Derek Anderson is going to rip the Steelers a new A-hole
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I have no idea if his stats were correct, it really doesn't matter to me as I'm looking ahead. I just found it odd that a Browns fan would come to the defense of a Steeler fan.
I know the temptation and hate are high and irresistible, but My God, take it to the secret Brady Board, it is so unwanted here.
lol Really ATE? Im glad other were able to point out this gem...
@atenears said:
I understand your views and concerns. Noted.Had the Browns drafted Quinn at #3, they would have paid $20+mil more for him. Even if they pick in the Top-10 next year and needed a QB, they would have paid $20+mil more for one.
In the scenario that they landed him, they will save $20+mil and have a QB to groom for an entire season before we get to your gloom-n-doom draft.
I know that you like to discount Offensive Linemen as nobodys. However, ever see a bar fight between two 300lb'ers? The agile one makes mince meat out of the nobody, and the longer the fight last the worst the beating in the end will be. Keep that in mind.
You've also made many references to the Safety position being a dime-a-dozen and I have always disagreed with you on that too. Let's just agree to disagree.
On last note on Joe Thomas, I seen on the News last night that he has only committed 3 penalties in something like 2,736 snaps. I know that you are a big Penalty guy (see critism on Wimbley), thought you might enjoy that stat.
Quinn is much better than Couch, with many, many more years of real NFL-style offense under his belt, a stronger arm and more elusive ... plus will probably prove to be $40-mil less expensive. You gave Couch an endorsement and a year to prove you wrong, give the same to Quinn. I am, and I wasn't any Quinn supporter by any means during talk about using a #3 overall on him.
Quinn & JT are water under the bridge ... they are on-board, let it ride out ... now tell me about Eric Wright ... WTF did we see in him?
you sure are a great evaluator of talent, Joe Thomas turned out great, so that pick was solid ate, you support Quinn here....
but then you ask what they saw in Wright? He hasnt caused any trouble and alot of people think high of him (I dont) but I think you believe he's a pretty solid corner.
All Im saying is that all of our judgements can be waaay off, I could be wrong, Quinn could truely suck, DA could be great. I wish there was a way we all could be coaches for a day to see if we could truely hack it.
I'd beat the steelqueers though im sure, and if DA doesnt... again, that will be one more slash against him
lol Really ATE? Im glad other were able to point out this gem...
you sure are a great evaluator of talent, Joe Thomas turned out great, so that pick was solid ate, you support Quinn here....
but then you ask what they saw in Wright? He hasnt caused any trouble and alot of people think high of him (I dont) but I think you believe he's a pretty solid corner.
All Im saying is that all of our judgements can be waaay off, I could be wrong, Quinn could truely suck, DA could be great. I wish there was a way we all could be coaches for a day to see if we could truely hack it.
I'd beat the steelqueers though im sure, and if DA doesnt... again, that will be one more slash against him
LOL, WTF was all of that? Were those old quotes from me or what?
I said Quinn was better than Couch? How does Couch measure up to me, good or bad? Where are my quotes from 1997 on Couch? That may tell us how much worth this endorsement is.
I diss'ed Joe Thomas? News to me.
I diss'ed Eric Wright? Other than maybe I thought they reached and could have had him later ... hey, can you go back and tell me how I felt about Julie Brown in the 8th grade?
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3-1*
*Really 3-0-1 with a missed call.
Amen...Cincy was wide right.
Browns have a ways to go, but the upset win this week will get them around the corner faster than we thought.
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lol Really ATE? Im glad other were able to point out this gem...
you sure are a great evaluator of talent, Joe Thomas turned out great, so that pick was solid ate, you support Quinn here....
but then you ask what they saw in Wright? He hasnt caused any trouble and alot of people think high of him (I dont) but I think you believe he's a pretty solid corner.
All Im saying is that all of our judgements can be waaay off, I could be wrong, Quinn could truely suck, DA could be great. I wish there was a way we all could be coaches for a day to see if we could truely hack it.
