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  • @ibleedbrown said:

    Ok. Tell me why it’s a stupid analogy. You presumably have some knowledge about America’s westward expansion and the various strategies used to displace, relocate or kill the native American population. Now there’s information about the strategies Israelis are using to do the same to the Palestinian population. What are the similarities? What are the differences?

    I already did, stupid.

    There were American indian tribes who were rapists./torturers/and far, far worse. We actually heard a presentation about this from a Lakota indian. The war was started with whites because those violent indian tribes started the violence, like they did the violence to more peaceful Indian tribes.

    1. THERE IS NO "palestinian population". Just once, try to learn something. There IS NO 'PALESTINE". it was a political terrorist invention.

    1. The IDF has NEVER committed any kind of sick, twisted violence against gazans/hamas. The IDF gives out ADVANCE NOTICE to innocent Gazans to get out of harm's way. Jewish tribes have NEVER been violent attackers - they have ALWAYS been attacked, from the very beginning of recorded history, and mohammed and his vicious army on.

    2. wikiislam.net

      https://wikiislam.net › wiki › The_Massacre_of_the_Banu_Qurayzah

      The Massacre of the Banu Qurayzah - WikiIslam

      Mar 20, 2026After a siege of around 2 weeks, depending on the source, the Jews of Banu Qurayzah surrendered and entrusted their fate to a trusted intermediary from the Muslims of the tribe of 'Aws, Sa'd bin Mu'adh. Sa'd bin Mu'adh advised Muhammad to slaughter the men folk of the tribe and take the women and children as captives.

    3. Back in Time Today

      Back in Time Today

      Where nostalgia meets the present!

      https://backintimetoday.com › 8-the-most-feared-native-american-tribes-of-all-time

      8 The Most Feared Native American Tribes of All Time

      Sep 5, 2025Throughout history, certain Native American tribes earned legendary status for their unmatched warrior culture and battlefield dominance. These formidable nations fiercely defended their territories and way of life against invaders, often using innovative tactics that puzzled military leaders. From the Great Plains to the dense forests of the Northeast, these tribes developed fighting styles ...

    @calfoxwc said:

    The IDF has NEVER committed any kind of sick, twisted violence against gazans/hamas.

    My god you live in another reality...

    This is the one subject you're the most brainwashed / brain broken on. And that's saying a lot, because you're in a fantasy world on most topics

    Truly you're deranged

  • @calfoxwc said:

    The IDF has NEVER committed any kind of sick, twisted violence against gazans/hamas.

    My god you live in another reality...

    This is the one subject you're the most brainwashed / brain broken on. And that's saying a lot, because you're in a fantasy world on most topics

    Truly you're deranged

    @mld-woody said:

    ASSBIRD FART

    you are a habitual liar in discussions. Prove it or shoove it, ASSbird.

    • so, the ancient Jewish tribes were fine with just being who they were.

    • so, the vicious, "terrorist" American Indian tribes terrified other peaceful Indian tribes

    • so, read up on Banu Qurayzah, the Jewish settlement - mohammed's army beheaded hundreds of young men, etc, took women and children as slaves.

    • so, even today, Israel just wants to live in peace, and has had arabic wars against them, regularly has had vile vicious terrorist acts against them because the arabic CULTURE is to hate and kill Jews.

    • To me, it seems that the vicious violent American Indian tribes, who terrified the more peaceful American Indian tribes, were like the fake pakestinians, terrorist gazans/hamas and hezbollah.

    • To me, the peaceful American Indian tribes were like the Jewish tribes- just wanted to live in peace.

    • Americans never tortured American Indians, never took them as slaves, never beheaded, never buried them in anthills, never cut off parts of their bodies, etc et etc etc etc.

    • So, in conclusion, Israel is not the instigator of the historical violence. and the pioneers, settlers, etc were not the instigators of the violence.

    • Americans fought the attacks, not with torturing them in anthills, cutting off genitals, making sex slaves of the women, and all the other vile sick violent acts of the Indians, but defending with guns against warriors.

