Draft so you can win more games
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Fano or Tate at 6. I'm all in on that.
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This is one of those times of the year when we all miss OL input from Bruce (Tour). Nobody sleeps well without his draft day opinion on what the Browns should do when they have been so poor at OL picks. ?
We’ve lost a few really good guys on here over the last few years.
I can think of a few people on here that would have much better replacements.
We’ve lost a few really good guys on here over the last few years.
I can think of a few people on here that would have much better replacements.
Believe it or not, it's been going downhill since even before you arrived. Having said that, it's been tough seeing guys like Stan, Tour, Gipper and MJP pass away. Before that Jimmy Deetz. It also sucks not having Zombo here; because he was a blast when he didn't have to somewhat behave as a Board Mod when Stan took it over. Before all that in the AOL days I said I guess I gotta tone it down because I got 3 TOS violations in my 1st week. I'll never forget Stan's response "this guy's a keeper!"
The old board used to meet up at tailgates which included some of us out-of-state fans coming in for weekends with or without the wives or girlfriends. Once that got going the 1st couple years the Browns were back in business - it expanded to guys coming in from the other side of the Atlantic Ocean that really knew how to party. What could go wrong?
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hmm...no Fano visit...
He was at the Combine doing some of the drills Coached by the Browns. I wonder if he was one of the guys the Browns interviewed in Indy. If so, the visit may not be necessary. If not, they could be wearing the "we're not interested in him" poker face via the no visit/interview...
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Fano or Tate at 6. I'm all in on that.
Fano or Tate at 6. I'm all in on that.
or blake miller
Something worth mentioning - when putting your best 5 on the field, Tytus Howard wasn't brought in to *not be a starter. And, to keep relative strength of the line intact, he's best suited to stay at RT.
So either elaborate smoke screen (unlikely) or the Browns saying they're going to focus on LT's.
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so, if Dallas called, and wanted to trade up to our six pick.....
giving us their two first round picks at 12 and 20 right before the steelers pick at 21....
good idea or very bad idea to trade down?
probably not going to happen, since they don't have a second or a third round pick round pick this year, but...
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so, if Dallas called, and wanted to trade up to our six pick.....
giving us their two first round picks at 12 and 20 right before the steelers pick at 21....
good idea or very bad idea to trade down?
probably not going to happen, since they don't have a second or a third round pick round pick this year, but...
so, if Dallas called, and wanted to trade up to our six pick.....
giving us their two first round picks at 12 and 20 right before the steelers pick at 21....
good idea or very bad idea to trade down?
probably not going to happen, since they don't have a second or a third round pick round pick this year, but...
Good idea. And makes sense for them if they want Sonny Styles.
12, 2nd this year and 2nd next year for 6. Gives us a slight advantage on the charts.
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so, if Dallas called, and wanted to trade up to our six pick.....
giving us their two first round picks at 12 and 20 right before the steelers pick at 21....
good idea or very bad idea to trade down?
probably not going to happen, since they don't have a second or a third round pick round pick this year, but...
Good idea. And makes sense for them if they want Sonny Styles.
12, 2nd this year and 2nd next year for 6. Gives us a slight advantage on the charts.
Good idea. And makes sense for them if they want Sonny Styles.
12, 2nd this year and 2nd next year for 6. Gives us a slight advantage on the charts.
I looked at the draft pick trade points chart, and their two first rounders were more than enough points for the six pick. But, the bears traded their entire draft one year, so.......lol
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Dallas, without a 2nd round pick, should stay right where they are and pick two 1st round players.
Dallas, without a 2nd round pick, should stay right where they are and pick two 1st round players.
I think they will stay, they don't have a third round pick either, unless I missed it.
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Fano or Tate at 6. I'm all in on that.
or blake miller
Something worth mentioning - when putting your best 5 on the field, Tytus Howard wasn't brought in to *not be a starter. And, to keep relative strength of the line intact, he's best suited to stay at RT.
So either elaborate smoke screen (unlikely) or the Browns saying they're going to focus on LT's.
Something worth mentioning - when putting your best 5 on the field, Tytus Howard wasn't brought in to *not be a starter. And, to keep relative strength of the line intact, he's best suited to stay at RT.