I'd beat the steelqueers though im sure, and if DA doesnt... again, that will be one more slash against him
LOL, WTF was all of that? Were those old quotes from me or what?
I said Quinn was better than Couch? How does Couch measure up to me, good or bad? Where are my quotes from 1997 on Couch? That may tell us how much worth this endorsement is.
I diss'ed Joe Thomas? News to me.
I diss'ed Eric Wright? Other than maybe I thought they reached and could have had him later ... hey, can you go back and tell me how I felt about Julie Brown in the 8th grade?
LOL, WTF was all of that? Were those old quotes from me or what?
I said Quinn was better than Couch? How does Couch measure up to me, good or bad? Where are my quotes from 1997 on Couch? That may tell us how much worth this endorsement is.
I diss'ed Joe Thomas? News to me.
I diss'ed Eric Wright? Other than maybe I thought they reached and could have had him later ... hey, can you go back and tell me how I felt about Julie Brown in the 8th grade?
I diddnt say you dissed thomas, I said that was a good pick, I was complimenting you, Im just pointing out that you 180'd on Quinn, even talking about his "strong arm", and that you also dissed eric wright.
Im just pointing out that we all make some bad judgement calls once in a while
whether it be predicting steelers vs. browns
or BQ vs. DA
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LOL, WTF was all of that? Were those old quotes from me or what?
I said Quinn was better than Couch? How does Couch measure up to me, good or bad? Where are my quotes from 1997 on Couch? That may tell us how much worth this endorsement is.
I diss'ed Joe Thomas? News to me.
I diss'ed Eric Wright? Other than maybe I thought they reached and could have had him later ... hey, can you go back and tell me how I felt about Julie Brown in the 8th grade?
I diddnt say you dissed thomas, I said that was a good pick, I was complimenting you, Im just pointing out that you 180'd on Quinn, even talking about his "strong arm", and that you also dissed eric wright.
Im just pointing out that we all make some bad judgement calls once in a while
whether it be predicting steelers vs. browns
or BQ vs. DA
I diddnt say you dissed thomas, I said that was a good pick, I was complimenting you, Im just pointing out that you 180'd on Quinn, even talking about his "strong arm", and that you also dissed eric wright.
Im just pointing out that we all make some bad judgement calls once in a while
whether it be predicting steelers vs. browns
or BQ vs. DA
Dude, believe me, I have made plenty of errors over the years here and proudly wear them on my shirt sleeve. Quinn don't crack the top-20, even if I pimped him at one time. I was excited about that draft, because we freaking did something on draft day to try to improve the team. Hated the kid with our first pick, but liked that we traded back into the first round for him.
I'm sure Zippy will be along soon to list as many of my blunders off the tip of his head ...
(I was dead on about Torry Holt, Ricky Williams, the Ditka Trade & Drew Brees though in 1998)
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I diddnt say you dissed thomas, I said that was a good pick, I was complimenting you, Im just pointing out that you 180'd on Quinn, even talking about his "strong arm", and that you also dissed eric wright.
Im just pointing out that we all make some bad judgement calls once in a while
whether it be predicting steelers vs. browns
or BQ vs. DA
Dude, believe me, I have made plenty of errors over the years here and proudly wear them on my shirt sleeve. Quinn don't crack the top-20, even if I pimped him at one time. I was excited about that draft, because we freaking did something on draft day to try to improve the team. Hated the kid with our first pick, but liked that we traded back into the first round for him.
I'm sure Zippy will be along soon to list as many of my blunders off the tip of his head ...
(I was dead on about Torry Holt, Ricky Williams, the Ditka Trade & Drew Brees though in 1998)
(I was dead on about Torry Holt, Ricky Williams, the Ditka Trade & Drew Brees though in 1998)
I'm "dead on" in my 21-20 Browns prediction this week, just wait. And for good measure, I have Berea over Olmsted Falls tonight as well...upset weekend, here we come.