    • Basically, very simply for your emotional wimpiness, the westward Americans were attacked by violent tribes and responded.

    • Basically, very simply for your emotional wimpiness, the IDF is defending against entrenched vile, sick and twisted terorrists in gaza and Lebannon because that is where the terrorists keep striking from. Not adventuring westward to move and expand, but to just STOP THE VICIOUS ATTACKS.

    • Basically, you are too ignorant, and you emote rather than critically think about anything.

    @calfoxwc said:

    • so, the ancient Jewish tribes were fine with just being who they were.

    • so, the vicious, "terrorist" American Indian tribes terrified other peaceful Indian tribes

    • so, read up on Banu Qurayzah, the Jewish settlement - mohammed's army beheaded hundreds of young men, etc, took women and children as slaves.

    • so, even today, Israel just wants to live in peace, and has had arabic wars against them, regularly has had vile vicious terrorist acts against them because the arabic CULTURE is to hate and kill Jews.

    • To me, it seems that the vicious violent American Indian tribes, who terrified the more peaceful American Indian tribes, were like the fake pakestinians, terrorist gazans/hamas and hezbollah.

    • To me, the peaceful American Indian tribes were like the Jewish tribes- just wanted to live in peace.

    • Americans never tortured American Indians, never took them as slaves, never beheaded, never buried them in anthills, never cut off parts of their bodies, etc et etc etc etc.

    • So, in conclusion, Israel is not the instigator of the historical violence. and the pioneers, settlers, etc were not the instigators of the violence.

    • Americans fought the attacks, not with torturing them in anthills, cutting off genitals, making sex slaves of the women, and all the other vile sick violent acts of the Indians, but defending with guns against warriors.

    • Basically, very simply for your emotional wimpiness, the westward Americans were attacked by violent tribes and responded.

    • Basically, very simply for your emotional wimpiness, the IDF is defending against entrenched vile, sick and twisted terorrists in gaza and Lebannon because that is where the terrorists keep striking from. Not adventuring westward to move and expand, but to just STOP THE VICIOUS ATTACKS.

    • Basically, you are too ignorant, and you emote rather than critically think about anything.

    That’s a lot of words but doesn’t really answer what l was asking.

    If you want to work with the concept of some native American tribes being more violent than others, we can equate that to some Palestinians being more violent than others.

    But if a group of Palestinians attacks a group of Israelis, why not just attack that group and leave the rest of the Palestinians alone? To use your analogy, that’s like a group of Apache attacking white settlers, and in response the settlers attack the Apache, Cherokee and Miami Indians.

    I can accept that some tribes were more violent than others, but they all basically got similar treatment during westward expansion from white settlers.

    I also don’t know what to do with your “there are no Palestinians” schtick. What would you prefer we call the 2 million non-Jewish people whose families have lived there for centuries?

  • @mld-woody said:

    ASSBIRD FART

    you are a habitual liar in discussions. Prove it or shoove it, ASSbird.

    @calfoxwc said:

    you are a habitual liar in discussions. Prove it or shoove it, ASSbird.

    There is proof in the OP. It’s boots on the ground reporting with plenty of video evidence.

  • you are full of political weenie garbage. I explained the difference,

    you don't like differences when you make your shallow, ignorant comparisons.

    Israel is DEFENDING THEIR OFFICIAL HOME TURF.

    The pioneers etc were moving west, to start new lives in new lands, and the violent American Indian tribes

    went after them. The violent American Indian tribes went after OTHER American Indian Tribes.

    Israel is NOT "going out west" - they have a right to defend themselves.

    damn, you are stupid - you don't even try to be legit in discussions, and you apparently intentionally

    attribute false narratives to anything any of us post.

  • you are full of political weenie garbage. I explained the difference,

    you don't like differences when you make your shallow, ignorant comparisons.

    Israel is DEFENDING THEIR OFFICIAL HOME TURF.

    The pioneers etc were moving west, to start new lives in new lands, and the violent American Indian tribes

    went after them. The violent American Indian tribes went after OTHER American Indian Tribes.

