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Sebelius: Americans MUST get swine flu vaccine

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  • PBJ P
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    P PBJ wrote on last edited by
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    Look at any vaccine and any layman will tell you it is disgusting and dangerous. It takes years of training and education to work on vaccine research, not just any schmuck can do it.

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    • Westside Steve W Dedicated Reacting Well Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Conversation Starter Week One Done One Year In One Month Later Very Popular
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      W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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      No Anacanapanastan?

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      • P PBJ

        Look at any vaccine and any layman will tell you it is disgusting and dangerous. It takes years of training and education to work on vaccine research, not just any schmuck can do it.

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        Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by Kosar_For_President
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        @pbj said:

        Look at any vaccine and any layman will tell you it is disgusting and dangerous. It takes years of training and education to work on vaccine research, not just any schmuck can do it.

        Really? I'm putting a vaccine together right now. It's called washing hands your hands (I know that is a hard concept), eat right, take quality vitamins and get enough sleep.

        This time around I am not a year old and have a choice. Getting a "vaccine" for the flu? Never had a "vaccine" for the flu and I'm still here. What happened the other years of your life when you got the flu. You get sick, stay in bed for 3 days and your back to work. After years of "research" would you still eat Saccharin, take Celebrex, Vioxx, Crestor, Elidel or Protopic? All passed by the FDA. I didn't think so.

        p.s. oh and this strain of swine flu popped up this year and approved in October. Most other pills (yes even the ones outlawed) took years to develop and test.

        Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
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        • Mr. T Mr. TM
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          Mr. TM Mr. T wrote on last edited by
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          fyi: we are currently printing the permission slips to be sent home from school for the swine flu vacine.

          70m english 30m spanish

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            fyi: we are currently printing the permission slips to be sent home from school for the swine flu vacine.

            70m english 30m spanish

            Chicopee John C
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            C Chicopee John wrote on last edited by
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            @mr.-t said:

            30m spanish

            Let's try it on them first!!

            "God is great. Beer is good. People are crazy."
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              @mr.-t said:

              30m spanish

              Let's try it on them first!!

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              Mr. TM Mr. T wrote on last edited by
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              @chicopee-john said:

              Let's try it on them first!!

              Or we could test in on guantanamo bay detainees. 😆

              they are still there Mr. O

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              • Mr. TM Mr. T

                fyi: we are currently printing the permission slips to be sent home from school for the swine flu vacine.

                70m english 30m spanish

                Kosar_For_President Kosar_For_PresidentK
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                Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by
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                @mr.-t said:

                fyi: we are currently printing the permission slips to be sent home from school for the swine flu vacine.

                70m english 30m spanish

                T, print a 1% watermark saying "DO NOT TAKE". See if anyone figures it out. Or put it real small in the bottom right.

                Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
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                • Kosar_For_President Kosar_For_PresidentK
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                  Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by
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                  They are putting a LIVE virus into your body. Especially, when taken through the nose. It produces an auto-immune response, the same response and type from the outbreak in 1918. After taking the virus it is spread easier through sneezing. That is why this was spread so easily then and will be now. Don't do it.

                  Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
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                  • Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President

                    @chicopee-john said:

                    I was a kid in '76, Kosar. Please tell.................

                    PS I've been known to 'druel' on myself quite a bit NOW!

                    Sorry bud that was the year I was born, watch the video. 4 people died from the "swine" flu that year, 50 from the "vaccine". Wash your hands, take good vitamins and get sleep. You'll be fine man. Don't do it.

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                    @kosar_for_president said:

                    Sorry bud that was the year I was born, watch the video. 4 people died from the "swine" flu that year, 50 from the "vaccine". Wash your hands, take good vitamins and get sleep. You'll be fine man. Don't do it.

                    A lot of my co-workers are actually ridiculing me for not getting the free flu shot, and subsequent h1n1 shot thats coming here soon.

                    I take precautions, and I don't get sick - go figure.

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                      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                      Wait,

                      They don't do the live virus thing anymore, right?

                      The live virus is what triggered some folks to GET the virus, and the reactions caused

                      some to get a lethal collapse/paralysis of their lungs.

                      I had an uncle die from that when I was a kid...

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                        @kosar_for_president said:

                        Sorry bud that was the year I was born, watch the video. 4 people died from the "swine" flu that year, 50 from the "vaccine". Wash your hands, take good vitamins and get sleep. You'll be fine man. Don't do it.

                        A lot of my co-workers are actually ridiculing me for not getting the free flu shot, and subsequent h1n1 shot thats coming here soon.

                        I take precautions, and I don't get sick - go figure.

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                        Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by Kosar_For_President
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                        AdaM said:

                        A lot of my co-workers are actually ridiculing me for not getting the free flu shot, and subsequent h1n1 shot thats coming here soon.

                        I take precautions, and I don't get sick - go figure.

                        Even if you get sick, it's the flu. You have more of a chance dying while driving on the way to work.

                        And to make something else clear, the WHO issued a level 6 what-the-f'ck-ever alert because of how it spread and NOT the severity of danger to the individual.

                        SARS anyone?

                        Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
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                        • C calfoxwc

                          Wait,

                          They don't do the live virus thing anymore, right?

