2010 Mocks
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Because of his run first mentality and weak arm
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suns said:
Colt mccoy..How did he drop to the 2nd round?I don't think his stock has actually shifted all that much.
Think of it this way: had McCoy declared for the '09 draft, how high would he have been picked? He wouldn't have gone before Stafford and Sanchez. Tampa likely still would have taken Freeman, so Minnesota could have been his only hope of getting picked in the 1st round. Absent an excellent pro day, he likely would have been a 2nd round pick.
People were projecting him to be early 1st round pick in next year's draft because the class was said to be short on elite QB's, not because - like Sam Bradford - he could have been a top ten pick in '09. But since then, Locker, Clausen, and Pike have played very well, while McCoy hasn't done much.
His stock very well could surge, but I could just as easily see him being the 4th or 5th QB taken next April.
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I will say this once (maybe more if needed)
Colt Mccoy IS Charlie Frye
Their Playing Styles Are Identical
Mccoy has a worse arm than Frye but is a bit quicker
He has the same ballsiness that Frye has, but a more accurate arm, but less arm strength. Cant take that guy. He'll run out of the pocket every other play in the NFL
I will say this once (maybe more if needed)
Colt Mccoy IS Charlie Frye
Their Playing Styles Are Identical
Mccoy has a worse arm than Frye but is a bit quicker
He has the same ballsiness that Frye has, but a more accurate arm, but less arm strength. Cant take that guy. He'll run out of the pocket every other play in the NFL
No offense dude, but you are also the guy that thinks BQ is an amazing QB. Oh, and Colt McCoy plays for Texas. Charlie Frye played for the Akron f'cking Zips. I think there is a little difference in the average level of play between those two programs.
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If we have to draft a quarterback I am going to want Locker. He is raw, but I've liked him since I first saw him his freshman year. With him improving week by week this year, I am getting to the point where I will have to go see a doctor -- it has lasted longer than four hours. The guy has a cannon, runs a 4.5 and has been making good decisions.
My 2010 wants if we need a Qb:
rd 1: QB
rd 2: RT/Pass rusher
rd 3: Pass Rusher/ Right Tackle
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@shepwrite said:
Wow. Clausen sure looks good to me. What are you guys seeing?His numbers are sick. I just love the way DA starts, loses a game, is named the saviour, and another domer comes ripping into the picture.
The timing is fab. You can't make this stuff up.
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I'm "trying" to say that I don't want the Browns to draft Jimmy Claussen (?)
Sorry for the ambiguity.
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Another Domer comes into the picture...after Quinn is traded in April
Let me guess. The Browns end up 3-13 take Clausen and everybody expect him to be the starter. Anderson's bonus is picked up which divides Browns nation(the smart fans know it shouldn't be picked up). Clausen holds out which costs him from starting right away, Anderson starts the season and thanks to a weak schedule, starts 7-4, but miss the playoffs as they blow it against the Bengals as Anderson throws 4 picks and finish 10-6, losing a tie breaker with Pittsburgh which Anderson went 13-37 passing during the last game they played. DA puts up a 84QB rating but faded during the year.
So we go into the offseason, everybody expects Anderson to be gone, but wala, Mankok resign him to a extension and says there will be a QB competition between Anderson and Clausen plus they are comfortable with whoever starts.
Browns football, the gift that keeps on giving.
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We don't need to draft a QB if Quinn develops faster than the average QB.
One problem I think Ive realized with Quinn this year (and it came to me after watching the Raiders vs Chargers game this year) was that Usually the first starting season or two that a QB undertakes (as mentioned by the commentators) the majority of targets go to the tight end over the middle. Mainly because the routes are shorter and the TE is a big target and a good check down. Problem is, as we have discovered, Robert Royal does a shitty Kellen Winslow imitation. We saw last year Quinn and Kellen hook up big time, this is natural for a young QB. When I was watching the Raider game Russel was hitting up that TE all night.
In our first 3 games Royal dropped a SHIT TON of passes. Against Cincy Royal dropped like 2 passes. Clearly the loss of Winslow hurt Quinns development, this is why I was really mad that we let Rucker go, as he is a pass catching TE. Hopefully Quinn in the future can overcome this issue. If he cannot, I am in full support of drafting a QB or going to DA. I still think he needs more time, but I agree with Atenears post in the other thread about DA llowing us to evaluate our other players better. I still think Quinn can be our QB of the future, but maybe not just right now, and maybe thats the plan.
As far as this draft is concerned, if you ask me about QB's, I like Pike, and Tebow.
But I would love it if we drafted Dez Bryant or Taylor Mays.... Not a big Berry fan, he spells bust to me
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http://walterfootball.com/draft2010.php
We need to spend the #1 pick on an offensive lineman.
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We don't need to draft a QB if Quinn develops faster than the average QB.
One problem I think Ive realized with Quinn this year (and it came to me after watching the Raiders vs Chargers game this year) was that Usually the first starting season or two that a QB undertakes (as mentioned by the commentators) the majority of targets go to the tight end over the middle. Mainly because the routes are shorter and the TE is a big target and a good check down. Problem is, as we have discovered, Robert Royal does a shitty Kellen Winslow imitation. We saw last year Quinn and Kellen hook up big time, this is natural for a young QB. When I was watching the Raider game Russel was hitting up that TE all night.
In our first 3 games Royal dropped a SHIT TON of passes. Against Cincy Royal dropped like 2 passes. Clearly the loss of Winslow hurt Quinns development, this is why I was really mad that we let Rucker go, as he is a pass catching TE. Hopefully Quinn in the future can overcome this issue. If he cannot, I am in full support of drafting a QB or going to DA. I still think he needs more time, but I agree with Atenears post in the other thread about DA llowing us to evaluate our other players better. I still think Quinn can be our QB of the future, but maybe not just right now, and maybe thats the plan.
As far as this draft is concerned, if you ask me about QB's, I like Pike, and Tebow.
But I would love it if we drafted Dez Bryant or Taylor Mays.... Not a big Berry fan, he spells bust to me
We don't need to draft a QB if Quinn develops faster than the average QB.
You really think Quinn is still in this org's long-term plans after how all of this shit has gone down? Really??
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@shepwrite said:
Draft for the core, whether it's QB, RB, WR, corner, DE, or linebacker.I say draft for impact. I want an Ed Reed, Patrick Willis type for our D. I don't like any of the QBs, don't think there are any Peterson or Fitzgerald types on offense, and don't like the idea of banking on fat guys (except for left tackles) at the top of round 1. I'm definitely on the Berry/Mays wagon.
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