So either elaborate smoke screen (unlikely) or the Browns saying they're going to focus on LT's.
I know it did not work with wills was it just injuries or he just did not play with any heart ? so how hard is it to switch from RT to LT ?
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hmm...no Fano visit...
or blake miller
Good Catch ! Looks like..
Reese/Fano/ Miller/Mauigoa & a few others...
Had Formal Combine Interviews with the Browns at Indy per this SI..
Prospect
Position
School
Combine
Top-30
Private
David Bailey
Edge
Texas Tech
Yes
Arvell Reese
Edge
Ohio State
Formal
R Mason Thomas
Edge
Oklahoma
Yes
Micah Morris
Guard
Georgia
Formal
Markel Bell
Offensive Tackle
Miami
Formal
Yes
Spencer Fano
Offensive Tackle
Utah
Formal
Monroe Freeling
Offensive Tackle
Georgia
Formal
Yes
Caleb Lomu
Offensive Tackle
Utah
Formal
Yes
Francis Mauigoa
Offensive Tackle
Miami
Formal
Blake Miller
Offensive Tackle
Clemson
Formal
Kadyn Proctor
Offensive Tackle
Alabama
Formal
Yes
Drew Allar
Quarterback
Penn State
Informal
Carson Beck
Quarterback
Miami
Formal
Behren Morton
Quarterback
Texas Tech
Formal
Ty Simpson
Quarterback
Alabama
Formal
Yes
Cash Jones
Running back
Georgia
Yes
Emmanuel McNeil-Warren
Safety
Toledo
Yes
Oscar Delp
Tight End
Georgia
Formal
Yes
Kenyon Sadiq
Tight End
Oregon
Yes
Eli Stowers
Tight End
Vanderbilt
Formal
Chris Bell
Wide Receiver
Louisville
Yes
Germie Bernard
Wide Receiver
Alabama
Yes
Denzel Boston
Wide Receiver
Washington
Formal
Yes
KC Concepcion
Wide Receiver
Texas A&M
Yes
Omar Cooper Jr.
Wide Receiver
Indiana
Yes
Makai Lemon
Wide Receiver
USC
Formal
Yes
Carnell Tate
Wide Receiver
Ohio State
Formal
Yes
Jordyn Tyson
Wide Receiver
Arizona State
Formal
Yes
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Good idea. And makes sense for them if they want Sonny Styles.
12, 2nd this year and 2nd next year for 6. Gives us a slight advantage on the charts.
I looked at the draft pick trade points chart, and their two first rounders were more than enough points for the six pick. But, the bears traded their entire draft one year, so.......lol
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I think they will stay, they don't have a third round pick either, unless I missed it.
They do. Todd McShay floated the trade idea of the Browns give 6th
We get the 12th, Cowboys third round pick and Cowboys 2nd round pick next year.
This trade allows the Cowboys to get an elite defender (Styles, Downs) keep the 20th to add a corner. From here I would trade out of 20 if I were the cowboys get more picks and add a corner in the second.
We get draft capital to add a QB in 2027
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Fano or Tate at 6. I'm all in on that.
or blake miller
Something worth mentioning - when putting your best 5 on the field, Tytus Howard wasn't brought in to *not be a starter. And, to keep relative strength of the line intact, he's best suited to stay at RT.
So either elaborate smoke screen (unlikely) or the Browns saying they're going to focus on LT's.
Something worth mentioning - when putting your best 5 on the field, Tytus Howard wasn't brought in to *not be a starter. And, to keep relative strength of the line intact, he's best suited to stay at RT.
So either elaborate smoke screen (unlikely) or the Browns saying they're going to focus on LT's.
True - this was a move to give the Browns insurance at these 3 positions RT, LG, RG - Ready for this? Just like his previous team. Below shows how many snaps he played at each position as well as how well he ranked:
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Something worth mentioning - when putting your best 5 on the field, Tytus Howard wasn't brought in to *not be a starter. And, to keep relative strength of the line intact, he's best suited to stay at RT.
So either elaborate smoke screen (unlikely) or the Browns saying they're going to focus on LT's.
I know it did not work with wills was it just injuries or he just did not play with any heart ? so how hard is it to switch from RT to LT ?
