Why I will no longer be a Browns or a Cleveland sports fan
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I don't regret starting this thread whatsoever (seriously). Based on the feedback so far, I've made the right decision to drop Cleveland. All of you are missing the point, but that's your problem.
Laughter throughout the theatre here in Tampa as that segment played. Honestly, I was pissed and insulted at the time. My 2 friends looking over at me with a "f**k!-that-must-have-been-embarrasing-for-you-since-youre-a-cleveland-fan" look. Yep, that's the last straw for me. No more. Why the f**k should I care anymore. One of your own added to Cleveland's bad image with those videos. Yeah, maybe the videos by themselves aren't a big deal. But it did open my eyes to the mentality Clevelanders have toward themselves and their so-called "beloved city." Seems like you people don't mind looking like douchebags, since you're adding fuel to your own fire. You can have Cleveland, the teams, the whole deal. Clevelanders DESERVE the negative image they have. Doesn't seem like anyone is trying to change it.. would rather make it worse, like Mike Polk did. Blame him.
Laughter throughout the theatre here in Tampa as that segment played. Honestly, I was pissed and insulted at the time. My 2 friends looking over at me with a "f**k!-that-must-have-been-embarrasing-for-you-since-youre-a-cleveland-fan" look. Yep, that's the last straw for me. No more. Why the f**k should I care anymore. One of your own added to Cleveland's bad image with those videos. Yeah, maybe the videos by themselves aren't a big deal. But it did open my eyes to the mentality Clevelanders have toward themselves and their so-called "beloved city." Seems like you people don't mind looking like douchebags, since you're adding fuel to your own fire. You can have Cleveland, the teams, the whole deal. Clevelanders DESERVE the negative image they have. Doesn't seem like anyone is trying to change it.. would rather make it worse, like Mike Polk did. Blame him.
Yeah, this is an odd troll. Especially since the guy has posted 40-some times here since the start of the year and only a few times in this thread.
Living in Tampa and having watched those videos, I don't get the angst or anger. I thought they were hilarious! And hell, I lived in Cleveland for 20-some more years than this guy and continue to love the town.
Seriously, if a Tampa native rips on you for (what, liking?) another city and you then become "pissed and insulted" and then decide he's RIGHT....you have far more issues than once caring about a city that's close to your Dad's hometown.
Beanpot
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Wait a minute ... you live near Miami beach, full of hot babes, and you went to the movie .. a Michael Moore movie ... with two dudes?
You wouldn't make it in Cleveland.
The last movie I saw with two dudes, was Blues Brothers with my flesh and blood brothers. You don't see movies with dudes, dude.
You are a homo.
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Wait a minute ... you live near Miami beach, full of hot babes, and you went to the movie .. a Michael Moore movie ... with two dudes?
You wouldn't make it in Cleveland.
The last movie I saw with two dudes, was Blues Brothers with my flesh and blood brothers. You don't see movies with dudes, dude.
You are a homo.
Wait a minute ... you live near Miami beach, full of hot babes, and you went to the movie .. a Michael Moore movie ... with two dudes?
You wouldn't make it in Cleveland.
The last movie I saw with two dudes, was Blues Brothers with my flesh and blood brothers. You don't see movies with dudes, dude.
You are a homo.
I wasn't going to post again. But, after what this twat posted, I had to. You are a complete FUKCTARD, you got that? Did I say I was in Miami? No. I said TAMPA. Can you fukcing read english? And by the way, I saw the movie with a good female friend of mine who is an avid sports fan and knows I am (or was) a Cleveland fan, and the other was mutual friend of ours (who I met through her), and is a guy.
Man, this decision I've made to ditch Cleveland is getting better by the minute, and posts like this one from tweedle-dumbass helps too.
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Please go away, you hard on, i bet you don't post again on here after they suspend you.
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I don't think you are a homo are anything other than a fan who wasn't a true fan.
I release you to root for whoever it is you want to root for.
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Wait a minute ... you live near Miami beach, full of hot babes, and you went to the movie .. a Michael Moore movie ... with two dudes?
You wouldn't make it in Cleveland.