    Israel is NOT "going out west" - they have a right to defend themselves.

    damn, you are stupid - you don't even try to be legit in discussions, and you apparently intentionally

    attribute false narratives to anything any of us post.

    @calfoxwc said:

    you are full of political weenie garbage. I explained the difference,

    you don't like differences when you make your shallow, ignorant comparisons.

    Israel is DEFENDING THEIR OFFICIAL HOME TURF.

    The pioneers etc were moving west, to start new lives in new lands, and the violent American Indian tribes

    went after them. The violent American Indian tribes went after OTHER American Indian Tribes.

    Israel is NOT "going out west" - they have a right to defend themselves.

    damn, you are stupid - you don't even try to be legit in discussions, and you apparently intentionally

    attribute false narratives to anything any of us post.

    Israelis are expanding in to Palestinian territory. That’s a known thing. I thought you were aware. They are expanding in to territory that’s supposed to be legally owned by Palestinians.

    That’s not even the part l was looking to discuss. It was more the strategies they are using to take over those territories and the similarities to what white settlers did when taking over native American territories.

    Killing their livestock. Intimidation techniques. Restricting their movement. There are plenty of similarities.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    you are full of political weenie garbage. I explained the difference,

    you don't like differences when you make your shallow, ignorant comparisons.

    Israel is DEFENDING THEIR OFFICIAL HOME TURF.

    The pioneers etc were moving west, to start new lives in new lands, and the violent American Indian tribes

    went after them. The violent American Indian tribes went after OTHER American Indian Tribes.

    Israel is NOT "going out west" - they have a right to defend themselves.

    damn, you are stupid - you don't even try to be legit in discussions, and you apparently intentionally

    attribute false narratives to anything any of us post.

    Israelis are expanding in to Palestinian territory. That’s a known thing. I thought you were aware. They are expanding in to territory that’s supposed to be legally owned by Palestinians.

    That’s not even the part l was looking to discuss. It was more the strategies they are using to take over those territories and the similarities to what white settlers did when taking over native American territories.

    Killing their livestock. Intimidation techniques. Restricting their movement. There are plenty of similarities.

    @ibleedbrown said:

    Israelis are expanding in to Palestinian territory. That’s a known thing. I thought you were aware. They are expanding in to territory that’s supposed to be legally owned by Palestinians.

    That’s not even the part l was looking to discuss. It was more the strategies they are using to take over those territories and the similarities to what white settlers did when taking over native American territories.

    Killing their livestock. Intimidation techniques. Restricting their movement. There are plenty of similarities.

    Cal only knows what his echo chamber feeds him

  • @ibleedbrown said:

    Israelis are expanding in to Palestinian territory. That’s a known thing. I thought you were aware. They are expanding in to territory that’s supposed to be legally owned by Palestinians.

    That’s not even the part l was looking to discuss. It was more the strategies they are using to take over those territories and the similarities to what white settlers did when taking over native American territories.

    Killing their livestock. Intimidation techniques. Restricting their movement. There are plenty of similarities.

    Cal only knows what his echo chamber feeds him

    @mld-woody said:

    Cal only knows what his echo chamber feeds him

    Clearly. Somehow l thought we were not necessarily on the same page, but maybe in the same chapter.

    Instead l’m getting “The pioneers etc were moving west, to start new lives in new lands, and the violent American Indian tribes went after them.”

    It’s funny how groups of people tend to fight back when someone else tries to take their land.

  • @mld-woody said:

    Cal only knows what his echo chamber feeds him

    Clearly. Somehow l thought we were not necessarily on the same page, but maybe in the same chapter.

    Instead l’m getting “The pioneers etc were moving west, to start new lives in new lands, and the violent American Indian tribes went after them.”

    It’s funny how groups of people tend to fight back when someone else tries to take their land.

    @ibleedbrown said:

    Clearly. Somehow l thought we were not necessarily on the same page, but maybe in the same chapter.

    Instead l’m getting “The pioneers etc were moving west, to start new lives in new lands, and the violent American Indian tribes went after them.”

    It’s funny how groups of people tend to fight back when someone else tries to take their land.