I know it did not work with wills was it just injuries or he just did not play with any heart ?
Plenty of reasons. Some are more subjective than others. But the objective reasons tie in below.
so how hard is it to switch from RT to LT ?
Depends on who you ask. But I'm a big believer that you don't try to fight the natural neurology of someone's kick, set & prefered guide hand usage.
Not that players can't switch sides and find success. You also have the rare players, like switch hitters at the plate, who just seem so fluid on either side. I think there's a certain bravado to it as well for those who say it's easy, or the transition was easy for them. Players hate acknowledging self weaknesses. I.E. cornerbacks who only play one side of the ball. I only ever met one dude who straight up asked if we could play L/R CB because he only felt comfortable playing LCB. It's a pride thing, but I knew more corners felt that way.
Kinestetics is a fascinating science. Right handed? Read a sentence on a piece of paper, then write out that same sentence underneath it. You didn't have to think about the 'how' or technique behind your writing, you just did.
Do that same thing, but left handed. Now you've added the element of actually having to *think about 'how' you're going to write the words out. That alone adds another element, another layer of cognitive processing which may add to the, borrowing a technical term, latency, (delay) of 'thought'-->physical action.
So for me, I want the player whose transition to the NFL isn't made more difficult by having to add in those further cognitive processes. I want the natural reaction, the "without thinking" only made possible from 10s of thousands of hours doing something.
I also penciled in Howard as our RT starter for 2 seasons. RT is his primary and best spot. So moving him to LT, then inserting a rookie, feels like I potentially weaken 2 positions along the most unique unit in all of football (OL)
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so, if Dallas called, and wanted to trade up to our six pick.....
giving us their two first round picks at 12 and 20 right before the steelers pick at 21....
good idea or very bad idea to trade down?
probably not going to happen, since they don't have a second or a third round pick round pick this year, but...
Good idea. And makes sense for them if they want Sonny Styles.
12, 2nd this year and 2nd next year for 6. Gives us a slight advantage on the charts.
Good idea. And makes sense for them if they want Sonny Styles.
12, 2nd this year and 2nd next year for 6. Gives us a slight advantage on the charts.
Here's Mel Kiper's latest Mock Draft from earlier today (DON'T FORGET HE'S A RATBIRD FAN) doing the trade w/ Dallas where the Browns end up with pick# 12, #20, #24. For the most part I've enjoyed him over the years even with that flaw in all caps above. This time though? This is exactly what our division rivals would want Cleveland to do to themselves except for Denzel Boston:
Who wants a LT addicted to the couch and food? The corner he selected missed the 2025 season with an ACL injury so LSU CB Mansoor Delane would be a much safer choice right? Dane Brugler's idea of drafting Miami LT Markell Bell in round 3 or 4 could be a much wiser selection especially if Dawand Jones begins the year as the starter at LT...
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I know it did not work with wills was it just injuries or he just did not play with any heart ?
Plenty of reasons. Some are more subjective than others. But the objective reasons tie in below.
so how hard is it to switch from RT to LT ?
Depends on who you ask. But I'm a big believer that you don't try to fight the natural neurology of someone's kick, set & prefered guide hand usage.
Not that players can't switch sides and find success. You also have the rare players, like switch hitters at the plate, who just seem so fluid on either side. I think there's a certain bravado to it as well for those who say it's easy, or the transition was easy for them. Players hate acknowledging self weaknesses. I.E. cornerbacks who only play one side of the ball. I only ever met one dude who straight up asked if we could play L/R CB because he only felt comfortable playing LCB. It's a pride thing, but I knew more corners felt that way.
Kinestetics is a fascinating science. Right handed? Read a sentence on a piece of paper, then write out that same sentence underneath it. You didn't have to think about the 'how' or technique behind your writing, you just did.
Do that same thing, but left handed. Now you've added the element of actually having to *think about 'how' you're going to write the words out. That alone adds another element, another layer of cognitive processing which may add to the, borrowing a technical term, latency, (delay) of 'thought'-->physical action.
So for me, I want the player whose transition to the NFL isn't made more difficult by having to add in those further cognitive processes. I want the natural reaction, the "without thinking" only made possible from 10s of thousands of hours doing something.