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I went back and read that whole (old) quote (by me). And I stand 100% behind EVERYTHING I said there. BTW< I wasn't diss'ing Eeric WRight, he was a nobody to me. I was asking Rich to shed some light on him, because I believe he was pimping him and I wanted to know "what we saw in him" ... I'm a DB Homo, I was excited we felt highly about a CB and wanted to know more.
BTW, saying someone has a stronger arm than Tim Couch, is like saying that the piece of gum you use to get in the package of trading cards was much better than a single chicklet.
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I'm "dead on" in my 21-20 Browns prediction this week, just wait. And for good measure, I have Berea over Olmsted Falls tonight as well...upset weekend, here we come.
LOL, I'm heading out to Mentor to watch my Mentor Cardinals send 7-0 Maple Hts home crying (again).
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Gotcha accuracy doesn't matter here.
So do you think it matters whether it's Mendehol or Parker running the ball for Pitt? Seems their run game is getting on track at the same time our run defense is getting better.
In my book, Accuracy definately matters tremendously, unless your arguing with a Steeler Fem, then you just make up shit to suit your argument.
In regards to Menopause or Parker, I'm not sure. I think Menopause, because I smell some mistakes and two turn overs. I hope they don't soften us up with Menopause, then open us up like a vagina with Parker ... (slapping face) but I can't wait until Rogers just goes off on these poor bastards.
Hey, what to you think they do with the face mask they saw off of Ben Gay Ben's mug after we cripple him? Man, I'd like to have a pair of those for book-ends.
In my book, Accuracy definately matters tremendously, unless your arguing with a Steeler Fem, then you just make up shit to suit your argument.
In regards to Menopause or Parker, I'm not sure. I think Menopause, because I smell some mistakes and two turn overs. I hope they don't soften us up with Menopause, then open us up like a vagina with Parker ... (slapping face) but I can't wait until Rogers just goes off on these poor bastards.
Hey, what to you think they do with the face mask they saw off of Ben Gay Ben's mug after we cripple him? Man, I'd like to have a pair of those for book-ends.
woops sorry I must have missed this one with how hopping this place is lately.
I think I'd rather see parker. mendenhal stretches the edge a little more than I'd like.
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Zombo said:
Me too.
Everyone of those sold-out coaches that laughed at us as studio hosts last week would have LOVED that win as a coach.
That was a coaches game. Any tiny thing goes wrong and you could lose field position, momentum, and the game.
The game was close from start to finsish, with each side trying not to give up the big play.
Our defense hit hard, swarmed, got after the passer, gang-tackled ... what more could you ask for?
Everyone is acting like we just out-stumbled the 76 Bucs or couldn't beat a college team. We just shut down Marshawn Lynch, Fred Jackson, Terrel Owens and Lee Evans for three hours without giving them a whiff of the end zone.
This team is playing VERY tough. Two weeks in a row. Tough Defense. Tough Special Teams. Tough Running Game ... If Anderson develops some timing with these young receivers and gets guys like Momass, Cribbs and Harrison in space .... we can be a good football team the rest of the year.
Yeah, I said it ... Good Team This Year.
I'm not sure where all the whiney pansies that cared more about "thanks buttons" and "QB ratings" than tough-ass wins went to, but it's been kind of nice around here the past couple days ... we're talking football like adults during Steeler week.
This is the toughest Browns team the Steelers have faced since Belichick.
Zombo
I agree I think Mangini would love to see Anderson develop some timing with these recievers and actually expects it to start this week. but if Anderson fails to do that, I have no fear that Mangini will make the right decisions to help this team win. even if it means looking silly by changing QBS again.
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Zombo said:
Yeah, I said it ... Good Team This Year.
I'm not sure where all the whiney pansies that cared more about "thanks buttons" and "QB ratings" than tough-ass wins went to, but it's been kind of nice around here the past couple days ... we're talking football like adults during Steeler week.