                          The live virus is what triggered some folks to GET the virus, and the reactions caused

                          some to get a lethal collapse/paralysis of their lungs.

                          I had an uncle die from that when I was a kid...

                          Kosar_For_President Kosar_For_PresidentK
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                          Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by Kosar_For_President
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                          @calfoxwc said:

                          Wait,

                          They don't do the live virus thing anymore, right?

                          The live virus is what triggered some folks to GET the virus, and the reactions caused

                          some to get a lethal collapse/paralysis of their lungs.

                          I had an uncle die from that when I was a kid...

                          Nope, Cal. This is a live virus.

                          "Flu shots are made of killed influenza virus, while FluMist is a live but weakened strain. The nasal spray is only approved in the United States, and is made by the Maryland-based MedImmune, an AstraZeneca PLC subsidiary. Four other companies are making flu shots for the U.S."

                          Live Virus

                          Add that to the ability to quickly spread this from the nose quicker. Not good.

                          Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
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                          • Mr. T Mr. TM
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                            Mr. TM Mr. T wrote on last edited by
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                            Take your Vitamin C

                            This youtube H5N1 Spray Causes Spread of Pandemic Flu

                            Flu Mist a popular over the counter live flu vaccine has been found to contain two H5N1 DNA markers, these markers seem to have been sewn into the flu mist vaccine to ensure that H5N1 or another strain of Avian Flu goes pandemic.

                            This is going to cause major problems before long, it is imperative that people are warned about flu mist.

                            Links:

                            http://www.fluscam.com/HOME.html

                            Head or Gut?
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                            • Pumpkin Eater P
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                              P Pumpkin Eater wrote on last edited by
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                              There's no reason for a healthy adult to be getting any influenza vaccination.

                              I certainly will not.

                              It's the flu for cripes sake. Worst case scenario I am sick for a few days.

                              :neutral_face:
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                                There's no reason for a healthy adult to be getting any influenza vaccination.

                                I certainly will not.

                                It's the flu for cripes sake. Worst case scenario I am sick for a few days.

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                                Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by Kosar_For_President
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                                @pumpkin-eater said:

                                There's no reason for a healthy adult to be getting any influenza vaccination.

                                I did talk to my neighbor who is a nurse. He said that he took it just in case (let alone he would lose his $32/hr job at the Cleveland Clinic). I can sort of see the point he made. But this is an exception.

                                He mentioned he would never let his loved ones take the nasal variety.

                                Don't do it.

                                Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
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                                • Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President

                                  @pumpkin-eater said:

                                  There's no reason for a healthy adult to be getting any influenza vaccination.

                                  I did talk to my neighbor who is a nurse. He said that he took it just in case (let alone he would lose his $32/hr job at the Cleveland Clinic). I can sort of see the point he made. But this is an exception.

                                  He mentioned he would never let his loved ones take the nasal variety.

                                  Don't do it.

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                                  Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by
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                                  @kosar_for_president said:

                                  I did talk to my neighbor who is a nurse. He said that he took it just in case (let alone he would lose his $32/hr job at the Cleveland Clinic). I can sort of see the point he made. But this is an exception.

                                  He mentioned he would never let his loved ones take the nasal variety.

                                  Don't do it.

                                  My wife is also a nurse. Healthcare workers are exposed to so many variations in the virus that it would be stupid for them not to get vaccinated. The cocktail they receive gives them the memory t-cells for the more common viruses of the season.

                                  But everyone is right. It's the flu.

                                  Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck. -Don Shula
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                                    A Alo wrote on last edited by Alo
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                                    There's some pretty strong evidence that the flu can trigger the onset of Parkinson's. One of the medications used to treat Parkinson's, amantadine, is also used to treat Influenza A.

                                    In and of itself, that may not be sufficient reason to get vaccinated. But it does suggest that the effects of getting the flu can be more serious than feeling crappy for a few days, even for previously healthy adults.

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                                      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                      I'm not goin all paranoid or anything...

                                      but I am concerned about the safety of this vaccine.

                                      Is there anyone who can explain why mercury and formaldehyde is in the brew?

                                      Hoorta ?

                                      Like I mentioned, when I was kid, my uncle died pretty quickly from the flu shot back then...

                                      we need some more serious information, and there are too many rumors flying fast and furiously.

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                                        H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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                                        If it's the thermisol you're worried about, ask for a swine flu shot without thermisol. They should carry both versions.

                                        The swine flu vaccine is safe. It's made almost entirely like the seasonal flu shots, and you will have the same small chance of minor side effects.

                                        Vitamins are great. But they don't allow your body to develop an immune response to swine flu. Neither does getting a good night's sleep. That's why we test and develop vaccines. This one has proven effective in clinical studies.

                                        If you don't want to get one, that's fine. But people in the target groups probably should.

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                                          C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                          Well, my Dad has a regular checkup appt today, and he's going to ask

                                          about it.

                                          I keep wondering - is there a genuine (I assume there is?) reason for trace amounts of this thermisol and mercury whatever in it?

                                          Is that what renders the virus to a level of "gets you only exposed to get antibodies, but not the actual flu...but

                                          will not hurt people at all" ?

                                          I don't know, but an explanation seems to be not forthcoming. I'd just like to know...

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