The last movie I saw with two dudes, was Blues Brothers with my flesh and blood brothers. You don't see movies with dudes, dude.
You are a homo.
I wasn't going to post again. But, after what this twat posted, I had to. You are a complete FUKCTARD, you got that? Did I say I was in Miami? No. I said TAMPA. Can you fukcing read english? And by the way, I saw the movie with a good female friend of mine who is an avid sports fan and knows I am (or was) a Cleveland fan, and the other was mutual friend of ours (who I met through her), and is a guy.
Man, this decision I've made to ditch Cleveland is getting better by the minute, and posts like this one from tweedle-dumbass helps too.
I wasn't going to post again. But, after what this twat posted, I had to. You are a complete FUKCTARD, you got that? Did I say I was in Miami? No. I said TAMPA. Can you fukcing read english? And by the way, I saw the movie with a good female friend of mine who is an avid sports fan and knows I am (or was) a Cleveland fan, and the other was mutual friend of ours (who I met through her), and is a guy.
Man, this decision I've made to ditch Cleveland is getting better by the minute, and posts like this one from tweedle-dumbass helps too.
Maybe I am just wasting my time, but I'll try to be sensible.
What all these posts should show you is exactly how much civic pride Clevelanders DO have for their city. You come talking shit and they jump all over you in defense of their city. Make sense?
But let me get this straight. You went to a movie that had a spoof mocking Cleveland and you're ditching your fandom because you think people will make fun of you (or actually do make fun of you)?
Weak, man...really weak. Hiwaygal said it best, and Clevelanders don't put up with that kind of weakness, which is why you're getting the beatdown from us. Grow a set and man up.
Look, Cleveland is not very different than most cities during this Great Recession. It's tough all over. You know, you can find those images in any city in the USA. Tampa, Miami, San Diego, Phoenix, Charlotte, Denver, etc., etc. Do you think those cities are not losing jobs? Do you think those cities don't have people who use a pay phone? Do you think that trains don't exist outside of Cleveland? Do you think those cities don't have people who make fun of their home town?
Come on, man. Think about it.
Cleveland is historically a blue collar industrial town. Most industrial jobs have been shipped overseas (the good paying jobs, anyways), and now Cleveland doesn't have the workforce to make a smooth transition into healthcare, IT, etc., etc. (Although the Cleveland Clinic is the WORLD leader in heart research, therapy, and technology.)
Cleveland will be fine, but it's gonna take 20 years to get there. The youth will get the education that their parents didn't and Cleveland will be fine after it remolds itself into a 21st century city.
If there's anything to be embarrassed about, it's the Old Boy Network politics and corporate socialism that goes with it.
-Al
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Adios.
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Wait a minute ... you live near Miami beach, full of hot babes, and you went to the movie .. a Michael Moore movie ... with two dudes?
You wouldn't make it in Cleveland.
The last movie I saw with two dudes, was Blues Brothers with my flesh and blood brothers. You don't see movies with dudes, dude.
You are a homo.
I wasn't going to post again. But, after what this twat posted, I had to. You are a complete FUKCTARD, you got that? Did I say I was in Miami? No. I said TAMPA. Can you fukcing read english? And by the way, I saw the movie with a good female friend of mine who is an avid sports fan and knows I am (or was) a Cleveland fan, and the other was mutual friend of ours (who I met through her), and is a guy.
Man, this decision I've made to ditch Cleveland is getting better by the minute, and posts like this one from tweedle-dumbass helps too.
I wasn't going to post again. But, after what this twat posted, I had to. You are a complete FUKCTARD, you got that? Did I say I was in Miami? No. I said TAMPA. Can you fukcing read english? And by the way, I saw the movie with a good female friend of mine who is an avid sports fan and knows I am (or was) a Cleveland fan, and the other was mutual friend of ours (who I met through her), and is a guy.
Man, this decision I've made to ditch Cleveland is getting better by the minute, and posts like this one from tweedle-dumbass helps too.
