Final: Saints (3-5) 23, Browns (5-4) 22 · Week 9
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@Captain-Trips said:
Wow! Do you go for 2 and the win here?
Yea, though I'm not sure about that play call. It was so telegraphed that everybody knew exactly what it was even the announcers -
Don't mind the aggression, didn't like the call or execution.
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I picked 10 confidence in pick em that was really stupid
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Disappointing loss. Run defence is once again lacking and our run game is in absentia. Nice for KC to have his first TD and Fannin's TD was impressive. I agree with going for two at the end but call wasn't great.
@MDDawg said:
Disappointing loss. Run defence is once again lacking and our run game is in absentia. Nice for KC to have his first TD and Fannin's TD was impressive. I agree with going for two at the end but call wasn't great.
When Maliek Collins misses time the run D really struggles.
I'm not ultra upset about this one, my frustration is with all the stupid penalties. Especially the ones on offense, it's a huge problem. -
@tiamat63 said:
Don't mind the aggression, didn't like the call or execution.
I did NOT like us going for it on either of the 4th downs. Down at their 1 yard line I wanted the FG. Our OL had not showed one thing to make me think that we could run the ball in there. Perhaps a tush push QB sneak, maybe. And I didn't like going for it around mid-field. I had no confidence that our Offense should be put on the spot like that. That gave them a short field to get their own FG. And I had very little confidence in us getting that 2 point conversion. I thought we should've been happy with a tie. But, that's just me. -
@tiamat63 said:
Don't mind the aggression, didn't like the call or execution.
I did NOT like us going for it on either of the 4th downs. Down at their 1 yard line I wanted the FG. Our OL had not showed one thing to make me think that we could run the ball in there. Perhaps a tush push QB sneak, maybe. And I didn't like going for it around mid-field. I had no confidence that our Offense should be put on the spot like that. That gave them a short field to get their own FG. And I had very little confidence in us getting that 2 point conversion. I thought we should've been happy with a tie. But, that's just me.@Orion said:
I did NOT like us going for it on either of the 4th downs. Down at their 1 yard line I wanted the FG. Our OL had not showed one thing to make me think that we could run the ball in there. Perhaps a tush push QB sneak, maybe. And I didn't like going for it around mid-field. I had no confidence that our Offense should be put on the spot like that. That gave them a short field to get their own FG. And I had very little confidence in us getting that 2 point conversion. I thought we should've been happy with a tie. But, that's just me.
I'm going to disagree with you on the last one. I loved going for two, didn't love the actual play called though.
I feel like you had to go for two because with one minute left you were giving the Saints a great chance to drive 40 or so yards in the minute left and kick the winning field goal, especially if you consider what the Browns defense did in their last two drives. -
@MDDawg said:
Disappointing loss. Run defence is once again lacking and our run game is in absentia. Nice for KC to have his first TD and Fannin's TD was impressive. I agree with going for two at the end but call wasn't great.
When Maliek Collins misses time the run D really struggles.
I'm not ultra upset about this one, my frustration is with all the stupid penalties. Especially the ones on offense, it's a huge problem.@Bob806 said:
When Maliek Collins misses time the run D really struggles.
I'm not ultra upset about this one, my frustration is with all the stupid penalties. Especially the ones on offense, it's a huge problem.
The penalties and the lack of any progress with the OLine are to me the most frustrating things about this team right now. -
@Orion said:
I did NOT like us going for it on either of the 4th downs. Down at their 1 yard line I wanted the FG. Our OL had not showed one thing to make me think that we could run the ball in there. Perhaps a tush push QB sneak, maybe. And I didn't like going for it around mid-field. I had no confidence that our Offense should be put on the spot like that. That gave them a short field to get their own FG. And I had very little confidence in us getting that 2 point conversion. I thought we should've been happy with a tie. But, that's just me.
I'm going to disagree with you on the last one. I loved going for two, didn't love the actual play called though.
I feel like you had to go for two because with one minute left you were giving the Saints a great chance to drive 40 or so yards in the minute left and kick the winning field goal, especially if you consider what the Browns defense did in their last two drives.@Dutch-Oven said:
I loved going for two,
Understood. But it certainly shows that he lost confidence in his D. But I honestly sat there with absolutely no confidence that they were going to get it done with just one chance at it. -
Shedeur should start from now on
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@MDDawg said:
Disappointing loss. Run defence is once again lacking and our run game is in absentia. Nice for KC to have his first TD and Fannin's TD was impressive. I agree with going for two at the end but call wasn't great.
When Maliek Collins misses time the run D really struggles.
I'm not ultra upset about this one, my frustration is with all the stupid penalties. Especially the ones on offense, it's a huge problem.@Bob806 said:
When Maliek Collins misses time the run D really struggles.
I'm not ultra upset about this one, my frustration is with all the stupid penalties. Especially the ones on offense, it's a huge problem.
It’s midway through the season and the penalties still haven’t been cleaned up. At this point I only predict 3 more wins after the bye and looks like my 8-9 prediction will hold. -
@Bob806 said:
When Maliek Collins misses time the run D really struggles.
