcalf and Josh Cribbs treated us to in the return game here...

  • @dutch-oven said:

    As of today I’m going with either LT Caleb Lomu or Morgan Freeling with the first pick (hopefully after moving down a wee bit) and with the second first rounder WR Denzel Boston or Omar Cooper. 

    As our 2nd 1st rounder I'm taking the more versatile quick twitch K.C. Concepcion who also returns punts and KOs. Fills more needs and burns teams ATC.

    @texasag1969 said:

    As our 2nd 1st rounder I'm taking the more versatile quick twitch K.C. Concepcion

    Ya know, I've been fearing all along that we're going to wind up with him....and I don't really want him.  He had 7 drops this season.  He did however, run a good gauntlet at the combine...but he didn't run the 40.  

  • @dutch-oven said:

    The Rams would be a fantastic landing spot for him. 

    Simpson looks like Cleveland  image.png.70d7e8455ad1447bed3e7a1cff9b374c.png

    Klubnik looks like LA               image.png.e51f0865acd3858f7317a4e490118785.png

    @orion said:

    Simpson looks like Cleveland  image.png.70d7e8455ad1447bed3e7a1cff9b374c.png

    Klubnik looks like LA               image.png.e51f0865acd3858f7317a4e490118785.png

    LA is beanie and a hoodie.  He’s got the chain though he’s close.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    As our 2nd 1st rounder I'm taking the more versatile quick twitch K.C. Concepcion

    Ya know, I've been fearing all along that we're going to wind up with him....and I don't really want him.  He had 7 drops this season.  He did however, run a good gauntlet at the combine...but he didn't run the 40.  

    @orion said:

    Ya know, I've been fearing all along that we're going to wind up with him....and I don't really want him.  He had 7 drops this season.  He did however, run a good gauntlet at the combine...but he didn't run the 40.  

    Agree.  I like so many others and many rated behind Concepcion.  Cooper, Branch and a couple sleepers Antonio Williams ( former OSU RB) and CJ Daniels from the U.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    As our 2nd 1st rounder I'm taking the more versatile quick twitch K.C. Concepcion

    Ya know, I've been fearing all along that we're going to wind up with him....and I don't really want him.  He had 7 drops this season.  He did however, run a good gauntlet at the combine...but he didn't run the 40.  

    @orion said:

    Ya know, I've been fearing all along that we're going to wind up with him....and I don't really want him.  He had 7 drops this season.  He did however, run a good gauntlet at the combine...but he didn't run the 40.  

    You should be on the Browns scouting team. You'd fit perfectly with the ones who've been picking our WRs the last 10years.?

  • @orion said:

    Ya know, I've been fearing all along that we're going to wind up with him....and I don't really want him.  He had 7 drops this season.  He did however, run a good gauntlet at the combine...but he didn't run the 40.  

    You should be on the Browns scouting team. You'd fit perfectly with the ones who've been picking our WRs the last 10years.?

    @texasag1969 said:

    You should be on the Browns scouting team. You'd fit perfectly with the ones who've been picking our WRs the last 10years.?

    Ray Farmer was more than 10 years ago right?   Well I'd be better than him!   🙂 

    Sorry bro.  But all along I've felt that he's the consolation prize that you wind up with because all of the exceptional 1st round WR's are already picked.  I've envisioned us taking OT at 6 and then having to take him at 24.  When I really want Tate or Tyson,  followed by Boston & Lemon.  But they'll all be gone by pick 24, so I'd almost prefer that we go in a different direction at 24 (maybe OL again) and then try and land Chris Brazzell.  (he ran the 40,  pretty fast)

    i hope your guy turns out to be good.  That they all turn out to be good.  Unless the Steelers draft them.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    You should be on the Browns scouting team. You'd fit perfectly with the ones who've been picking our WRs the last 10years.?

    Ray Farmer was more than 10 years ago right?   Well I'd be better than him!   🙂 

    Sorry bro.  But all along I've felt that he's the consolation prize that you wind up with because all of the exceptional 1st round WR's are already picked.  I've envisioned us taking OT at 6 and then having to take him at 24.  When I really want Tate or Tyson,  followed by Boston & Lemon.  But they'll all be gone by pick 24, so I'd almost prefer that we go in a different direction at 24 (maybe OL again) and then try and land Chris Brazzell.  (he ran the 40,  pretty fast)

    i hope your guy turns out to be good.  That they all turn out to be good.  Unless the Steelers draft them.

    @orion said:

    Ray Farmer was more than 10 years ago right?   Well I'd be better than him!   🙂 

    Sorry bro.  But all along I've felt that he's the consolation prize that you wind up with because all of the exceptional 1st round WR's are already picked.  I've envisioned us taking OT at 6 and then having to take him at 24.  When I really want Tate or Tyson,  followed by Boston & Lemon.  But they'll all be gone by pick 24, so I'd almost prefer that we go in a different direction at 24 (maybe OL again) and then try and land Chris Brazzell.  (he ran the 40,  pretty fast)

    i hope your guy turns out to be good.  That they all turn out to be good.  Unless the Steelers draft them.

    Maybe some team will appreciate someone who is more than just a WR. 

  • @orion said:

    Ya know, I've been fearing all along that we're going to wind up with him....and I don't really want him.  He had 7 drops this season.  He did however, run a good gauntlet at the combine...but he didn't run the 40.  

    Agree.  I like so many others and many rated behind Concepcion.  Cooper, Branch and a couple sleepers Antonio Williams ( former OSU RB) and CJ Daniels from the U.

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Agree.  I like so many others and many rated behind Concepcion.  Cooper, Branch and a couple sleepers Antonio Williams ( former OSU RB) and CJ Daniels from the U.

    Here's a barely mentioned WR from UConn I found on Draft Buzz:

    Skyler Bell w/ 101 Receptions, 1278 Yards, 13 Rec TDs, 12.7 Rec Avg, 84.7 Draft Rating (just behind Zach Branch at an 84.9 rating)

    Bell's Combine Goodies: Height 6'0", Weight 192 lbs - 4.40 Forty, 41" Vertical Jump, 11'1" Broad Jump

  • Here's another WR I like, probably will be available at the top of the 2nd round

  • So my short list (as of now) of WRs I like for the #24 first rounder and the second round pick is:

    KC Concepcion, Texas A&M
    Denzel Boston, Washington
    Omar Cooper Jr, Indiana
    Germie Bernard, Alabama 

  • I saw Cameron Thomas went to the Falcons.  That’s disappointing I thought he played well here. 

  • I saw Cameron Thomas went to the Falcons.  That’s disappointing I thought he played well here. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    I saw Cameron Thomas went to the Falcons.  That’s disappointing I thought he played well here. 

    Apparently Stefanski agrees with you.

  • Jack Stool TE  to the Browns one year deal.  Poops on the idea of Njoku coming back