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  • Masters said:

    But WPB, Sunday's game was a game where neither team were clicking on all cylinders. Both teams had very bad days and neither played in a manner deserving of a win. If not for a bone head play by Parrish, that game probably ends in a tie.

    Quite possibly...but it didn't. That is the point. On a day our QB goes 2/17 for 23 yards...WE FOUND A WAY TO WIN!

    That is enough for me...for NOW!

    @wpb-dawg-fan said:

    Quite possibly...but it didn't. That is the point. On a day our QB goes 2/17 for 23 yards...WE FOUND A WAY TO WIN!

    That is enough for me...for NOW!

    I wish I could share your optimistic spin on the game.

  • FREAKofSTEEL08 said:

    TEAM CONFIDENCE however Does understand "Pretty" , more so it understands "Ugly" and winning a game that Nobody deserved to win...and it doesn't build confidence.

    I just threw up a little bit, but you're right. Look at the confidence built from a loss last week where we had a rookie that everyone was high on finally have a break out game. DA threw some real beauties to him and we saw the birth of a legitimate #1 WR. Granted, I was pissed when we let BE go, b/c he'd continue to take away DB heat for MoMass this season. I'd personally rather have used BE in that regard to develop MoMass, and then tag BE in the offseason to get 1 & 3. (Or was BE UFA after the season?)

    @legacy-fan said:

    I just threw up a little bit, but you're right. Look at the confidence built from a loss last week where we had a rookie that everyone was high on finally have a break out game. DA threw some real beauties to him and we saw the birth of a legitimate #1 WR. Granted, I was pissed when we let BE go, b/c he'd continue to take away DB heat for MoMass this season. I'd personally rather have used BE in that regard to develop MoMass, and then tag BE in the offseason to get 1 & 3. (Or was BE UFA after the season?)

    He'd be a RFA unless a new collective bargining agreement was reached before the start of next season.

  • @wpb-dawg-fan said:

    Quite possibly...but it didn't. That is the point. On a day our QB goes 2/17 for 23 yards...WE FOUND A WAY TO WIN!

    That is enough for me...for NOW!

    I wish I could share your optimistic spin on the game.

    Masters said:

    I wish I could share your optimistic spin on the game.

    Maybe your expectations are too high. Why? Aside from being sick of losing, I have looked at this season by itself. I am not comparing the team to any other year or any other of the 31 teams. Starting from square 1 I'm looking for improvement. Any other way of evaluating this team will only make your season harder to stomach.

  • Masters said:

    I wish I could share your optimistic spin on the game.

    Maybe your expectations are too high. Why? Aside from being sick of losing, I have looked at this season by itself. I am not comparing the team to any other year or any other of the 31 teams. Starting from square 1 I'm looking for improvement. Any other way of evaluating this team will only make your season harder to stomach.

    @vegasdogg said:

    Maybe your expectations are too high. Why? Aside from being sick of losing, I have looked at this season by itself. I am not comparing the team to any other year or any other of the 31 teams. Starting from square 1 I'm looking for improvement. Any other way of evaluating this team will only make your season harder to stomach.

    Oh, my expectations weren't very high. I figured this as a 6 win team at best. But outside of the Cincy game, I have yet to see anything close to a complete game from all phases of the team. I did expect better than that 5 weeks in, especially since that is what EM was supposed to bring, along with stopping the run (which CLE still can't do). I didn't expect to see exactly what we saw from day 1 to the final day of the RAC era.

    I don't think it was expecting too much in not expecting the team to play what was one of the most embarrasing NFL games I have ever seen (obviously BUF is just as culpable as CLE for that game having that distiction).

  • @wpb-dawg-fan said:

    You are right...it does. The point is you got it going the wrong direction.

    Winning PRETTY is when you win with ALL CYLINDERS CLICKING! A complete game. You did your VERY BEST!!! You SHOULD win those.

    When you can WIN UGLY...that means you can win when you are NOT PLAYING YOUR BEST!!! These are the games you STEAL! These are the ones you look back on and say...we must be better than we thought, because we PULLED THAT ONE OUT ON A BAD DAY!!!

    I will not only TAKE this win....but I will CELEBRATE this win!!!

    But WPB, Sunday's game was a game where neither team were clicking on all cylinders. Both teams had very bad days and neither played in a manner deserving of a win. If not for a bone head play by Parrish, that game probably ends in a tie.

    Masters said:

    But WPB, Sunday's game was a game where neither team were clicking on all cylinders. Both teams had very bad days and neither played in a manner deserving of a win. If not for a bone head play by Parrish, that game probably ends in a tie.

    But it didn't...it ended with us winning. Why is that such a hard thing to swallow? ANY GIVEN SUNDAY!!! It is a phrase that is used commonly in football. It means that in any given week you can have anything happen. Maybe the starting QB's girlfriend told him she had been cheating on him the night before the game. The players are just people going to work and doing a job. And trust the fact that to them it is a JOB. How many of the teams are stocked with players that grew up rooting for the team that they play on?

    My point being that this team is not good. We all know it. But it is getting better with each week. It's obvious that from what we've seen we do not have the QB of our choice or even thought we should have at this juncture. In either DA or BQ. Not that it's either QB's fault. They both would be better in a system that is more stable. We are not stable yet. Every week is a new test and so far from what i've seen the fundamentals have improved in the trenches which is where we had the worst trouble at the start of the season. I think Mangini isn't as focused on the QB situation as the fans are because he knows without the starting line being good NO QB stands a chance. We need to aquire a VET QB to help for the rest of the season or just take our lumps week by week. I think Mangini is the week by week kinda guy though...

