Alex Mack

[ballpeen]

Thanks for bringing that up EJ...the guy is starting to show what is in store...and it is good.

[car ramrod]

@ballpeen said:

Thanks for bringing that up EJ...the guy is starting to show what is in store...and it is good.

You got that right. When we drafted him I lost my mind saying WTF are we doing............ But he will be a good one for a long time. I'm excited about this pick. Next years draft is so huge for our franchise. We can NOT fukc this draft up.

[DeadWombat]

I agree with whats been said so far. Mack has looked real good. I LOVED that play when he pulled out and left on that sweep with Cribbs. Good stuff! He took a while to get a firm foot-hold on his position, but man, I hope he just continues to get better.

[Gips]

No doubt mack is coming into his own and frailee is a very good RG for as long as he lasts..

[OconRecon]

God I love lineman threads. Kudos.

[Squintz]

Now if he can just snap into the shotgun!!!!

[calfoxwc]

Don't underestimate how hard it is for a rookie CENTER to come in

and take over. I don't remember another, fwiw, to do it.

Mack doesn't seem to be struggling - he's dominating like Joe Thomas is.

Very cool.

During the game tonight, they said the Jets have arguably the best offensive line in the NFL.

Big thanks to Mangini for that.

[DaBrowns41]

Imagine how great this OL could be if we can get an effective RG and RT?

Fraley filled in great, but he's obviously not the future at the position. Mack made great strides, and he's showing me that we may not have effed that pick up.

I'm loving a line that starts with JT, Steinbach, and Mack.

[RestinPeace]

@dabrowns41 said:

Imagine how great this OL could be if we can get an effective RG and RT?

Fraley filled in great, but he's obviously not the future at the position. Mack made great strides, and he's showing me that we may not have effed that pick up.

I'm loving a line that starts with JT, Steinbach, and Mack.

Steinbach has no future here either. Overpaid, subpar run blocker. Got slammed down by the Ravens.

[DaBrowns41]

@restinpeace said:

Steinbach has no future here either. Overpaid, subpar run blocker. Got slammed down by the Ravens.

He's a fantastic pass blocker, however, especially next to JT.

[ballpeen]

@car-ramrod said:

You got that right. When we drafted him I lost my mind saying WTF are we doing............ But he will be a good one for a long time. I'm excited about this pick. Next years draft is so huge for our franchise. We can NOT fukc this draft up.

For all the heat Mangini takes, I think he knows good football players and which kind he wants to fit in to our mold.

I don't think he is going to make many poor selections when picking players ( note that there is always a failure rate all coaches deal with so we can't be unrealistic)

I have a feeling the extra picks we have for next year are going to go a long way towards setting our foundation.

So far Mack and MoMass look to be real nice picks and I can't help but think both Robo and Vinuke are going to be at least good players.

I think our drafting under mangini is going to be solid on a consistent basis.

[mopaji]

Veikune is a mystery still. First, he has to adjust to the NFL and then he has to adjust to playing a 3-4. That is not easy. If he gets significant playing time this year without and injury in front of him, I'll be shocked.

You should have been here 2 weeks ago when people on here were ripping Mangini apart and calling for his termination over his terrible draft and Mack being a bust. Of course, I was called names for suggesting that we all calm down and let the center develope. But whatever, I'm just a DA loving "tard" Who "doesn't have any more inside information on the Browns than anyone else" so what do I know. Besides, Mangini didn't make personell decisions in NY it was clearly their GM.

If the player isn't really fast, or if it's not a turnover or a TD; than I have no clue what goes on in a football game. I'm not that much unlike a lot of other members on here though really.

[Kosar_For_President]

@car-ramrod said:

Absolutely agree 100%. He is going to be a stud for us. He has gotten better with every snap from training camp on. I have to be honest, in training camp I said WTF did we pick this chump for? But having to go against S. Rogers every practice has really paid off for him. Throw in that he is smart and wants to be good and you have yourself a very good player.

And you know Mangini is going to. He did it in NY. I like it, it's Mangenius.

[Greythan]

Get off your high horse Mop.

This board has its share of inciters who don't seem to care about the game. However, there are a ton of real football fans here who are students and most of them are quite happy with Mack. You aren't the lone shining light of football wisdom. Hate to break it to you.

[CardDawg]

Just key on Mack during the games, you will be impressed

[RPrepublic]

@carddawg said:

Just key on Mack during the games, you will be impressed

Thats what I like to do. I have NFL Rewind were i can watch all the games from 08 and this season and i try to really cue in on certain positions like the lines, LB's stuff like that. I swear ive watched all our games 08-09 at least 3 times and the NY game last year about 10 times(whenever i get depressed about the Browns). I didn't really start watching football till the later half of last year so i try and do a lot of studying on Rewind and on all the boards in whatnot. I have to say ive def learned more on these boards in almost a year than some people i talk to that have been football guys their whole lives. So yeah anyone wants to really "scout" the Browns or our competitors should check out the NFL Rewind. Its all game no commercials and the average game lasts about 2 hours, you can pause and rewind all that good stuff.

[D'Qwimbley]

@dabrowns41 said:

Imagine how great this OL could be if we can get an effective RG and RT?

Fraley filled in great, but he's obviously not the future at the position. Mack made great strides, and he's showing me that we may not have effed that pick up.

I'm loving a line that starts with JT, Steinbach, and Mack.

Are you the same DB41 from FF?

[BrownB499]

@calfoxwc said:

Don't underestimate how hard it is for a rookie CENTER to come in

and take over. I don't remember another, fwiw, to do it.

Nick Mangold : NY Jets-Coach Eric Mangini

[bandwagon]

Lots of talk here about the Mack-Mangold similarity... but the Browns, if they're smart, will find a better likeness by looking farther south: The Dolphins are a good example of a team of JAGs that have turned things around relatively quickly. They've got a bunch of guys filling roles in addition to a strong run-blocking OL. You only hear about the running back for a QB with the WildDawg. But another characteristic of it is a fullback behind an unbalanced OL with a second tackle lined up where a TE (who goes weak side) usually is. If Cleveland can find some way to leverage their OL with a similar package of muscle and supplement their backfield with a couple playmakers like Cribbs they might find success sooner rather than later. It's a copycat league after all.

[Sez.EJ]

There was a lot of criticism on Mangini/Kokonis trade downs in the draft and not getting "impact' players.. I myself was happy with this pick.... OK so a center is not a sexy first round pick..I'll give ya that..but when you look at the DT's in our division Hampton, Ngata mainly.. we needed a young pup to sick on them and drive them out of the hole.. I have been tired of seeing those guys collapse the pocket from the inside. I think he and Thomas will solidify this line for the next decade. I believe you build a team from the middle out. center, DT, linebacker, safety, .. then move out from there.. Mangini does have a clue.. I will be curious to see where this draft class stands in 3 years.. We have 11 picks going into next year.. our first will likely be in the top 8 or so.. We just need to keep a coaching/mangagment staff around longer than 3 years before we start ripping the team apart at the seams again.... We will never rebuild if we are constantly rebuilding.. I am sick of new coaches every 3 years.. While I am not sold on Mangini... I think he knows his stuff and needs to be here at least 5-6 year so we can at least develop a consistant philosophy to give this team a fighting chance at becoming dominant once again.

Can't wait to see him battle Hampton tomorrow!!!