When the Browns trashed the Steelers 51-0
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Kosar on the 51-0 win
Bernie Kosar
09.25.2006
In a rivalry, you never know what is going to happen. It's cliché, but it's the truth. But rivalries are personal, and when it's a personal thing, the records don't matter. We knew every player on that Steelers roster. We saw them everywhere in the offseason, and we just didn't want to lose to them.
But one of the guys I knew best was Rod Woodson. As great as he was, he never picked off one of my passes. Because he was my friend, I never wanted him to get anything on me. I didn't want to have to listen to it in the offseason.
Woodson, like many of the Steelers, brought out the best in me. He was so good that I would lay in bed at night and develop passing routes that I thought could beat him. We would run something once, have a little success, and he'd never give it up again. I'd sit in the meeting room and have to convince guys that Rod would be sitting on a certain route, so we had to change it. That's a rivalry, and it brought out the best in all of us. We were consumed by it.
On Sept. 10, 1989, Woodson and the Pittsburgh Steelers ran into Murphy's Law. For them, everything that could have gone wrong, certainly did - and then some. I've always said that when you start pressing, you start compounding your problems. The Steelers has a lot of problems that day.
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...it's kind of sad this is the best thing we have to thump our chest over.
And honestly the spirit of that team? Totally not in these Browns. It sounds like some alternate timeline to current reality.
All ravens are crows but not all crows are ravens. -
Actually, I really like the spirit of the team now. We'll see Sunday.
But more than anything else, the Browns secondary and lb's have to play tight coverage, or
it will be more pitch and catch and lol for the squeelers offense.
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...it's kind of sad this is the best thing we have to thump our chest over.
And honestly the spirit of that team? Totally not in these Browns. It sounds like some alternate timeline to current reality.
...it's kind of sad this is the best thing we have to thump our chest over.
And honestly the spirit of that team? Totally not in these Browns. It sounds like some alternate timeline to current reality.
The only way you get the old blood boiling is to get motivated. Not stew on your negative thoughts. Got to get positive and believe we can win. Otherwise, why bother being a fan?
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...it's kind of sad this is the best thing we have to thump our chest over.
And honestly the spirit of that team? Totally not in these Browns. It sounds like some alternate timeline to current reality.
The only way you get the old blood boiling is to get motivated. Not stew on your negative thoughts. Got to get positive and believe we can win. Otherwise, why bother being a fan?
The only way you get the old blood boiling is to get motivated. Not stew on your negative thoughts. Got to get positive and believe we can win. Otherwise, why bother being a fan?
Seen it..was Horrific. Back when the Browns were still a Pain to play. The Game 51-0 featured 8 (yes EIGHT) Steeler Turnovers and 50 some Total yards of Offense and yes IN Three Rivers Stadium.Steelers of note , Bubby Brister , Louis Lipps , Worley and Merril Hodge , Lloyd and Woodson with Carnell Lake .The Browns went 9-6-1 to win the Division. Pittsburgh at 9-7 was a wildcard . Pittsburgh Beat the Browns a few weeks later 17-7 . The Steelers Beat the Oilers in the Wildcard round and Lost to Denver 24-23. The Broncos Beat the Browns in the AFC Title game 37-21.
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That was a hell of a thumping. I remember it well. I don't blame you for falling back to good memories like that. Keep it in mind. You will need that this weekend and I fear for the browns through the season with the management decisions being made there. It seems that even though you have a head coach with previous NFL experience (the first one the browns have had since 1971) he sucks almost worse than the previous coach. I thought when you guys picked up Mangini you might have a chance to return to the browns of od when we were a real rivalry. I no longer think Mangini knows what he is doing. Good luck this weekend.
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You think Tomlin is somehow a genius of a coach? More Steeler arrogance. He would tell you in an honest moment that he fell into a great situation and just let it ride. He is a tremendous LEADER, which is vital, but he would be wallowing in losses, the same way Mangini is, in Cleveland without the taklent and Lebeau as a DC.