  • Masters said:

    But WPB, Sunday's game was a game where neither team were clicking on all cylinders. Both teams had very bad days and neither played in a manner deserving of a win. If not for a bone head play by Parrish, that game probably ends in a tie.

    But it didn't...it ended with us winning. Why is that such a hard thing to swallow? ANY GIVEN SUNDAY!!! It is a phrase that is used commonly in football. It means that in any given week you can have anything happen. Maybe the starting QB's girlfriend told him she had been cheating on him the night before the game. The players are just people going to work and doing a job. And trust the fact that to them it is a JOB. How many of the teams are stocked with players that grew up rooting for the team that they play on?

    My point being that this team is not good. We all know it. But it is getting better with each week. It's obvious that from what we've seen we do not have the QB of our choice or even thought we should have at this juncture. In either DA or BQ. Not that it's either QB's fault. They both would be better in a system that is more stable. We are not stable yet. Every week is a new test and so far from what i've seen the fundamentals have improved in the trenches which is where we had the worst trouble at the start of the season. I think Mangini isn't as focused on the QB situation as the fans are because he knows without the starting line being good NO QB stands a chance. We need to aquire a VET QB to help for the rest of the season or just take our lumps week by week. I think Mangini is the week by week kinda guy though...

    @xanthros said:

    But it didn't...it ended with us winning. Why is that such a hard thing to swallow? ANY GIVEN SUNDAY!!! It is a phrase that is used commonly in football. It means that in any given week you can have anything happen. Maybe the starting QB's girlfriend told him she had been cheating on him the night before the game. The players are just people going to work and doing a job. And trust the fact that to them it is a JOB. How many of the teams are stocked with players that grew up rooting for the team that they play on?

    My point being that this team is not good. We all know it. But it is getting better with each week. It's obvious that from what we've seen we do not have the QB of our choice or even thought we should have at this juncture. In either DA or BQ. Not that it's either QB's fault. They both would be better in a system that is more stable. We are not stable yet. Every week is a new test and so far from what i've seen the fundamentals have improved in the trenches which is where we had the worst trouble at the start of the season. I think Mangini isn't as focused on the QB situation as the fans are because he knows without the starting line being good NO QB stands a chance. We need to aquire a VET QB to help for the rest of the season or just take our lumps week by week. I think Mangini is the week by week kinda guy though...

    If continuing to be at the bottom of the league in offense, rush defense, and playing a game like Sundays is getting better, this team is up shit creek imo.

  • @xanthros said:

    But it didn't...it ended with us winning. Why is that such a hard thing to swallow? ANY GIVEN SUNDAY!!! It is a phrase that is used commonly in football. It means that in any given week you can have anything happen. Maybe the starting QB's girlfriend told him she had been cheating on him the night before the game. The players are just people going to work and doing a job. And trust the fact that to them it is a JOB. How many of the teams are stocked with players that grew up rooting for the team that they play on?

    My point being that this team is not good. We all know it. But it is getting better with each week. It's obvious that from what we've seen we do not have the QB of our choice or even thought we should have at this juncture. In either DA or BQ. Not that it's either QB's fault. They both would be better in a system that is more stable. We are not stable yet. Every week is a new test and so far from what i've seen the fundamentals have improved in the trenches which is where we had the worst trouble at the start of the season. I think Mangini isn't as focused on the QB situation as the fans are because he knows without the starting line being good NO QB stands a chance. We need to aquire a VET QB to help for the rest of the season or just take our lumps week by week. I think Mangini is the week by week kinda guy though...

    If continuing to be at the bottom of the league in offense, rush defense, and playing a game like Sundays is getting better, this team is up shit creek imo.

    Masters said:

    If continuing to be at the bottom of the league in offense, rush defense, and playing a game like Sundays is getting better, this team is up shit creek imo.

    Nice to see you again Masters.

    Same thing different day.

  • Masters said:

    If continuing to be at the bottom of the league in offense, rush defense, and playing a game like Sundays is getting better, this team is up shit creek imo.

    Nice to see you again Masters.

    Same thing different day.

    @car-ramrod said:

    Nice to see you again Masters.

    Same thing different day.

    Same to you.

  • @car-ramrod said:

    Nice to see you again Masters.

    Same thing different day.

    Same to you.

    Masters said:

    Same to you.

    😉

  • @jadbf said:

    Since I am Lothe to start my own threads, I thought I'd use this good thread by Flugs about the positives from the Buffalo game to ask a question.

    While I agree with

    "3) Running Game - anything wrong with 2 different RBs going over 100 yards on the day in successive weeks? Does anyone think our defense is complaining about the time of possession upgrade the last 2 weeks? Now opponents have to prepare for 2 different styles of RB capable of gaining more than 100 yards on them. That doesn't suck.

    "

    I was hoping to at least see Harrison get a few more carries WITH Jamal. But I didn't see the game. So my question for anyone who did see the game would be.

    Were there any runs where you felt Lewis left yards on the field? If not then I have no problem with Harrison getting only 8 of the 39 carries.

    But to be a valuable memeber, you have to start threads (or so I was once told).

    To your question, yes their were yards left on the field in the running game do to Lewis's lack of speed. Especially when facing a team that was minus all of their starting LBs and a starting Saftey.