I'm not ultra upset about this one, my frustration is with all the stupid penalties. Especially the ones on offense, it's a huge problem.
It’s midway through the season and the penalties still haven’t been cleaned up. At this point I only predict 3 more wins after the bye and looks like my 8-9 prediction will hold.@MDDawg said:
It’s midway through the season and the penalties still haven’t been cleaned up. At this point I only predict 3 more wins after the bye and looks like my 8-9 prediction will hold.
I had 'em at 7-9-1 lol.
I'd bet most folks were reading all the doom & gloom national pundits and thought the Browns would be one of the league's worst again. 5-4 is ok in my book, even though they let this slip away today.
There's room for optimism though with all these young guys. -
@MDDawg said:
It’s midway through the season and the penalties still haven’t been cleaned up. At this point I only predict 3 more wins after the bye and looks like my 8-9 prediction will hold.
I had 'em at 7-9-1 lol.
I'd bet most folks were reading all the doom & gloom national pundits and thought the Browns would be one of the league's worst again. 5-4 is ok in my book, even though they let this slip away today.
There's room for optimism though with all these young guys.@Bob806 said:
I had 'em at 7-9-1 lol.
I'd bet most folks were reading all the doom & gloom national pundits and thought the Browns would be one of the league's worst again. 5-4 is ok in my book, even though they let this slip away today.
There's room for optimism though with all these young guys.
I predicted a 4-13 season, and honestly looking back, I totally get why I did.
Watson and Sanders today haven't been top tier QBs, but they still have played far better than I expected. They at least have been starting caliber QBs, even if they are in the bottom third. Yet, this team still is looking up at scoring 20 points a game. Without Myles, the best defensive player in the NFL and consider they lost their other starting DE from last season in Wright, I seriously wondered how they would generate a pass rush. I like Ward and Campbell at CB, but thought the overall depth was paper thin. We also were going from a top DC to a rookie DC.
So in my mind, a very bad offense paired with an average defense that was thin at DE and CB made me think this was a team destined for a top 5 draft pick. -
@Kvoethe his stats for yesterday would support that: 19/31, 297 yards, 2 TD, 114.6 rating.
Unfortunately for him, any QB starting this year is just a placeholder. That comes at great risk of personal harm, due to this woeful OLine. -
Sanders has a great arm but he just can’t process fast enough. Let’s see Gabriel.
@Ibleedbrown said:
Sanders has a great arm but he just can’t process fast enough. Let’s see Gabriel.
Agreed. I wrote in my pre-game pediction I was worried about it. -
@Bob806 said:
Big game for the Browns.
I'm hoping they utilize KC Concepcion & Dylan Sampson on the AstroTurf as it should help play to their shifty selves.
The Browns have got to figure out how to get started in these games. The 1st Q has been a problem all season.
In Flugel's 1st ever Football Follies or Jollies, it's gonna be Jollies as time expires. It's OUR Cleveland Browns so we know darn well it doesn't matter where the Saints' O or D ranks.
Keys to the game?
Defer. Kickoff & Kickass!
How quickly does Sheduer process what's in front of him vrs the speed of the game/Saints' pass rush? If he's patting the football in the pocket it's a bad sign unless it's very infrequent.
The OL has to show up prepared this week; and I dare say if 1 guy isn't up to handling his job - time to sit that feller so he can watch someone willing to do so. We don't need any more mystery meat out there!
Our DL, and DTs in particular, will remind us what they're made of.
Mostly, I'm trusting the will of this team based on seeing them overcome early deficits quite a bit this year. It's a 60 minute game; and man do they ever reflect their leadership from Ruty and Monken staying dialed in until the clock reaches 0.
Browns 24 Saints 22Flugel said:
In Flugel's 1st ever Football Follies or Jollies, it's gonna be Jollies as time expires. It's OUR Cleveland Browns so we know darn well it doesn't matter where the Saints' O or D ranks.
Keys to the game?
Defer. Kickoff & Kickass!
How quickly does Sheduer process what's in front of him vrs the speed of the game/Saints' pass rush? If he's patting the football in the pocket it's a bad sign unless it's very infrequent.
The OL has to show up prepared this week; and I dare say if 1 guy isn't up to handling his job - time to sit that feller so he can watch someone willing to do so. We don't need any more mystery meat out there!
Our DL, and DTs in particular, will remind us what they're made of.
Mostly, I'm trusting the will of this team based on seeing them overcome early deficits quite a bit this year. It's a 60 minute game; and man do they ever reflect their leadership from Ruty and Monken staying dialed in until the clock reaches 0.
Browns 24 Saints 22
Reminding myself why I don't make predictions. The concern expressed about how quickly does Sheduer process isn't going away any time soon. Why did we let Estime go? I kept saying to myself yesterday it sure would be nice to have another Kevin Mack for short yardage or that 2 point conversion attempt. That said, Mack & Byner had a much more seasoned/reliable line in front of them here.
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