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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    @orion said:

    It seems I can't fling a dead cat without it landing on an article praising our Concepcion pick.  I wanted Boston with that pick....and was like, Oh well, OK, it's a WR...that's what we need.  But it seems everyone likes him more than Boston.  -  Of course, we ended up with both, which is incredible, but all of the pundits love Concepcion.  I was never a big fan of KC and the Sunshine Band....but I'm looking forward to KC and Sunshine Browns.  🙂  

    Concepcion is potentially the more exciting WR, I'm guessing that's why he's getting more love.

    I liked KCC during the season and might have been the first on here to mention him as a potential second round prospect (early in the season I also suggested Notre Dame's Jeremiah Love as a second round pick. That take became very cold when it became obvious he was going to be a top 5 pick) but as the draft process intensified I ended up liking Boston or Cooper Jr better, which is why I was kind of 'meh' when they used the #24 pick on KCC. 

    Then they got Boston, and I LOVE the idea of KCC and Boston together. Perfect compliments, if Boston can get open on a regular basis. As much as we talk about KCC and his drop rate, there's a bit of apprehension from me about Boston - I hope he doesn't end up being another Cedric Tillman. Injuries have hampered Tillman, and that's what we focus on - but even when healthy I get the impression that he struggles to get open, and that's his biggest obstacle. 

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    @dutch-oven said:

    there's a bit of apprehension from me about Boston - I hope he doesn't end up being another Cedric Tillman. Injuries have hampered Tillman, and that's what we focus on - but even when healthy I get the impression that he struggles to get open, and that's his biggest obstacle. 

    Yeah, you said out loud what the back of my brain has been warning me about getting too optimistic about Boston.  He's not extremely fast or quick...he's just great at catching the ball.  KC seems to be able to get open and I'm sure that's why everyone liked him more than Boston.  I agree...and I'm hoping that he's not another Tillman, who's a one or two catch a game player at this point.

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      Hopefully, not Lawyer Tillman either…. Browns seem to draft in certain patterns…… KC’s agents crafted a great letter, much like Nick Chubb’s. Hopefully, we got a great player……..

      and as long as the NFL and it’s front offices have to say we got an even better person, you know it’s trouble time.

      edited to say in general drafting not KC in particular, who doesn’t like a good steak on a Friday night?

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        Hopefully, not Lawyer Tillman either…. Browns seem to draft in certain patterns…… KC’s agents crafted a great letter, much like Nick Chubb’s. Hopefully, we got a great player……..

        and as long as the NFL and it’s front offices have to say we got an even better person, you know it’s trouble time.

        edited to say in general drafting not KC in particular, who doesn’t like a good steak on a Friday night?

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        @nick-garrett said:

        Hopefully, not Lawyer Tillman either…. Browns seem to draft in certain patterns…… KC’s agents crafted a great letter, much like Nick Chubb’s. Hopefully, we got a great player……..

        and as long as the NFL and it’s front offices have to say we got an even better person, you know it’s trouble time.

        edited to say in general drafting not KC in particular, who doesn’t like a good steak on a Friday night?

        Lawyer Tillmans problems were injuries... He wasn't that bad honestly. Just never got to develop his skills.. he was one heck of a big physical specimen... unfortunate..

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          @orion said:

          It seems I can't fling a dead cat without it landing on an article praising our Concepcion pick.  I wanted Boston with that pick....and was like, Oh well, OK, it's a WR...that's what we need.  But it seems everyone likes him more than Boston.  -  Of course, we ended up with both, which is incredible, but all of the pundits love Concepcion.  I was never a big fan of KC and the Sunshine Band....but I'm looking forward to KC and Sunshine Browns.  🙂  

          Concepcion is potentially the more exciting WR, I'm guessing that's why he's getting more love.

          I liked KCC during the season and might have been the first on here to mention him as a potential second round prospect (early in the season I also suggested Notre Dame's Jeremiah Love as a second round pick. That take became very cold when it became obvious he was going to be a top 5 pick) but as the draft process intensified I ended up liking Boston or Cooper Jr better, which is why I was kind of 'meh' when they used the #24 pick on KCC. 