I also penciled in Howard as our RT starter for 2 seasons. RT is his primary and best spot. So moving him to LT, then inserting a rookie, feels like I potentially weaken 2 positions along the most unique unit in all of football (OL)
Plenty of reasons. Some are more subjective than others. But the objective reasons tie in below.
Depends on who you ask. But I'm a big believer that you don't try to fight the natural neurology of someone's kick, set & prefered guide hand usage.
Not that players can't switch sides and find success. You also have the rare players, like switch hitters at the plate, who just seem so fluid on either side. I think there's a certain bravado to it as well for those who say it's easy, or the transition was easy for them. Players hate acknowledging self weaknesses. I.E. cornerbacks who only play one side of the ball. I only ever met one dude who straight up asked if we could play L/R CB because he only felt comfortable playing LCB. It's a pride thing, but I knew more corners felt that way.
Kinestetics is a fascinating science. Right handed? Read a sentence on a piece of paper, then write out that same sentence underneath it. You didn't have to think about the 'how' or technique behind your writing, you just did.
Do that same thing, but left handed. Now you've added the element of actually having to *think about 'how' you're going to write the words out. That alone adds another element, another layer of cognitive processing which may add to the, borrowing a technical term, latency, (delay) of 'thought'-->physical action.
So for me, I want the player whose transition to the NFL isn't made more difficult by having to add in those further cognitive processes. I want the natural reaction, the "without thinking" only made possible from 10s of thousands of hours doing something.
I also penciled in Howard as our RT starter for 2 seasons. RT is his primary and best spot. So moving him to LT, then inserting a rookie, feels like I potentially weaken 2 positions along the most unique unit in all of football (OL)
ok then, who is worthy of a first round pick to play LT ? seems to me besides Blake or that kid from Utah all others should be on the other side of the line
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Plenty of reasons. Some are more subjective than others. But the objective reasons tie in below.
Depends on who you ask. But I'm a big believer that you don't try to fight the natural neurology of someone's kick, set & prefered guide hand usage.
Not that players can't switch sides and find success. You also have the rare players, like switch hitters at the plate, who just seem so fluid on either side. I think there's a certain bravado to it as well for those who say it's easy, or the transition was easy for them. Players hate acknowledging self weaknesses. I.E. cornerbacks who only play one side of the ball. I only ever met one dude who straight up asked if we could play L/R CB because he only felt comfortable playing LCB. It's a pride thing, but I knew more corners felt that way.
Kinestetics is a fascinating science. Right handed? Read a sentence on a piece of paper, then write out that same sentence underneath it. You didn't have to think about the 'how' or technique behind your writing, you just did.
Do that same thing, but left handed. Now you've added the element of actually having to *think about 'how' you're going to write the words out. That alone adds another element, another layer of cognitive processing which may add to the, borrowing a technical term, latency, (delay) of 'thought'-->physical action.
So for me, I want the player whose transition to the NFL isn't made more difficult by having to add in those further cognitive processes. I want the natural reaction, the "without thinking" only made possible from 10s of thousands of hours doing something.
I also penciled in Howard as our RT starter for 2 seasons. RT is his primary and best spot. So moving him to LT, then inserting a rookie, feels like I potentially weaken 2 positions along the most unique unit in all of football (OL)
ok then, who is worthy of a first round pick to play LT ? seems to me besides Blake or that kid from Utah all others should be on the other side of the line
ok then, who is worthy of a first round pick to play LT ? seems to me besides Blake or that kid from Utah all others should be on the other side of the line
Can't fully answer that yet. Might be none.
- I want no part of Proctor.
- I'm bullish on switching tackles to different sides.
- I was emailed some more Caleb Lomu film and now he's falling down my board. Athletically he's all there. Technically, he has quite a long way to go. (Set, Hand & pass pro strike sync)
Edit: Maybe that's the case with the Browns brass. Maybe they're seeing the same things? So that means their answer could be.
- Draft the most developed RT and transition him to LT.
- Draft RT. Kick Tytus Howard over to LT to hold down the point while they draft LT of the future in later rounds 2026, or early-ish 2027.
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