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    AdaM said:

    Yeah he commands a doubleteam.. so what.

    As to what, it allows a guy like MoMass to go out and see mainly man coverger and put up a big day like he did Sunday. In the long run, getting rid of BE will probably make the team better. In the short term, we are likely not going to see many games this year out of MoMass like we did on Sunday.

    We shall see how the passing game looks this Sunday.

    Masters said:

    As to what, it allows a guy like MoMass to go out and see mainly man coverger and put up a big day like he did Sunday. In the long run, getting rid of BE will probably make the team better. In the short term, we are likely not going to see many games this year out of MoMass like we did on Sunday.

    We shall see how the passing game looks this Sunday.

    Yep, I have a feeling it will be a good thing.

  • ITHIKAI ITHIKA

    I disagree with you BE and DA's chemistry is very good and took years to build. Eventually BE was going to have a break out game and the guy draws double coverage alot. He was in fact our only seasoned weapon and If you think he wasn't going to have a solid year with DA at the helm your smoking crack! Pro Bowl with the Browns maybe not, but with the Jets he will! We got xxxxed and thats all there is to it Stuckey isnt a #1 and we got a special teams LB! Who xxxxing cares! Once you find out we didn't get at least a 3rd and we win maybe 2 games your going to understand very quickly how much this deal sucked!

    @ithika said:

    I disagree with you BE and DA's chemistry is very good and took years to build. Eventually BE was going to have a break out game and the guy draws double coverage alot. He was in fact our only seasoned weapon and If you think he wasn't going to have a solid year with DA at the helm your smoking crack! Pro Bowl with the Browns maybe not, but with the Jets he will! We got xxxxed and thats all there is to it Stuckey isnt a #1 and we got a special teams LB! Who xxxxing cares! Once you find out we didn't get at least a 3rd and we win maybe 2 games your going to understand very quickly how much this deal sucked!

    I thought BE and DA had a good relationship but maybe not lately (or maybe this story is bullshit):

    Derek Anderson is glad that Braylon is gone

    Posted by Mike Florio on October 7, 2009 10:31 AM ET

    Though he hasn't and likely won't say or do anything publicly to indicate his feelings on the matter, a league source tells us that Browns starting quarterback (for now) Derek Anderson is happy that receiver Braylon Edwards has been traded to the Jets.

    We were surprised, given that Anderson likes to throw the deep ball and that Edwards had been the team's top vertical option. Then again, the number of dropped passes over the past year and change likely influenced Anderson's thinking.

    The eight catches and 148 yards from rookie Mohamed Massaquoi probably increases Anderson's comfort level regarding Edwards' absence, too.

    And so the Browns have in little more than seven months dumped their two top-ten draft picks from 2005 and 2004 -- Edwards and tight end Kellen Winslow.

    Two years ago, it appeared that both players would be Cleveland fixtures well into the next decade.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/...raylon-is-gone/

  • If that is true then it speak volumes. Anderson greatly benefits from a deep threat. However, there must be off the field and in the huddle situations not meshing. DA has worked hard to be the starting QB (as did Quinn)...BE was given the #1 and you didn't quite see the effort on or off the field to equate to such a prestigous job. Anderson throws to a wide open Edwards who drops it. Then having that same guy saying HE wants the ball in the huddle...can't sit well. If it wasn't for his one monster year out of five...talent is good...using it is better.

  • This could very well be a turning point for Anderson. Without a cancer in the locker room and in the huddle Anderson can take command and be the field general. I truly believe that Edwards was a big part of Anderson's flop last season.

    And now we are stuck with rookies and some situational players. Is that bad? You think Buffalo might be scratching their heads and saying, who do we roll the coverage to? Who will they target in certain situations? It's all unknown until teams are able to see a few games and see what they will do.

    Today Anderson seems very happy. Maybe he feels a big monkey was taken off his back. The pressure was you had to get your #1 involved, now that won't be a problem. There is no pattern for defenses to look for and best of all no disruptions for the QB in the huddle.

    Lat wek Mangini said Robo has earned some additional time because of his work on the scout teams. This week he said Robo would get some time on offense not just special teams. How long was this deal in the works?

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    This could very well be a turning point for Anderson. Without a cancer in the locker room and in the huddle Anderson can take command and be the field general. I truly believe that Edwards was a big part of Anderson's flop last season.

    And now we are stuck with rookies and some situational players. Is that bad? You think Buffalo might be scratching their heads and saying, who do we roll the coverage to? Who will they target in certain situations? It's all unknown until teams are able to see a few games and see what they will do.

    Today Anderson seems very happy. Maybe he feels a big monkey was taken off his back. The pressure was you had to get your #1 involved, now that won't be a problem. There is no pattern for defenses to look for and best of all no disruptions for the QB in the huddle.

    Lat wek Mangini said Robo has earned some additional time because of his work on the scout teams. This week he said Robo would get some time on offense not just special teams. How long was this deal in the works?

    @ytownbrownsbacker said:

    This could very well be a turning point for Anderson. Without a cancer in the locker room and in the huddle Anderson can take command and be the field general. I truly believe that Edwards was a big part of Anderson's flop last season.