The stability of the Steeler organiztion is the only thing that separates them, and other successful franchises, from poor ones.
Most of the so-called "busts" the browns drafted would have been successful in better organizations. Anyone the Browns draft generally under achieves due to the lack of stability, continuity and general incompetance of the organization.
The NFL is full of under and over achievers based on the teams they play for.
Wimbley would be a star on the Ravens or Steelers.
Woodley and Harrison would be average on the Browns
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You think Tomlin is somehow a genius of a coach? More Steeler arrogance. He would tell you in an honest moment that he fell into a great situation and just let it ride. He is a tremendous LEADER, which is vital, but he would be wallowing in losses, the same way Mangini is, in Cleveland without the taklent and Lebeau as a DC.
The stability of the Steeler organiztion is the only thing that separates them, and other successful franchises, from poor ones.
Most of the so-called "busts" the browns drafted would have been successful in better organizations. Anyone the Browns draft generally under achieves due to the lack of stability, continuity and general incompetance of the organization.
The NFL is full of under and over achievers based on the teams they play for.
Wimbley would be a star on the Ravens or Steelers.
Woodley and Harrison would be average on the Browns
You think Tomlin is somehow a genius of a coach? More Steeler arrogance. He would tell you in an honest moment that he fell into a great situation and just let it ride. He is a tremendous LEADER, which is vital, but he would be wallowing in losses, the same way Mangini is, in Cleveland without the taklent and Lebeau as a DC.
Exactly. I played basketball as a kid in the little leagues and i could coach the cavs to the playoffs. Its all about talent you have it or you dont. Sure we could be decent/good with a bunch of average players working together and executing but without those game changers were not going to the playoffs. i think Mangini will get us there eventually though.
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You think Tomlin is somehow a genius of a coach? More Steeler arrogance. He would tell you in an honest moment that he fell into a great situation and just let it ride. He is a tremendous LEADER, which is vital, but he would be wallowing in losses, the same way Mangini is, in Cleveland without the taklent and Lebeau as a DC.
The stability of the Steeler organiztion is the only thing that separates them, and other successful franchises, from poor ones.
Most of the so-called "busts" the browns drafted would have been successful in better organizations. Anyone the Browns draft generally under achieves due to the lack of stability, continuity and general incompetance of the organization.
The NFL is full of under and over achievers based on the teams they play for.
Wimbley would be a star on the Ravens or Steelers.
Woodley and Harrison would be average on the Browns
You think Tomlin is somehow a genius of a coach? More Steeler arrogance. He would tell you in an honest moment that he fell into a great situation and just let it ride. He is a tremendous LEADER, which is vital, but he would be wallowing in losses, the same way Mangini is, in Cleveland without the taklent and Lebeau as a DC.
The stability of the Steeler organiztion is the only thing that separates them, and other successful franchises, from poor ones.
Most of the so-called "busts" the browns drafted would have been successful in better organizations. Anyone the Browns draft generally under achieves due to the lack of stability, continuity and general incompetance of the organization.
The NFL is full of under and over achievers based on the teams they play for.
Wimbley would be a star on the Ravens or Steelers.
Woodley and Harrison would be average on the Browns
Sorry O ignorant one but Tomlin took a team that did not make the post season the year before and turned it into a Superbowl bound team. The team that Tomlin took to the Superbowl is totally different than the one Cowher took.
Not really sure what your point is though unless it is to convince yourself that Mangini is somehow a great coach but is failing because of other coaches decisions. The team you have there with that offensive line should have succeeded. Instead you have a coach that chose to fracture the team with a QB controversy that he created.
Woodley and Harrison by themselves could kill the browns offense. You have to be joking if you think they would be average if they were on your team. The only reason they would ever be average is if YOUR COACH did not know what to do with them. But you are right about one thing. The NFL is full of under and over achievers. This is directly related to the team chemistry and that is in the hands of the head coach.
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