    He's in a different library

  • @mld-woody said:

    Cal only knows what his echo chamber feeds him

    Clearly. Somehow l thought we were not necessarily on the same page, but maybe in the same chapter.

    Instead l’m getting “The pioneers etc were moving west, to start new lives in new lands, and the violent American Indian tribes went after them.”

    It’s funny how groups of people tend to fight back when someone else tries to take their land.

    @ibleedbrown said:

    It’s funny how groups of people tend to fight back when someone else tries to take their land.

    Kind of like when the illegals invaded our country?

    But wait you won't see that comparison...

  • JaxJ Jax

    @ibleedbrown said:

    It’s funny how groups of people tend to fight back when someone else tries to take their land.

    Kind of like when the illegals invaded our country?

    But wait you won't see that comparison...

    @jax said:

    Kind of like when the illegals invaded our country?

    But wait you won't see that comparison...

    Sort of, except instead of being a mixed bag of people with varying motivations to be here, it’s a singular group with the goal of eventually displacing the native population instead of integrating with it.

    If you’re going that route, the English v. Irish/Welsh is probably a better comparison. Although after several hundred years they seem to be getting along ok, so it gives you hope for the Israelis and Palestinians.

  • @jax said:

    Kind of like when the illegals invaded our country?

    But wait you won't see that comparison...

    Sort of, except instead of being a mixed bag of people with varying motivations to be here, it’s a singular group with the goal of eventually displacing the native population instead of integrating with it.

    If you’re going that route, the English v. Irish/Welsh is probably a better comparison. Although after several hundred years they seem to be getting along ok, so it gives you hope for the Israelis and Palestinians.

    @ibleedbrown said:

    mixed bag of people with varying motivations to be here

    Maybe there is a single common goal though, to break our laws. The key word is 'illegal'.

    @ibleedbrown said:

    it’s a singular group with the goal of eventually displacing the native population instead of integrating with it

    Kind of like the illegals that don't learn our language or culture, or the ones that spread their own ideology(masked as religion) and congregate together trying to infest new laws. Where the main thing they try to integrate is our welfare system and when that isn't enough they create fake systems to commit fraud.

  • There never was a "palsetine" area. It's an invention from the Jew hating terrorist arabic sombeitch rapists, murderers, torturers and terrorizers.

    There were Indian tribes so vicious and violent that they demanded all land to be theirs.

    It has nothing to do with desperately fighting terrorists who keep kidnapping, murdering and torturing Jews IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY.

    Israel is a country.

    the arabs refused to have their own country.

    Damn, grow up and learn something about history. Please.

    Especially after October 7th, how the hell can any jackwagon claim Israel is going after terrorists to rescue their people and stop the terror attacks because they want to expand their land? this is worse than extremely stupid - it's dishonest in-everyone's-faces LIES.

    of course, the woodpecker and ibb dont' give a damn about all the murders and rapes etc by their illegals against innocent American women - they don't give a damn about the sex trafficking, drugs flowing across our border.

    They don't give a damn, they want their free stuff.

  • There never was a "palsetine" area. It's an invention from the Jew hating terrorist arabic sombeitch rapists, murderers, torturers and terrorizers.

    There were Indian tribes so vicious and violent that they demanded all land to be theirs.

    It has nothing to do with desperately fighting terrorists who keep kidnapping, murdering and torturing Jews IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY.

    Israel is a country.

    the arabs refused to have their own country.

    Damn, grow up and learn something about history. Please.

    Especially after October 7th, how the hell can any jackwagon claim Israel is going after terrorists to rescue their people and stop the terror attacks because they want to expand their land? this is worse than extremely stupid - it's dishonest in-everyone's-faces LIES.

    of course, the woodpecker and ibb dont' give a damn about all the murders and rapes etc by their illegals against innocent American women - they don't give a damn about the sex trafficking, drugs flowing across our border.

    They don't give a damn, they want their free stuff.

    @calfoxwc said:

    There never was a "palsetine" area. It's an invention from the Jew hating terrorist arabic sombeitch rapists, murderers, torturers and terrorizers.

