Anybody read . . .

[Kosar_For_President]

@chip-banks said:

. . . . that Quinn came out wearing Edward's orange shoes in some kind of show of support:

Browns backup quarterback Brady Quinn went to practice Wednesday wearing a shiny pair of orange shoes.

''They're Braylon's,'' Quinn said. ''Yeah, in honor of Braylon . . . ''

http://www.ohio.com/news/break_news/63720157.html

Hmmmmm. He went out of his way to make this point to a reporter??

Yea Chip already posted.

[Masters]

@chip-banks said:

. . . . that Quinn came out wearing Edward's orange shoes in some kind of show of support:

Browns backup quarterback Brady Quinn went to practice Wednesday wearing a shiny pair of orange shoes.

''They're Braylon's,'' Quinn said. ''Yeah, in honor of Braylon . . . ''

http://www.ohio.com/news/break_news/63720157.html

Hmmmmm. He went out of his way to make this point to a reporter??

Where do you get that Quinn went out of his way to make this point to the reporter? Sounds more like Quinn was asked something along those lines and he said yeah to it.

I hate when articles and reporters give you a persons response, but never state the question asked originally.

[Drunkandstoopid]

Is that support for Edwards, or support for being traded off?

[AdaM]

@drunkandstoopid said:

Is that support for Edwards, or support for being traded off?

If it was support for being traded off, I think it would have been a lot more deliberate. This is obviously a response when he was asked a question, he didn't walk up to a mic and say it....

[Masters]

This really is much ado about nothing

[Greythan]

Like I stated in the other thread, unless there's some real understandable context behind the shoes it was a bad move by Quinn.

Like collosally bad. It reeks of not being on board with the team.

Sorta shocking. Maybe Lum's insider reports of Quinn being a <insert your favorite term> are legit.

[calfoxwc]

Oh, stop reading stuff into all this.

It could be Edwards just gave his shoes to Quinn as a joke.

Maybe it's a joke on himself, as in, maybe he's the next to get traded since he wasn't starting.

Maybe Anderson teased him about it, and Quinn took up the joke.

Maybe all sorts of things, who cares.

Just start winning football games.

geez.

[damajuki]

May be a sign Quinn's done here just like Braylon was.

Fine by me. I'm sick of the drama. Trade him for whatever and let's move on already.

[Chip Banks]

AdaM said:

If it was support for being traded off, I think it would have been a lot more deliberate. This is obviously a response when he was asked a question, he didn't walk up to a mic and say it....

So he wears orange shoes, walks in front of a female reporter and doesn't expect a question? And then when the question comes doesn't just blow it off? If that's how it even happened. When he put on the shoes he obviously did it to be noticed. WHY?

BTW, sorry to all for double posting in a new thread. . . I looked for it in an earlier thread title and didn't see it.

[razor1414]

@drunkandstoopid said:

Is that support for Edwards, or support for being traded off?

It could be support for orange shoes. and nothing else.

[Masters]

All the article tells you is Quin wore orange shoes at practice, and someone asked about. Nothing more, nothing less. No where does it say he walked up to the reporter, walked by the reporter, or anything else.

"Browns backup quarterback Brady Quinn went to practice Wednesday wearing a shiny pair of orange shoes.

''They're Braylon's,'' Quinn said. ''Yeah, in honor of Braylon . . . ''

Maybe he was giving a wise crack answer when a reporter was silly enough to even ask him (notice the "....." at the end of the quote).

You'd think the second and third paragraph would garner more attention than Quinn commenting on his shoes.

"As Braylon Edwards was traded to the New York Jets on Wednesday morning, there were undercurrents of concern from his teammates about what the Browns' offense will be like without its talented but inconsistent No. 1 wide receiver.

No one seemed to believe that it made the Browns a better team, a question that even coach Eric Mangini dodged."

[lemosley01]

C'mon Masters, have some more Kool-Aid. This is addition by subtraction! How can you be skeptical that the team is better now that we've got some castoffs to be roster warmers.

It's much more important to focus on Quinn's shoes and make (unsubstantiated) claims about how he isn't a team player (despite all evidence to the contrary), than to worry about how this will affect the offense.

</sarcasm>

[Masters]

@lemosley01 said:

C'mon Masters, have some more Kool-Aid. This is addition by subtraction! How can you be skeptical that the team is better now that we've got some castoffs to be roster warmers.

It's much more important to focus on Quinn's shoes and make (unsubstantiated) claims about how he isn't a team player (despite all evidence to the contrary), than to worry about how this will affect the offense.

</sarcasm>

I don't know what a I was thinking.....lol

[Masters]

@shepwrite said:

Quinn's not happy. He isn't on board. He thinks he got rooked after just 10 quarters with the reins too tight and a hole opposite Edwards, who can't catch. He thinks routes were sloppy (they were). I'm not saying I want Quinn starting because I don't... but he feels like we'd all feel right now. My guess is that he wants out.

Shep, I'd agree with everything you said except for "He isn't on board". That is pure speculation based on no evidence.

[Masters]

@shepwrite said:

As far as how Edwards' absence affects the team? He had 10 catches this season and was blanked in our best offensive performance. He sucked last year. I mean REALLY sucked.

