Who do you think our starting QB will be?
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Sanders had better be prepared to win games when he gets his shot. Watson and his somewhat fragile body is overdue for his season ending injury. But by winning 3 straight to vault us into 1st place he has raised the bar for Shedeur. Sanders has to prove that he's the better option than Watson...AND that he's the better option than using draft assets to get one of the top QB's in the '27 draft.
Also on the horizon is Gabriel and his coming off of IR. I'm assuming that that decision about carrying 4 QB's is not far off.@Orion said:
Sanders had better be prepared to win games when he gets his shot. Watson and his somewhat fragile body is overdue for his season ending injury. But by winning 3 straight to vault us into 1st place he has raised the bar for Shedeur. Sanders has to prove that he's the better option than Watson...AND that he's the better option than using draft assets to get one of the top QB's in the '27 draft.
Also on the horizon is Gabriel and his coming off of IR. I'm assuming that that decision about carrying 4 QB's is not far off.
Agree, because he still tries to make that extra yard or two head first. It's only a matter of time. I said earlier it will be by game 6 as usual. I'm sticking to that. -
Sanders had better be prepared to win games when he gets his shot. Watson and his somewhat fragile body is overdue for his season ending injury. But by winning 3 straight to vault us into 1st place he has raised the bar for Shedeur. Sanders has to prove that he's the better option than Watson...AND that he's the better option than using draft assets to get one of the top QB's in the '27 draft.
Also on the horizon is Gabriel and his coming off of IR. I'm assuming that that decision about carrying 4 QB's is not far off.@Orion Watson seems to be getting better every game so far. An injury would be the only thing that stops him from starting. Shedeur is NOT better, but is a serviceable back-up.
With the 4QBs and next years picks, I do see us being open to offers for any of them. -
Insider Benjamin Solak of ESPN said he believes the Browns are one position away from truly competing, and an upgrade at quarterback would make them much better.
“Cleveland Browns are 4-2. They are atop of the AFC North. I really truly believe the Browns are a quarterback away from being a good team. I fully do. What are we talking about being a quarterback away? Because at halftime in this game, Deshaun Watson had two completions. The best game Deshaun Watson has played this year was the prime time game against the Steelers, without question. The last two games he’s played, a loss to the Jets and this win over the Ravens, have been horrible, horrible football. Deshaun is not playing good quarterback.
We seem to be right exactly where we didn't want to be...again. Trying to evaluate our starting QB in relation to the upcoming draft while him having an excuse of poor OL play. An entirely new OL, including OL coach, exactly the same result. Uncanny.
I think this year differs in that we're not evaluating a 22 year old rookie. This is an older veteran. The bar is going to be set higher. He's going to have to play to quite a high level in order to keep us from drafting a QB in round 1. And he's certainly not playing ANYWHERE NEAR the level he needs to play at. We're now in the second 3rd of the season. So far, we're not just drafting one in the 1st round. We're bundling picks to move towards the top of the draft. I have to assume that Monken saw what he needed to see from Sanders in TC practices & preseason to know that having him on the team is no reason not to get the best QB you can in this year's draft. If not for our D so far, we'd be sporting a top 5 pick.BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
OverTheCap link to Deshaun's contract -- note the language at the bottom: Needs to be cut by second day of 2027 league year to take advantage of post-6/1 designation.
This is the reason Watson is still on the team. Obviously culture/locker room means he should have been cut years ago.
Note that next season when he does get cut, only 1M of cap savings occur on the 2027 books and there's still 51M guaranteed to eat in 2028, which probably should be done all in that season to be good moving forward.
Sure, just win baby, but Watson isn't actually good -- this is more Nick Foles has one halfway decent season. Browns still need a consistent QB. I don't think they should trade up to the 1 but rather sit and let someone good fall, because they always do. Someone's going to take Checkdown Arch because many GM's are dumb, and that leaves Mensah or CJ Carr for us.
Sayin's accuracy and newfound willingness to scramble will make him a great rd3 backup.@Unsympathetic said:
OverTheCap link to Deshaun's contract -- note the language at the bottom: Needs to be cut by second day of 2027 league year to take advantage of post-6/1 designation.
This is the reason Watson is still on the team. Obviously culture/locker room means he should have been cut years ago.
Note that next season when he does get cut, only 1M of cap savings occur on the 2027 books and there's still 51M guaranteed to eat in 2028, which probably should be done all in that season to be good moving forward.
Sure, just win baby, but Watson isn't actually good -- this is more Nick Foles has one halfway decent season. Browns still need a consistent QB. I don't think they should trade up to the 1 but rather sit and let someone good fall, because they always do. Someone's going to take Checkdown Arch because many GM's are dumb, and that leaves Mensah or CJ Carr for us.
Sayin's accuracy and newfound willingness to scramble will make him a great rd3 backup.
Sayin comes across to me as a "System QB" I like some of the things he does.. but I don't see elite.. .. Watson right now seems like Smoke n Mirrors and a lot of luck.. And you can only run on luck so long until the warts begin to expose themselves... -
@Unsympathetic said:
OverTheCap link to Deshaun's contract -- note the language at the bottom: Needs to be cut by second day of 2027 league year to take advantage of post-6/1 designation.