    There were Indian tribes so vicious and violent that they demanded all land to be theirs.

    It has nothing to do with desperately fighting terrorists who keep kidnapping, murdering and torturing Jews IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY.

    Israel is a country.

    the arabs refused to have their own country.

    Damn, grow up and learn something about history. Please.

    Especially after October 7th, how the hell can any jackwagon claim Israel is going after terrorists to rescue their people and stop the terror attacks because they want to expand their land? this is worse than extremely stupid - it's dishonest in-everyone's-faces LIES.

    of course, the woodpecker and ibb dont' give a damn about all the murders and rapes etc by their illegals against innocent American women - they don't give a damn about the sex trafficking, drugs flowing across our border.

    They don't give a damn, they want their free stuff.

    Didn't Clinton try to give them land?

    How can he give them land that is already theirs? Unless....

  • JaxJ Jax

    @calfoxwc said:

    There never was a "palsetine" area. It's an invention from the Jew hating terrorist arabic sombeitch rapists, murderers, torturers and terrorizers.

    There were Indian tribes so vicious and violent that they demanded all land to be theirs.

    It has nothing to do with desperately fighting terrorists who keep kidnapping, murdering and torturing Jews IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY.

    Israel is a country.

    the arabs refused to have their own country.

    Damn, grow up and learn something about history. Please.

    Especially after October 7th, how the hell can any jackwagon claim Israel is going after terrorists to rescue their people and stop the terror attacks because they want to expand their land? this is worse than extremely stupid - it's dishonest in-everyone's-faces LIES.

    of course, the woodpecker and ibb dont' give a damn about all the murders and rapes etc by their illegals against innocent American women - they don't give a damn about the sex trafficking, drugs flowing across our border.

    They don't give a damn, they want their free stuff.

    Didn't Clinton try to give them land?

    How can he give them land that is already theirs? Unless....

    @jax said:

    Didn't Clinton try to give them land?

    How can he give them land that is already theirs? Unless....

    yeah, the old "Clinton Parameters".

    clinton wanted a political win for the wrong reasons. and the

    fake palestinians refused to have their own country.

    again. and again. and again.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Clinton_Parameters

  • JaxJ Jax

    @ibleedbrown said:

    mixed bag of people with varying motivations to be here

    Maybe there is a single common goal though, to break our laws. The key word is 'illegal'.

    @ibleedbrown said:

    it’s a singular group with the goal of eventually displacing the native population instead of integrating with it

    Kind of like the illegals that don't learn our language or culture, or the ones that spread their own ideology(masked as religion) and congregate together trying to infest new laws. Where the main thing they try to integrate is our welfare system and when that isn't enough they create fake systems to commit fraud.

    @jax said:

    Maybe there is a single common goal though, to break our laws. The key word is 'illegal'.

    Kind of like the illegals that don't learn our language or culture, or the ones that spread their own ideology(masked as religion) and congregate together trying to infest new laws. Where the main thing they try to integrate is our welfare system and when that isn't enough they create fake systems to commit fraud.

    The English and Irish wasn’t a reference point you could work with? I thought it was a better analogy, but l gather you’re not aware of their history. You’ve never even seen Braveheart? It’s pretty good man.

    I will try to work with your analogy if you’re strictly a current events guy.

    Ok, so it sounds like you have tiers of illegal aliens that get your goat more than others. The Christian Mexican who puts his head down and works 6 days a week or the teenager who got dragged here by his parents when he was a toddler and is now a sophomore in high school on the honor role, l’m guessing those are the illegal aliens you are less wigged out about? But the 20 something muslims from Syria or the Chinese national woman with 6 kids, those are the ones that wig you out more? Is that fair?

    In your analogy, l guess you’re a Palestinian dude living in a Palestinian controlled part of the West Bank, and the middle aged Israeli who lives peacefully in a condo on a hill in your territory is the less concerning invader, similar to the Mexican worked or the sophomore on the honor role, and the young Israeli dude with an AR-15 and a quad terrorizing your kids and your livelihood is the invader you are more concerned about.