Did he draw doubles? Probably. But there are those in the NFL who think that's why the notion of a #1 is a bit overrated. Brees spreads the ball around to everybody and that policy creates its own problems.

Maybe we can get that from Mo, Robo, Furrey, and Stuckey.

There is no probably about the doubles. Edwards since 2007 generally gets a CB with saftey help over the top on passing plays.

[Masters]

@jadbf said:

You know we agree alot. But can you really come up with ANY plausible explanation in your head of why Quinn would wear those shoes out in public that makes him sound like he's supporting the Browns by doing it?

I agree it's not as big of a deal as some are making it out to be. But it's also not nothing. He's a smart kid. He KNEW that by wearing him that reporters would ask him why he was wearing them. SO what does wearing the shoes of a guy who got traded say exactly?

"I'm going to miss you Braylon, good luck in New York." ?? Come on...he could have said that to Braylon privately. Wearing those shoes is making a public statement. And I can't fathom how that public statement is "I support my coach and my team".

They are shoes. BE was not the only Browns player to ever wear them on this team. Let's for arguments sake he did wear them as nod to Edwards. What does that actually have to do w/ supporting the Browns.

Maybe he and Edwards were friends and it was Quinn's way of saying goodbye to his friend (is saying goodbye to a collegue really a crime against the team? It would be far more indicitive if he had a #17 on them or some other thing).

Maybe someone put him up to it because reporters and people would read way to much into it, and it would be a funny thing for guys in house to laugh at.

Maybe he was glad Edwards is gone and it was poking fun at Edwards.

Maybe he's had them for a while and just put them on w/o even thinking about Edwards (bad timing, nothing more).

Maybe he lost a bet and had to wear the orange shoes.

You lose me w/ the last part. Let's pretend what you said, Quinn said in public. Is that in any way not actually supporting the coach and the team by saying goodbye and wishing a teammate luck?

Shoes? Shoes? Were talking about shoes? (but imagine Allen Iverson saying it).

It's not out of the realm of posibility that it was Quinn's way of bucking the authority in Cleveland. I just think it is absolutely rediculous for people to jump to only that conclusion and treat it as if it were fact. I'd also think that if it was to give the finger to the Mangini and company, he would have never made it to the practice field in front of reporters with those on. Mangini or someone on staff would have told his ass to change them.

Not to mention to focus in on that when the second and third paragraph of that article is far more concerning about the team and their feelings about the trade. Those make it out like a lot of players aren't buying into the trade or supporting the team.

[Masters]

@jadbf said:

And you know what my answer to you is? look at what has happened. Was it good for the team? He's smart enough to realize people would have had all these questions. And yet he still chose to wear the shoes. And I bet you he gets fined for it, if we hear about it.

AS for your second part.

So you don't like when reporters state an answer but don'tstate the question that was asked?

But you're 100% ready to believe more than one person in the locker room doesn't support the trade based on this one paragraph?

"As Braylon Edwards was traded to the New York Jets on Wednesday morning, there were undercurrents of concern from his teammates about what the Browns' offense will be like without its talented but inconsistent No. 1 wide receiver.

No one seemed to believe that it made the Browns a better team, a question that even coach Eric Mangini dodged."

No quotes from any players there either.

Of course there will be rumblings about "what does this mean for the offense" ect...but to extrapolate out that this means the team is somehow against the trade is making just as much about it as you think we are about the shoes.

Look at what happened? Well, what I see is one lone article with a quick one liner about the shoes and fans going on about it on a message board. I got to be honest, that isn't much to even look at happening. If two lines from that reporter and posts from people on a message board have any impact on the team (positive or negative), than they are far worse off than anyone of us could have ever imagined.

I didn't say I believe it one way or the other. If it came off as implied, that is accidental. All I said is people are focusing on the thing about the shoes and are glossing over that other part. I said I find those paragraph of that article are far more concerning (i.e. something I would think people would and probably should focus in on more than a quick sound bite about the shoes or that Quinn was wearing orange shoes) about the team and their feelings about the trade. Along with that those make it out (i.e. the article makes it out as such, not me) like a lot of players aren't buying into the trade or supporting the team.

There wasn't any player quotes, so that doesn't even go near my state pet peeve. This would fall under a different pet peeve, which would be the "unnamed source" type.

[Masters]

@inspecta said:

Dear God.....we've been reduced to discussing the shoes our backup QB is wearing to practice.....I knew we were diehard insane fans, but never did I think we would go THERE.

It's kind of sad imo. How shitty is our favorite team when we are reduced to talking about a pair of shoes

[car ramrod]

Masters said:

It's kind of sad imo. How shitty is our favorite team when we are reduced to talking about a pair of shoes

I think its the the man love for the QB that is wearing the shoes more than the shoes itself.

[Greythan]

We're not discussing shoes ffs.

We're discussing a decision made by a player who, by all appearance, is very adept at managing his persona. Knowing this, what purpose would it serve for Quinn to make a "statement" by wearing an ex-player's shoes? It sure not a positive.

Do I think this is some mushroom cloud of an issue? No. However, it does create a kernel of concern as to Quinn's motivation and related mental state as a Cleveland Brown.