This is the reason Watson is still on the team. Obviously culture/locker room means he should have been cut years ago.
Note that next season when he does get cut, only 1M of cap savings occur on the 2027 books and there's still 51M guaranteed to eat in 2028, which probably should be done all in that season to be good moving forward.
Sure, just win baby, but Watson isn't actually good -- this is more Nick Foles has one halfway decent season. Browns still need a consistent QB. I don't think they should trade up to the 1 but rather sit and let someone good fall, because they always do. Someone's going to take Checkdown Arch because many GM's are dumb, and that leaves Mensah or CJ Carr for us.
Sayin's accuracy and newfound willingness to scramble will make him a great rd3 backup.
Sayin comes across to me as a "System QB" I like some of the things he does.. but I don't see elite.. .. Watson right now seems like Smoke n Mirrors and a lot of luck.. And you can only run on luck so long until the warts begin to expose themselves...@nickers Sayin could very well be returning to college next season, he didn’t exactly improve off his 2025 season and he’s probably out for the rest of this one. I’m not sure what NFL scouts thought of him going into the season, but we probably thought higher of him than they did, I’m guessing.
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Insider Benjamin Solak of ESPN said he believes the Browns are one position away from truly competing, and an upgrade at quarterback would make them much better.
“Cleveland Browns are 4-2. They are atop of the AFC North. I really truly believe the Browns are a quarterback away from being a good team. I fully do. What are we talking about being a quarterback away? Because at halftime in this game, Deshaun Watson had two completions. The best game Deshaun Watson has played this year was the prime time game against the Steelers, without question. The last two games he’s played, a loss to the Jets and this win over the Ravens, have been horrible, horrible football. Deshaun is not playing good quarterback.
We seem to be right exactly where we didn't want to be...again. Trying to evaluate our starting QB in relation to the upcoming draft while him having an excuse of poor OL play. An entirely new OL, including OL coach, exactly the same result. Uncanny.
I think this year differs in that we're not evaluating a 22 year old rookie. This is an older veteran. The bar is going to be set higher. He's going to have to play to quite a high level in order to keep us from drafting a QB in round 1. And he's certainly not playing ANYWHERE NEAR the level he needs to play at. We're now in the second 3rd of the season. So far, we're not just drafting one in the 1st round. We're bundling picks to move towards the top of the draft. I have to assume that Monken saw what he needed to see from Sanders in TC practices & preseason to know that having him on the team is no reason not to get the best QB you can in this year's draft. If not for our D so far, we'd be sporting a top 5 pick.@Orion and if they draft that quarterback by the time hes halfway decent the guys who were ready to win with a qb are now moving on.
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@Orion and if they draft that quarterback by the time hes halfway decent the guys who were ready to win with a qb are now moving on.
@The-Cysko-Kid said:
@Orion and if they draft that quarterback by the time hes halfway decent the guys who were ready to win with a qb are now moving on.
Judkins and Fannin are in their second season. Fano, Barber, Boston and Concepcion are all rookies.
And here's a newsflash, the drafts are going to keep coming. -
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@syd said:
how about Arch Manning starting for The Buckeyes next year
In the new brave world of the NIL, would it completely shock me?
I kind of get the impression Sayin was driving Ryan Day nuts this season. And Ohio State's QB room isn't looking as good as it did before the season started. Tavien St. Clair has not been as advertised. -
@syd said:
how about Arch Manning starting for The Buckeyes next year
In the new brave world of the NIL, would it completely shock me?
I kind of get the impression Sayin was driving Ryan Day nuts this season. And Ohio State's QB room isn't looking as good as it did before the season started. Tavien St. Clair has not been as advertised.@Dutch-Oven said:
In the new brave world of the NIL, would it completely shock me?
I kind of get the impression Sayin was driving Ryan Day nuts this season. And Ohio State's QB room isn't looking as good as it did before the season started. Tavien St. Clair has not been as advertised.
so hell ya. lets give him a pile of money to improve his draft stock -
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@syd That would be pretty wild
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@nickers Sayin could very well be returning to college next season, he didn’t exactly improve off his 2025 season and he’s probably out for the rest of this one. I’m not sure what NFL scouts thought of him going into the season, but we probably thought higher of him than they did, I’m guessing.
@Dutch-Oven said:
@nickers Sayin could very well be returning to college next season, he didn’t exactly improve off his 2025 season and he’s probably out for the rest of this one. I’m not sure what NFL scouts thought of him going into the season, but we probably thought higher of him than they did, I’m guessing.
I thought he would be much better.. But to me... He's just "Okay" -
@Dutch-Oven said:
@nickers Sayin could very well be returning to college next season, he didn’t exactly improve off his 2025 season and he’s probably out for the rest of this one. I’m not sure what NFL scouts thought of him going into the season, but we probably thought higher of him than they did, I’m guessing.
I thought he would be much better.. But to me... He's just "Okay" -
@nickers There was no progress from last season
@Dutch-Oven said:
@nickers There was no progress from last season
yeah he looked about the same..
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