          Then they got Boston, and I LOVE the idea of KCC and Boston together. Perfect compliments, if Boston can get open on a regular basis. As much as we talk about KCC and his drop rate, there's a bit of apprehension from me about Boston - I hope he doesn't end up being another Cedric Tillman. Injuries have hampered Tillman, and that's what we focus on - but even when healthy I get the impression that he struggles to get open, and that's his biggest obstacle. 

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          @dutch-oven said:

          Concepcion is potentially the more exciting WR, I'm guessing that's why he's getting more love.

          I liked KCC during the season and might have been the first on here to mention him as a potential second round prospect (early in the season I also suggested Notre Dame's Jeremiah Love as a second round pick. That take became very cold when it became obvious he was going to be a top 5 pick) but as the draft process intensified I ended up liking Boston or Cooper Jr better, which is why I was kind of 'meh' when they used the #24 pick on KCC. 

          Then they got Boston, and I LOVE the idea of KCC and Boston together. Perfect compliments, if Boston can get open on a regular basis. As much as we talk about KCC and his drop rate, there's a bit of apprehension from me about Boston - I hope he doesn't end up being another Cedric Tillman. Injuries have hampered Tillman, and that's what we focus on - but even when healthy I get the impression that he struggles to get open, and that's his biggest obstacle. 

          I'm thinking exposure to national audiences was in favor of Concepcion because of how high A&M got in the rankings. That being the case, there's probably far more fans that have seen Concepcion enough to have an opinion on what they've seen.  In fact, of the 2 Draft Magazines I buy every year - Lindy's didn't even include Denzel Boston at all. 

          We can look up the stats for both. In order to have really strong opinions about either guy over the other though - isn't important to at least see them play a few games apiece to gain enough insight to explain why 1 is more preferable for the Browns?  

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            @nick-garrett said:

            Hopefully, not Lawyer Tillman either…. Browns seem to draft in certain patterns…… KC’s agents crafted a great letter, much like Nick Chubb’s. Hopefully, we got a great player……..

            and as long as the NFL and it’s front offices have to say we got an even better person, you know it’s trouble time.

            edited to say in general drafting not KC in particular, who doesn’t like a good steak on a Friday night?

            Lawyer Tillmans problems were injuries... He wasn't that bad honestly. Just never got to develop his skills.. he was one heck of a big physical specimen... unfortunate..

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            @nickers said:

            Lawyer Tillmans problems were injuries... He wasn't that bad honestly. Just never got to develop his skills.. he was one heck of a big physical specimen... unfortunate..

            Agreed Nicks!  Back then, I thought we were going to be saying/hearing a lotta "Bernie to the Attorney TOUCHDOWN CLEVELAND."   I wuz wrong...

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              @nickers said:

              Lawyer Tillmans problems were injuries... He wasn't that bad honestly. Just never got to develop his skills.. he was one heck of a big physical specimen... unfortunate..

              Agreed Nicks!  Back then, I thought we were going to be saying/hearing a lotta "Bernie to the Attorney TOUCHDOWN CLEVELAND."   I wuz wrong...

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              @flugel said:

              Agreed Nicks!  Back then, I thought we were going to be saying/hearing a lotta "Bernie to the Attorney TOUCHDOWN CLEVELAND."   I wuz wrong...

              I vaguely remember the name, but nothing regarding him playing. Didn’t we have a WR around that time from TTUN named Derrick Alexander?

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                Agreed Nicks!  Back then, I thought we were going to be saying/hearing a lotta "Bernie to the Attorney TOUCHDOWN CLEVELAND."   I wuz wrong...

                I vaguely remember the name, but nothing regarding him playing. Didn’t we have a WR around that time from TTUN named Derrick Alexander?

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                @dutch-oven said:

                I vaguely remember the name, but nothing regarding him playing. Didn’t we have a WR around that time from TTUN named Derrick Alexander?

                Yeah that was during the Bud Carson/Belichic era.... Tillman was in the Carson era... I believe Alexander was one of Bills pics along with Rico Smith and Keenan McArdell.. McArdell turned out pretty good.. the other 2 Alexander and Smith were horrible.

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                  @dutch-oven said:

                  I vaguely remember the name, but nothing regarding him playing. Didn’t we have a WR around that time from TTUN named Derrick Alexander?

                  Yeah that was during the Bud Carson/Belichic era.... Tillman was in the Carson era... I believe Alexander was one of Bills pics along with Rico Smith and Keenan McArdell.. McArdell turned out pretty good.. the other 2 Alexander and Smith were horrible.