    And now we are stuck with rookies and some situational players. Is that bad? You think Buffalo might be scratching their heads and saying, who do we roll the coverage to? Who will they target in certain situations? It's all unknown until teams are able to see a few games and see what they will do.

    Today Anderson seems very happy. Maybe he feels a big monkey was taken off his back. The pressure was you had to get your #1 involved, now that won't be a problem. There is no pattern for defenses to look for and best of all no disruptions for the QB in the huddle.

    Lat wek Mangini said Robo has earned some additional time because of his work on the scout teams. This week he said Robo would get some time on offense not just special teams. How long was this deal in the works?

    Think this might have something to do with BQ not having success downfield? His #1 receiver not giving a rats ass?

    I wouldn't be too surprised to see BQ back in this season.

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  • @jadbf said:

    A 130lb guy at a bar IN CLEVELAND got under his skin. How do you think the jamokes in New York will treat him in the bars after one of his "dropsies" games. I figure he'll end up dead by the end of the year....

    Good point. If he thought he took a lot of flak in Cleveland, the NY fans lets alone the NY media are going to be a big surprise for him.

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    @ytownbrownsbacker said:

    This could very well be a turning point for Anderson. Without a cancer in the locker room and in the huddle Anderson can take command and be the field general. I truly believe that Edwards was a big part of Anderson's flop last season.

    And now we are stuck with rookies and some situational players. Is that bad? You think Buffalo might be scratching their heads and saying, who do we roll the coverage to? Who will they target in certain situations? It's all unknown until teams are able to see a few games and see what they will do.

    Today Anderson seems very happy. Maybe he feels a big monkey was taken off his back. The pressure was you had to get your #1 involved, now that won't be a problem. There is no pattern for defenses to look for and best of all no disruptions for the QB in the huddle.

    Lat wek Mangini said Robo has earned some additional time because of his work on the scout teams. This week he said Robo would get some time on offense not just special teams. How long was this deal in the works?

    Think this might have something to do with BQ not having success downfield? His #1 receiver not giving a rats ass?

    I wouldn't be too surprised to see BQ back in this season.

    AdaM said:

    Think this might have something to do with BQ not having success downfield? His #1 receiver not giving a rats ass?

    I wouldn't be too surprised to see BQ back in this season.

    I think Mangini is very up front when he say he is going to play the guy that he feels gives us the best chance to win. Unless DA shits himself, I think he will continue to be the man under center.

    But, I also think Quinn isn't done at a NFL QB. What the Brown's didn't have to support Quinn was a solid running game and a solid line. DA is a gunslinger and as you saw Sunday, he gets rid of the ball quick (sometimes before the WR gets out of his break and hits them in the helmet). Quinn is a WCO type QB and for him to be successful he needs a running game.

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    @ytownbrownsbacker said:

    This could very well be a turning point for Anderson. Without a cancer in the locker room and in the huddle Anderson can take command and be the field general. I truly believe that Edwards was a big part of Anderson's flop last season.

    And now we are stuck with rookies and some situational players. Is that bad? You think Buffalo might be scratching their heads and saying, who do we roll the coverage to? Who will they target in certain situations? It's all unknown until teams are able to see a few games and see what they will do.

    Today Anderson seems very happy. Maybe he feels a big monkey was taken off his back. The pressure was you had to get your #1 involved, now that won't be a problem. There is no pattern for defenses to look for and best of all no disruptions for the QB in the huddle.

    Lat wek Mangini said Robo has earned some additional time because of his work on the scout teams. This week he said Robo would get some time on offense not just special teams. How long was this deal in the works?

    Think this might have something to do with BQ not having success downfield? His #1 receiver not giving a rats ass?

    I wouldn't be too surprised to see BQ back in this season.

    AdaM said:

    Think this might have something to do with BQ not having success downfield? His #1 receiver not giving a rats ass?

    no

  • Zombo said:

    I agree. Anderson's team, Anderson's offense. The young guys will buy in. The vets like Furrey will buy in. No loudmouth prima donna. Addition by subtraction.

    Zombo

    BINGO....................I'm buying that

  • ITHIKAI ITHIKA

    I disagree with you BE and DA's chemistry is very good and took years to build. Eventually BE was going to have a break out game and the guy draws double coverage alot. He was in fact our only seasoned weapon and If you think he wasn't going to have a solid year with DA at the helm your smoking crack! Pro Bowl with the Browns maybe not, but with the Jets he will! We got xxxxed and thats all there is to it Stuckey isnt a #1 and we got a special teams LB! Who xxxxing cares! Once you find out we didn't get at least a 3rd and we win maybe 2 games your going to understand very quickly how much this deal sucked!

    @ithika said:

    I disagree with you BE and DA's chemistry is very good and took years to build.

    Uh, WTF are you talking about "years to build?"

    First of all it didn't take years to develop, it happened in one season, and was undone in the next. In fact it started with one game - just like MoMass - against the Bengals.

    Relax dude. You're way off the deep end.

    Year to build? LOL....now that's fooking funny.