Ok, maybe I didn't get far enough to learn that you reside in Tampa, not Miami, and went to a stupid movie with a chick and her boyfriend and not just two dudes ... but you lost me at "I got pushed-down, my lunch money got stolen, and someone slapped a 'kick-me' sign on my back ..."
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Terrific post, Geech.
Personally, I find the homo rants and the "you wouldn't make it in Cleveland!" stuff to be silly stupid and naive, but I understand where it's coming from. The original poster, on the other hand, came in from an island owned by his freaking Dad and tried to lay claim to it as his own personal homeland in need of defense.
Beanpot
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Terrific post, Geech.
Personally, I find the homo rants and the "you wouldn't make it in Cleveland!" stuff to be silly stupid and naive, but I understand where it's coming from. The original poster, on the other hand, came in from an island owned by his freaking Dad and tried to lay claim to it as his own personal homeland in need of defense.
Beanpot
Terrific post, Geech.
Personally, I find the homo rants and the "you wouldn't make it in Cleveland!" stuff to be silly stupid and naive, but I understand where it's coming from. The original poster, on the other hand, came in from an island owned by his freaking Dad and tried to lay claim to it as his own personal homeland in need of defense.
Beanpot
Beanpot, I have to hand it to you. You're absolutely right. Seriously. I was a military brat. Lived in several different places growing up. Spent 9 years in the DC area (very rare for a military family to stay put that long), until moving to Florida in 1991. Been down here ever since. In DC, they would show Cleveland and other AFC Central teams all the time, since the Ravens didn't exist and Pittsburgh was the closest AFC town. I did adopt the Browns because of my dad being from Cleveland. Maybe that was my mistake. But I didn't have a "hometown" of my own.
Damn, Beanpot. I guess sometimes you need to hear someone else spell it out for you. It seems ridiculous... liking a team because your father likes them? He grew up there, I didn't.
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Terrific post, Geech.
Personally, I find the homo rants and the "you wouldn't make it in Cleveland!" stuff to be silly stupid and naive, but I understand where it's coming from. The original poster, on the other hand, came in from an island owned by his freaking Dad and tried to lay claim to it as his own personal homeland in need of defense.
Beanpot
Beanpot, I have to hand it to you. You're absolutely right. Seriously. I was a military brat. Lived in several different places growing up. Spent 9 years in the DC area (very rare for a military family to stay put that long), until moving to Florida in 1991. Been down here ever since. In DC, they would show Cleveland and other AFC Central teams all the time, since the Ravens didn't exist and Pittsburgh was the closest AFC town. I did adopt the Browns because of my dad being from Cleveland. Maybe that was my mistake. But I didn't have a "hometown" of my own.
Damn, Beanpot. I guess sometimes you need to hear someone else spell it out for you. It seems ridiculous... liking a team because your father likes them? He grew up there, I didn't.
Beanpot, I have to hand it to you. You're absolutely right. Seriously. I was a military brat. Lived in several different places growing up. Spent 9 years in the DC area (very rare for a military family to stay put that long), until moving to Florida in 1991. Been down here ever since. In DC, they would show Cleveland and other AFC Central teams all the time, since the Ravens didn't exist and Pittsburgh was the closest AFC town. I did adopt the Browns because of my dad being from Cleveland. Maybe that was my mistake. But I didn't have a "hometown" of my own.
Damn, Beanpot. I guess sometimes you need to hear someone else spell it out for you. It seems ridiculous... liking a team because your father likes them? He grew up there, I didn't.
Look, I have no idea if you're sincere about any of this. This could be some regular poster out casting feed looking for fish. If so, well done. Kinda?
But on the off chance you're serious, it's not at all ridiculous to like a team your Dad likes. I just think it's silly to punt that bond because some clowns make fun of you for it.
But do what you will. I'm not going to question your sexuality or your whateverness. Just go be, bud.
And if this is some rib started by a regular poster having a good time, you go ahead and giggle like mad.
Beanpot
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I wasn't going to post again. But, after what this twat posted, I had to. You are a complete FUKCTARD, you got that? Did I say I was in Miami? No. I said TAMPA. Can you fukcing read english? And by the way, I saw the movie with a good female friend of mine who is an avid sports fan and knows I am (or was) a Cleveland fan, and the other was mutual friend of ours (who I met through her), and is a guy.