This is the toughest Browns team the Steelers have faced since Belichick.
Zombo
Man, I just got done reading that Pep Talk and tackled a secretary at the water fountain outside my office!
(Hold-on, I'm being summonded to the HR office ... brb)
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LOL, I'm heading out to Mentor to watch my Mentor Cardinals send 7-0 Maple Hts home crying (again).
my Benedictine Bengals are falling off the map
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my Benedictine Bengals are falling off the map
Yeah no kidding ... WTF, I haven't even heard their name mentioned in at least two years. What happened to the RB factory over there?
(BTW Bob, Go Braves!)
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Glad you're back Stan.
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my Benedictine Bengals are falling off the map
Yeah no kidding ... WTF, I haven't even heard their name mentioned in at least two years. What happened to the RB factory over there?
(BTW Bob, Go Braves!)
Yeah no kidding ... WTF, I haven't even heard their name mentioned in at least two years. What happened to the RB factory over there?
(BTW Bob, Go Braves!)
Well, in the 05/06 school year, Benedictine went through some.... changes... a new Principal and Vice Principal were brought in making a HARD push on academics, and being fairly strict with football players and grades fired a bunch of well known/liked and knowledgeable teachers.
Then, in the 2008-2009 year those 2 were fired due to some issues.. (presumably the football team beginning to suck, and their "mishandling" of certain in school occurances) and one of the teacher sthat left with their appearance has come back and taken the job of principal (he was also one of the freshman FB coaches). We should get better over the next few years, but the whole Raymond Williams incident did damage as did the hiring/firing of staff
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TheJokersWILD said:
Welcome back Brett ATENEARS88fingerslewy said:
Glad you're back Stan."This is the best team I've ever played for"
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Somebody throw some boobies on here to get the weekend started.
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Yeah no kidding ... WTF, I haven't even heard their name mentioned in at least two years. What happened to the RB factory over there?
(BTW Bob, Go Braves!)
Well, in the 05/06 school year, Benedictine went through some.... changes... a new Principal and Vice Principal were brought in making a HARD push on academics, and being fairly strict with football players and grades fired a bunch of well known/liked and knowledgeable teachers.
Then, in the 2008-2009 year those 2 were fired due to some issues.. (presumably the football team beginning to suck, and their "mishandling" of certain in school occurances) and one of the teacher sthat left with their appearance has come back and taken the job of principal (he was also one of the freshman FB coaches). We should get better over the next few years, but the whole Raymond Williams incident did damage as did the hiring/firing of staff
Well, in the 05/06 school year, Benedictine went through some.... changes... a new Principal and Vice Principal were brought in making a HARD push on academics, and being fairly strict with football players and grades fired a bunch of well known/liked and knowledgeable teachers.
Then, in the 2008-2009 year those 2 were fired due to some issues.. (presumably the football team beginning to suck, and their "mishandling" of certain in school occurances) and one of the teacher sthat left with their appearance has come back and taken the job of principal (he was also one of the freshman FB coaches). We should get better over the next few years, but the whole Raymond Williams incident did damage as did the hiring/firing of staff
What are wrong with these schools??? Academics over football ... this is Northeast Ohio for crying out loud!!!
Didn't they build a new facility, or something controversy surrounding the building of a new sports facility (maybe a squashed levy)?
I see they still play a tough schedule (Lake Catholic, Chardon, Ed's, Mooney, Walsh Jesuit, St. Francis DeSales), so that's good.
WTF happened to Chardon this year? Don't mean to rain on Benedictines only win, but Chardon has fallen right off the top as well.
(Sorry people, maybe the Mods can move this High School chatter to the H.S. Forum ...)
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TheJokersWILD said:
Welcome back Brett ATENEARSInstant classic.
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88fingerslewy said:
Somebody throw some boobies on here to get the weekend started.
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