    Sure, they’re both breaking some sort of law, but one is much more troublesome than the other.

    Stringing you along to catch up wasn’t my plan here, but if it helps you get 3 steps behind what l was hoping to discuss, l’m happy to help.

  • There never was a "palsetine" area. It's an invention from the Jew hating terrorist arabic sombeitch rapists, murderers, torturers and terrorizers.

    There were Indian tribes so vicious and violent that they demanded all land to be theirs.

    It has nothing to do with desperately fighting terrorists who keep kidnapping, murdering and torturing Jews IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY.

    Israel is a country.

    the arabs refused to have their own country.

    Damn, grow up and learn something about history. Please.

    Especially after October 7th, how the hell can any jackwagon claim Israel is going after terrorists to rescue their people and stop the terror attacks because they want to expand their land? this is worse than extremely stupid - it's dishonest in-everyone's-faces LIES.

    of course, the woodpecker and ibb dont' give a damn about all the murders and rapes etc by their illegals against innocent American women - they don't give a damn about the sex trafficking, drugs flowing across our border.

    They don't give a damn, they want their free stuff.

    @calfoxwc said:

    There never was a "palsetine" area. It's an invention from the Jew hating terrorist arabic sombeitch rapists, murderers, torturers and terrorizers.

    There were Indian tribes so vicious and violent that they demanded all land to be theirs.

    It has nothing to do with desperately fighting terrorists who keep kidnapping, murdering and torturing Jews IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY.

    Israel is a country.

    the arabs refused to have their own country.

    Damn, grow up and learn something about history. Please.

    Especially after October 7th, how the hell can any jackwagon claim Israel is going after terrorists to rescue their people and stop the terror attacks because they want to expand their land? this is worse than extremely stupid - it's dishonest in-everyone's-faces LIES.

    of course, the woodpecker and ibb dont' give a damn about all the murders and rapes etc by their illegals against innocent American women - they don't give a damn about the sex trafficking, drugs flowing across our border.

    They don't give a damn, they want their free stuff.

    There are areas that are under control of Palestinians. Gaza and parts of the West Bank. This was established in 1967, and fine tuned with the Oslo Accords in the 90s where the West Bank was divied up in to 3 sectors.

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    Israel's settlements: Over 50 years of land theft explained

    More than 600,000 Israelis live in illegal settlements in the West Bank and occupied East Jerusalem.
  • THAT is your source, ibb?

    lol.

    OMG.

    1. blogs.timesofisrael.com.ico

      The Times of Israel

      https://blogs.timesofisrael.com › the-country-that-never-existed

      The Country That Never Existed - The Times of Israel

      Nov 25, 2025The Country That Never Was: Debunking the Myth of Arab Palestine The world keeps hearing about "Palestine," as if there was once a sovereign Arab nation that was conquered, colonized, or stolen.

    2. factually.co.ico

      factually.co

      https://factually.co › fact-checks › politics › why-called-occupied-palestinian-teritory-75ab91

      As a state or nation called Palestine has never existe...

      Dec 12, 2025The phrase "Palestinian Territory" rests on the political geography left by the League of Nations and the UN: the territory between the Mediterranean and the Jordan River was administered as British Mandate Palestine after World War I, and UN partition plans and subsequent wars left parts of that mandate unconstituted as a separate Arab state—territory that international institutions ...

    3. blogs.timesofisrael.com.ico

      The Times of Israel

      https://blogs.timesofisrael.com › the-myth-of-palestine-how-history-was-rewritten

      The Myth of 'Palestine': How History Was Rewritten

      Nov 9, 2025So let's be clear: There was never an independent Arab state called Palestine. The name was adopted only to undermine the legitimacy of Jewish self-determination.

  • WOW. ibb is not good at not sounding stupid, just.....WOW.

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    [kon-sti-toot, -tyoot] / ˈkɒn stɪˌtut, -ˌtjut /

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  • never formed. never established.

    alqajeerah sp? lol.

    WOW. ibb's STUPIDASS meter just went past "woodpecker assbird".