Man, this decision I've made to ditch Cleveland is getting better by the minute, and posts like this one from tweedle-dumbass helps too.
Ok, maybe I didn't get far enough to learn that you reside in Tampa, not Miami, and went to a stupid movie with a chick and her boyfriend and not just two dudes ... but you lost me at "I got pushed-down, my lunch money got stolen, and someone slapped a 'kick-me' sign on my back ..."
Ok, maybe I didn't get far enough to learn that you reside in Tampa, not Miami, and went to a stupid movie with a chick and her boyfriend and not just two dudes ... but you lost me at "I got pushed-down, my lunch money got stolen, and someone slapped a 'kick-me' sign on my back ..."
ATENEARS, I think is time to start waving your iGun around a blow someone's brains out, like this fukcface.
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Hey gcarl, if you were gonna make the switch to be a fan of another team/city ... who would you pick?
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probably a Stoolers fan.
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Hey gcarl, if you were gonna make the switch to be a fan of another team/city ... who would you pick?
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Hey gcarl, if you were gonna make the switch to be a fan of another team/city ... who would you pick?
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Beanpot, I have to hand it to you. You're absolutely right. Seriously. I was a military brat. Lived in several different places growing up. Spent 9 years in the DC area (very rare for a military family to stay put that long), until moving to Florida in 1991. Been down here ever since. In DC, they would show Cleveland and other AFC Central teams all the time, since the Ravens didn't exist and Pittsburgh was the closest AFC town. I did adopt the Browns because of my dad being from Cleveland. Maybe that was my mistake. But I didn't have a "hometown" of my own.
Damn, Beanpot. I guess sometimes you need to hear someone else spell it out for you. It seems ridiculous... liking a team because your father likes them? He grew up there, I didn't.
Look, I have no idea if you're sincere about any of this. This could be some regular poster out casting feed looking for fish. If so, well done. Kinda?
But on the off chance you're serious, it's not at all ridiculous to like a team your Dad likes. I just think it's silly to punt that bond because some clowns make fun of you for it.
But do what you will. I'm not going to question your sexuality or your whateverness. Just go be, bud.
And if this is some rib started by a regular poster having a good time, you go ahead and giggle like mad.
Beanpot
But on the off chance you're serious, it's not at all ridiculous to like a team your Dad likes.
Beanpot
That's how I got here.
I'm also a Reds fan, to paint a little picture of the infernal suckitude I wallow in when it comes to professional sports.
Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck. -Don Shula -
I wasn't going to post again. But, after what this twat posted, I had to. You are a complete FUKCTARD, you got that? Did I say I was in Miami? No. I said TAMPA. Can you fukcing read english? And by the way, I saw the movie with a good female friend of mine who is an avid sports fan and knows I am (or was) a Cleveland fan, and the other was mutual friend of ours (who I met through her), and is a guy.
Man, this decision I've made to ditch Cleveland is getting better by the minute, and posts like this one from tweedle-dumbass helps too.
Maybe I am just wasting my time, but I'll try to be sensible.
What all these posts should show you is exactly how much civic pride Clevelanders DO have for their city. You come talking shit and they jump all over you in defense of their city. Make sense?
But let me get this straight. You went to a movie that had a spoof mocking Cleveland and you're ditching your fandom because you think people will make fun of you (or actually do make fun of you)?
Weak, man...really weak. Hiwaygal said it best, and Clevelanders don't put up with that kind of weakness, which is why you're getting the beatdown from us. Grow a set and man up.
Look, Cleveland is not very different than most cities during this Great Recession. It's tough all over. You know, you can find those images in any city in the USA. Tampa, Miami, San Diego, Phoenix, Charlotte, Denver, etc., etc. Do you think those cities are not losing jobs? Do you think those cities don't have people who use a pay phone? Do you think that trains don't exist outside of Cleveland? Do you think those cities don't have people who make fun of their home town?
Come on, man. Think about it.