    "I will not insult your intelligence by suggesting you really believe what you just said." William F Buckley
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    @ithika said:

    I disagree with you BE and DA's chemistry is very good and took years to build.

    Uh, WTF are you talking about "years to build?"

    First of all it didn't take years to develop, it happened in one season, and was undone in the next. In fact it started with one game - just like MoMass - against the Bengals.

    Relax dude. You're way off the deep end.

    Year to build? LOL....now that's fooking funny.

    @vegasdogg said:

    Uh, WTF are you talking about "years to build?"

    First of all it didn't take years to develop, it happened in one season, and was undone in the next. In fact it started with one game - just like MoMass - against the Bengals.

    Relax dude. You're way off the deep end.

    Year to build? LOL....now that's fooking funny.

    Actually it started at the end of 2006 when DA started those few games. Him and BE hooked up a lot.

  • I know Anderson doesn't have the greatest accuracy...however, he seemed to find MoMass right where the ball needed to be. His routes looked pretty crisp to me. Timing is everything in the NFL. Edwards used to drive me nuts with his erratic route running. In turn, he often had to work hard for the catch. (again I wont place blame on only the WR...just saying).

    I'm looking forward to seeing him and Robo progress and young WRs

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  • No question that Mangini has a huge amount of confidence in Massoquoi to make such a move right now. After seeing him rack 148 yards with zero drops who can blame him?

  • wasn't the knock on MoMass that he dropped the big catches?

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    wasn't the knock on MoMass that he dropped the big catches?

    @choco said:

    wasn't the knock on MoMass that he dropped the big catches?

    People around here brought that up around draft time. However, I don't recall reading anything like that for myself.

  • You know what would be crazy? If DA got traded right now while he has some value after that game, thatd be another Mangini WTF move

  • onefellswoop7O onefellswoop7

    I know Anderson doesn't have the greatest accuracy...however, he seemed to find MoMass right where the ball needed to be. His routes looked pretty crisp to me. Timing is everything in the NFL. Edwards used to drive me nuts with his erratic route running. In turn, he often had to work hard for the catch. (again I wont place blame on only the WR...just saying).

    I'm looking forward to seeing him and Robo progress and young WRs

    @onefellswoop7 said:

    I know Anderson doesn't have the greatest accuracy...however, he seemed to find MoMass right where the ball needed to be. His routes looked pretty crisp to me. Timing is everything in the NFL. Edwards used to drive me nuts with his erratic route running. In turn, he often had to work hard for the catch. (again I wont place blame on only the WR...just saying).

    I'm looking forward to seeing him and Robo progress and young WRs

    I really think this will be a good audition year for some of our young guys and let the staff know what direction to go in the draft. A shame Davis got put on IR, it would have been nice to see if he was a real option or just a training camp phenom.

    This trade could go a long way in determining where we are in this rebuilding process. We'll see who steps up. I'm pulling for Robo.

  • BrownIndianB BrownIndian

    @onefellswoop7 said:

    He caught a few in tough double coverage. I sure hope he is up for the challange. Leon Hall couldn't have played him any tighter and he gained 148 yards...

    (side note: BE was NEVER triple teamed lol)

    I'm dying to know what the draft picks are...BE would have walked at the season's end anyway. With a season all but over we miught as well build on what we have and get rid of a bad egg.

    You wont be too excited about the draft picks ...

    @brownindian said:

    You wont be too excited about the draft picks ...

    I'm excited as hell about a third and a fifth for a guy we get nothing for if we keep him for four more games! A second and a fifth was all that the Giants were offering and we got a player in Stuckey who easily grades a quality fifth round success and a guy that's a ST ace with good size and speed. If Edwards actually produces and gets this up to a second and fifth, this was a fabulous trade!

  • Best move mangini has made all year to bad it wasnt earlier...MoMass will be fine and funny enough Catch is the key word and BAT IT DOWN if you cant catch it 2 things edwards couldnt do at all even in single coverage....😉

    We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS!
  • ITHIKAI ITHIKA

    Im going on record right now as saying BE is going to have another Pro Bowl year and be a huge reason they make it to the playoffs we really xxxxed up on this one. The guy has insane potential and I was praying we could unlock that. It will happen in NY and we'll be fleeced once again by the Jets and Mangina.

    Are we the Jets farm system now? Iss Mangina secretly still on their payroll? We gave them a franchise QB and now a franchise WR. Mark my words folks and be ready for an 0-16 season! Wheres the fawking grocery bags!

    P.S. The optimism of getting even a 3rd and 5th is outlandish, we got bent over!

    @ithika said:

    Im going on record right now as saying BE is going to have another Pro Bowl year and be a huge reason they make it to the playoffs we really xxxxed up on this one. . . . The optimism of getting even a 3rd and 5th is outlandish, we got bent over!

    If you are right about Edwards, it's a second and a fifth. Plus a guy drafted in the 7th two years ago that was the Jets #2 receiver Stuckey and a ST Ace. I'll take that for a guy who wasn't going to sign next year and might yet get suspended by the NFL.

    Dude has 139 yards after 4 games. 78th in the NFL! Drops as many passes as he catches and is a CANCER. Who's going to give the Browns more value??

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