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                  Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                  @nickers said:

                  Yeah that was during the Bud Carson/Belichic era.... Tillman was in the Carson era... I believe Alexander was one of Bills pics along with Rico Smith and Keenan McArdell.. McArdell turned out pretty good.. the other 2 Alexander and Smith were horrible.

                  I don't even remember the name Rico Smith... 

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                    OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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                    I'll never forget Derick Alexander being wide open at midfield at the very end of a game in New England (I was in the stands).  He might have been able to score.  At least get us in range for the FG.  But Nooo.  He dropped the friggin' thing.  You wanna hear the Pats fans around me all breath a sigh of relief....

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                      @nickers said:

                      Yeah that was during the Bud Carson/Belichic era.... Tillman was in the Carson era... I believe Alexander was one of Bills pics along with Rico Smith and Keenan McArdell.. McArdell turned out pretty good.. the other 2 Alexander and Smith were horrible.

                      I don't even remember the name Rico Smith... 

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                      @dutch-oven said:

                      I don't even remember the name Rico Smith... 

                      Rico wasn't around long...

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                        @flugel said:

                        Agreed Nicks!  Back then, I thought we were going to be saying/hearing a lotta "Bernie to the Attorney TOUCHDOWN CLEVELAND."   I wuz wrong...

                        I vaguely remember the name, but nothing regarding him playing. Didn’t we have a WR around that time from TTUN named Derrick Alexander?

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                        @dutch-oven said:

                        I vaguely remember the name, but nothing regarding him playing. Didn’t we have a WR around that time from TTUN named Derrick Alexander?

                        I see why you vaguely remember him. He was drafted 31st overall in 89 when the NFL only had 28 teams; so that was an 2nd round selection.  They drafted Derrick Alexander in 94 which was near the end of Tillman's injury marred career and only 2 years from wearing an ugly purple uniform for Baltimore...

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                          I remember Rico suave, was he from Texas?  

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                            I remember Rico suave, was he from Texas?  

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                            @nick-garrett said:

                            I remember Rico suave, was he from Texas?  

                            I think you are right about that... But that was 30 some years ago...

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                              Tribute video… the browns have sucked for about this long. Was that the two towers? Fix this mess Tennessee.

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                                ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                                The browns have drafted aq lot of top 3 round receiver busts.

                                How about Robiskie and Massaquoi, both in the 2nd round the same year.  Willis Adams, 1st rounder in the mid 70's.  There are a bunch more.

                                I like Boston, but he does remind me of David Bell.

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                                  Okay here the Wiki bio on Rico Smith Jr.... Uneventful career with Browns and Jets.. He was selected in the 6th round of the 92 draft. We drafted a lot of sucky WR's that year...

                                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rico_Smith

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                                    Okay here the Wiki bio on Rico Smith Jr.... Uneventful career with Browns and Jets.. He was selected in the 6th round of the 92 draft. We drafted a lot of sucky WR's that year...

                                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rico_Smith

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                                    @nickers said:

                                    Okay here the Wiki bio on Rico Smith Jr.... Uneventful career with Browns and Jets.. He was selected in the 6th round of the 92 draft. We drafted a lot of sucky WR's that year...

                                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rico_Smith

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                                    That entire draft class stunk.

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                                      @nickers said:

                                      Okay here the Wiki bio on Rico Smith Jr.... Uneventful career with Browns and Jets.. He was selected in the 6th round of the 92 draft. We drafted a lot of sucky WR's that year...

                                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rico_Smith

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                                      That entire draft class stunk.

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                                      @dutch-oven said:

                                      That entire draft class stunk.

                                      Bill Johnson was a good D lineman but we traded him to Miami... Other than that... Yeah... That draft sucked ass.. I used to call "Touchdown" Tommy Vardell "first down Tommy"... He was putrid...

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                                        Posting Browns draft lists after the 1960’s or so is just going to give kids in Cleveland depression. Can we please not do this, the Cleveland Clinic already has enough on their hands, not to mention southern UH. Tell the Houston oilers refined Tennessee Titans stole your colors.

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                                          Hopefully, we drafted Issac Bruce or Tory holt but not as British with KC royal.

                                          kc Concepcion draft night 

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