Martial Law

[Kosar_For_President]

When was this EVER done? Unfamiliar urban environment? Who the f'ck hasn't been to Indiana? LOL

p.s. Heck these are soldiers who were ALREADY trained for warfare in cities

LINK FROM THE ARMY

I thought we need MORE troops oversees?

[heckofajobbrownie]

Have you gone all T on me, Kosar? This is Ron Paul stuff. That should tell you something.

Now you're upset that Marines are doing urban-combat training? Really?

Let's get back to your original post. The act you're citing is about federal troops. National Guard troops are not federal until they're federalized because of some action, like when they're called up for the War in Iraq. At that point they're under command of the president. Before then, they're under command of the governor of each state and, yes, can be used at things like public events. (Though they're usually not.)

If you'd like to take it up with the governors of Ohio and Kentucky, that's fine. But these National Guardsmen are not under federal control. They're not creating a police state, or violating the Posse Comitatus Act.

If you're asking me if I want the marines pulling people over for traffic stops, of course not. But that's not what's happening here.

As for the troops that are training for a post-WMD event, that's the type of situation where the military might be called upon to serve a Homeland Security function. In the age of WMD and terrorism, I think it's wise to prepare for this type of event.

But I don't want them pulling people over for traffic stops in their spare time either. Because that would be a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act.

I think this is a case of something that scares Ron Paul types, but isn't something you need to worry about. I mean, come on - the guy drove around in a car and filmed National Guardsmen in the streets. I used to live right by a National Guard base and saw soldiers and men coming in and out of the base all the time. I suppose I could have made a scary video too. Every day.

[Mr. T]

Hey Heck! Do you know the definition of posse comitatus?

And why is it relevant to this topic at hand and why was this a big concern in 1775 to those who first lived here in the States?

Good Luck with your blinders heck, I hope they work for ya.

[heckofajobbrownie]

Yes, yes, I know. They're coming for us all. But don't you realize that by declaring that you're on to them you make yourself a target?

[Kosar_For_President]

@heckofajobbrownie said:

Yes, yes, I know. They're coming for us all. But don't you realize that by declaring that you're on to them you make yourself a target?

What's great is that pussies like you are going to be scratching your ass hole while I am defending my family. Too funny.

From what I have seen is you take ANY "attack" on current administration as something personal. Obama, Bush, Bush and Clinton ran this ran this country into the ground. And you make excuses for their actions. What a waste.

And don't think I don't give shit to Cal. Because you and him are identical but with a different upbringing.

[heckofajobbrownie]

Kosar, that was directed at T and his unending paranoia, not you.

I can't help it if you lost the argument you started in this thread. It shouldn't make you lash out like that. If you were the man you think you are, you'd simply admit you got a little too excited by a Lou Dobbs story.

As for me scratching my ass in a hole while you defend your family, what are you referring to? What is this scenario you envision, tough guy?

[Kosar_For_President]

@heckofajobbrownie said:

As for me scratching my ass in a hole while you defend your family, what are you referring to? What is this scenario you envision, tough guy?

I donno, hemroids or maybe you forgot to wipe?

[heckofajobbrownie]

Um, okay.

As long as you're sure you're more of a man than me because ...why again?

[Kosar_For_President]

@heckofajobbrownie said:

Um, okay.

As long as you're sure you're more of a man than me because ...why again?

Come on that was funny as shit. The "scenario" of your ass itching was that that you have hemroids or you forgot to wipe.

I don't feel like discussing. I'm having fun today. You win.

[heckofajobbrownie]

Wow. You just called me a pussy, then folded, then called me a Retard, then gave up. You really are tough!

[Kosar_For_President]

@heckofajobbrownie said:

You really are tough!

Thanks Heck!

[calfoxwc]

Dammit, I find myself agreeing with Heck here...

and once again, I tried to respond to K's post I found

in very poor taste, and I thanked him instead.

"oi"

We can put a man on the moon, but Stan can't get somebody to figure

out how to unThank somebody?

egad.