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  • So I came up with an interesting conspiracy theory today...

    Is it possible Mangini threw BQ to the wolves, knowing full well that he would need ONE of the QBs to bail out the season and knowing equally well DA's confidence was less likely to survive the early beating than BQ's?

    To put it another way:

    Was DA Mangini's true choice all along and he wanted to either a. save him for the easier stretch of the schedule, or b. take the pressure off by basically letting BQ blow the season?

    This would be Machiavellian in the extreme but if Mangini is as cold as he pretends he is...

    Not totally implausible.

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  • Let's see where we're at by game 16 before we crown this clown. We weren't facing the Ravens today.

  • I agree with mark, that looked like a qb draw to me. They had time on the sideline before that play (someone took a timeout) to discuss it.

  • Crown WHO? The guy who continually throws into double and triple coverage.. I wonder if you guys saw the same crappy QB I did today... Oh by the way ..that crappy QB played for Cleveland.. WE LOST THE GAME..

    Throw it away on third down and kick a field goal.. YEAH... NO>>> throw it into double coverage for an interception and come away with nothing... Sorry that's on DA.. not Mangini.

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  • D dencyguy

    Watching the gamecast--I got to see the Titans sucking against the Jaguars--I was a bit confused by some of the playcalling in overtime. I could be wrong, but it seemed like the team pretty much stopped running in overtime. There were a couple of runs here or there, but Cincinnati's offense seemed more balanced in the overtime.

    And, not to kick Rob Ryan again--okay, to kick Rob Ryan again--but how do you not bring pressure on the fourth down play? Yeah, you run the risk of leaving the deep ball open, but you also force the guy to get rid of the ball faster, and you don't let the QB stand back there and decide to run, and you don't leave him a huge hole to run through. I had the gamecast on and was watching the CBS guys talk about the game in progress--they couldn't show it--but one of their studio guys said what a lot of people were probably thinking: if it had been REX Ryan, the Browns would have thrown all available rushers at Palmer to force him to throw it early.

    Dennis

    @dencyguy said:

    how do you not bring pressure on the fourth down play? Yeah, you run the risk of leaving the deep ball open, but you also force the guy to get rid of the ball faster, and you don't let the QB stand back there and decide to run, and you don't leave him a huge hole to run through.

    Dennis

    well, the browns man coverage was great throughout the game, so bringing a blitz(which the browns aren't very good at) isn't the best choice.

    it is dissappointing nobody saw immobile Palmer scramble for 15 yds.. but the lack of browns pressure while bringing 3-5 guys is the biggest setback on the defense and maybe the only thing holding them back.

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  • S Sez.EJ

    Crown WHO? The guy who continually throws into double and triple coverage.. I wonder if you guys saw the same crappy QB I did today... Oh by the way ..that crappy QB played for Cleveland.. WE LOST THE GAME..

    Throw it away on third down and kick a field goal.. YEAH... NO>>> throw it into double coverage for an interception and come away with nothing... Sorry that's on DA.. not Mangini.

    @sez.ej said:

    Crown WHO? The guy who continually throws into double and triple coverage.. I wonder if you guys saw the same crappy QB I did today... Oh by the way ..that crappy QB played for Cleveland.. WE LOST THE GAME..

    Throw it away on third down and kick a field goal.. YEAH... NO>>> throw it into double coverage for an interception and come away with nothing... Sorry that's on DA.. not Mangini.

    So did harrison suck ass today too? The Bengals scored 7 on that play. 😳

  • if there was anyway quinn could somehow coach and of couse be our QB at the same time.. we could never lose!

  • I was just relieved to see some competitive football, gives me confidence that we can win some games down the stretch.

  • I don't think today's game had anything to do with Mangini... but it did have a lot to do with the pride of the players on the field, and that's a very good thing

    But even that will only go so far without a win. You look over at Denver, with a supposedly bad team with a rookie head coach who himself looked in over his head at times who many predicted would go 0-4. That team finds a way to win each week and is 4-0. This team finds a way to lose each week and is -0-4.

    If those losses continue not even player pride is going to keep this team from throwing in the towel. The best one can hope for is that they get pumped up from a near win.

    Beating a beat up Bills team next week would be a badly needed first step back from being the punchiline of an NFL joke. If the lose to a team like the Bills it won't be pretty... everyone will be looking ahead to the KC game in late December for the best prospect for a win.

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    @dencyguy said:

    how do you not bring pressure on the fourth down play? Yeah, you run the risk of leaving the deep ball open, but you also force the guy to get rid of the ball faster, and you don't let the QB stand back there and decide to run, and you don't leave him a huge hole to run through.

    Dennis

    well, the browns man coverage was great throughout the game, so bringing a blitz(which the browns aren't very good at) isn't the best choice.

    it is dissappointing nobody saw immobile Palmer scramble for 15 yds.. but the lack of browns pressure while bringing 3-5 guys is the biggest setback on the defense and maybe the only thing holding them back.

    @clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

    well, the browns man coverage was great throughout the game, so bringing a blitz(which the browns aren't very good at) isn't the best choice.

    it is dissappointing nobody saw immobile Palmer scramble for 15 yds.. but the lack of browns pressure while bringing 3-5 guys is the biggest setback on the defense and maybe the only thing holding them back.

    The Browns played a cover two and cover three almost the entire game. Sorry, but there wasn't much man coverage at all that's why the play was a great call.

    You can't take a chance with an all out blitz because they can't play man coverage worth a shit and even when they blitz they don't get to the QB.

  • D damajuki

    So I came up with an interesting conspiracy theory today...

    Is it possible Mangini threw BQ to the wolves, knowing full well that he would need ONE of the QBs to bail out the season and knowing equally well DA's confidence was less likely to survive the early beating than BQ's?

    To put it another way:

    Was DA Mangini's true choice all along and he wanted to either a. save him for the easier stretch of the schedule, or b. take the pressure off by basically letting BQ blow the season?

    This would be Machiavellian in the extreme but if Mangini is as cold as he pretends he is...

    Not totally implausible.

    @damajuki said:

    So I came up with an interesting conspiracy theory today...

    Is it possible Mangini threw BQ to the wolves, knowing full well that he would need ONE of the QBs to bail out the season and knowing equally well DA's confidence was less likely to survive the early beating than BQ's?

    To put it another way:

    Was DA Mangini's true choice all along and he wanted to either a. save him for the easier stretch of the schedule, or b. take the pressure off by basically letting BQ blow the season?

    This would be Machiavellian in the extreme but if Mangini is as cold as he pretends he is...

    Not totally implausible.

    😳 Take off your tinfoil hat dude 😳

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