Cleveland is historically a blue collar industrial town. Most industrial jobs have been shipped overseas (the good paying jobs, anyways), and now Cleveland doesn't have the workforce to make a smooth transition into healthcare, IT, etc., etc. (Although the Cleveland Clinic is the WORLD leader in heart research, therapy, and technology.)
Cleveland will be fine, but it's gonna take 20 years to get there. The youth will get the education that their parents didn't and Cleveland will be fine after it remolds itself into a 21st century city.
If there's anything to be embarrassed about, it's the Old Boy Network politics and corporate socialism that goes with it.
-Al
Maybe I am just wasting my time, but I'll try to be sensible.
What all these posts should show you is exactly how much civic pride Clevelanders DO have for their city. You come talking shit and they jump all over you in defense of their city. Make sense?
But let me get this straight. You went to a movie that had a spoof mocking Cleveland and you're ditching your fandom because you think people will make fun of you (or actually do make fun of you)?
Weak, man...really weak. Hiwaygal said it best, and Clevelanders don't put up with that kind of weakness, which is why you're getting the beatdown from us. Grow a set and man up.
Look, Cleveland is not very different than most cities during this Great Recession. It's tough all over. You know, you can find those images in any city in the USA. Tampa, Miami, San Diego, Phoenix, Charlotte, Denver, etc., etc. Do you think those cities are not losing jobs? Do you think those cities don't have people who use a pay phone? Do you think that trains don't exist outside of Cleveland? Do you think those cities don't have people who make fun of their home town?
Come on, man. Think about it.
Cleveland is historically a blue collar industrial town. Most industrial jobs have been shipped overseas (the good paying jobs, anyways), and now Cleveland doesn't have the workforce to make a smooth transition into healthcare, IT, etc., etc. (Although the Cleveland Clinic is the WORLD leader in heart research, therapy, and technology.)
Cleveland will be fine, but it's gonna take 20 years to get there. The youth will get the education that their parents didn't and Cleveland will be fine after it remolds itself into a 21st century city.
If there's anything to be embarrassed about, it's the Old Boy Network politics and corporate socialism that goes with it.
-Al
great post, I agree 100%.
to the op,
btw in those videos, they were taken when one of the roads were temporarily closed and he shot them on one of the greyest days, nonetheless they are funny and anyone who has been in cleveland knows it's not like that. you name me a city, and I can shoot a video of it to make it look bad(including weather conditions).
so to sum things up: Fvck you, go root for the Bucs.
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I finally got curious enough to watch the two videos and they cracked me up. We've all tried to describe personal experiences and, when faced with blank looks, resorted to "I guess you had to be there." I think it's the same thing with Clevelanders and these videos. You just have to have lived there to really get it.
Cleveland is a gritty town that's experienced more downs than ups yet the people there are tough, can take just about anything, and still survive with a smile on their faces. There's not a thing in those You-tubes that hasn't been controversial IN Cleveland. Before you abandon the Browns, Tribe, Cavs, etc., I suggest you get to know a little more about what Clevelanders love about their home town and what makes native Clevelanders gravitate to one another.
I nearly took hold of the "delete" key and erased all of the 'homo' comments because I really find them distasteful. They certainly don't show the best side of Clevelanders. "Gritty" and "rude" are not the same thing. When I was growing up, I heard a lot of heated discussions on every topic under the sun. My aunts, uncles, cousins, and neighbors would all join in, but there was never name-calling and there were never hard feelings. I wish it were more like that here on this message board. One can be from a blue collar background and still behave with some class.
I think it's great that you became a fan of Cleveland teams because of your Dad. I know my Mom and Dad were a big part of why I became a fan. It was the great experiences we had as a family when we were cheering for our teams that made for some special memories. Shared hardship, frustration, sadness, celebration and other emotions derived from shared experiences cause roots to grow deep. It's the commonality of the experiences that pull us together. In the tough times we can shore each other up. When we're not bickering or mudslinging, the same thing happens here on the message boards.
I, for one, hope you'll stick around. I welcome anyone who's never been to Cleveland but is still willing to give it a shot. One of these days we'll get back to sharing some good times again and it will feel like it was worth it.
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