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  • Formerly Stone said:

    The Browns are damned if they do, damned if they don't. They have two atrocious QB's and if you play one, the world sees how bad they are so their trade value plummets. At least if you sit them the rest of the NFL world can think......"well it's just Cleveland, maybe we can make something of the guy"

    Play Ratliff!

    I am sorry but we have absolutely no freeking clue how good or bad Quinn truly could be. He simply has played TOO little time to make a valid judgment on him. I can't anyway, and if any one of you say you can, you are deluding yourself. I have no prejudice pro or con on him, I just want to see him get a chance....because he hasn't gotten a valid one.

  • I don't trust anyone with a wig!

  • i hope they do trade quinn. we need all the help we can get, now and for the future. a true running back or more picks, either one. it's not that i don't like the kid, it's that he has no arm. dinking and dunking all game is bull. name the games that were most exciting yesterday and why. they all had qb's that could throw the ball downfield. quinn has proven he can't. anderson can.....but it's like he's just a dolt. if he had more smarts and some touch on his passes he could be good. unfortunately after bradford went down on saturday my hopes for a young TALENTED qb coming to cleveland next year took a shot in the gut. trade quinn, make da got to summer school and solidify the o line. we need a stud rb. first pick.

  • oh and if the season is gone already (which i think we all agree on) start harrison to see what he's truly made of.

  • If they were to start BQ for the rest of the year it needs to be when it would be too late for him to get his bonus. No reason to kill your salary cap for an experiment. Wait until after that clause is worthless then give him the rest of the season.

  • If Mangini put Quinn in and he played like he did the first 3 games, he would lose the team. The teams shown to much improvement the last couple weeks to chance losing the team. We just need to move forward with getting better every week and let Anderson manage the game instead of trying to score every play with a deep ball. DA has shown he's making better decisions with the ball the last couple games and with Anderson in, we atleast go into games with a chance to win, with Quinn I dont have that same feeling

  • @solon16 said:

    Read this from erie pa writer....lol

    I would imagine Quinn feels like the oil tanker captain who went on vacation the week before the Exxon Valdez accident and returned to find out the drunk guy who drove the ship into the reef was keeping his job.

    these kinds of comments come from the folks who didn't watch the Browns in weeks 1-3

    If there's an NFL General Manager who is as gullible as these types of people, then cross your fingers and hope Kokinis finds him.

    @lumbergh said:

    these kinds of comments come from the folks who didn't watch the Browns in weeks 1-3

    If there's an NFL General Manager who is as gullible as these types of people, then cross your fingers and hope Kokinis finds him.

    I think this comment is based on someone who WATCHED weeks 4-6 rather than missing weeks 1-3.

  • If Mangini put Quinn in and he played like he did the first 3 games, he would lose the team. The teams shown to much improvement the last couple weeks to chance losing the team. We just need to move forward with getting better every week and let Anderson manage the game instead of trying to score every play with a deep ball. DA has shown he's making better decisions with the ball the last couple games and with Anderson in, we atleast go into games with a chance to win, with Quinn I dont have that same feeling

    nmills said:

    If Mangini put Quinn in and he played like he did the first 3 games, he would lose the team. The teams shown to much improvement the last couple weeks to chance losing the team. We just need to move forward with getting better every week and let Anderson manage the game instead of trying to score every play with a deep ball. DA has shown he's making better decisions with the ball the last couple games and with Anderson in, we atleast go into games with a chance to win, with Quinn I dont have that same feeling

    You're 😵 :wacko: 😵 :wacko: 😵 :wacko: 😵 :wacko:

  • nmills said:

    If Mangini put Quinn in and he played like he did the first 3 games, he would lose the team. The teams shown to much improvement the last couple weeks to chance losing the team. We just need to move forward with getting better every week and let Anderson manage the game instead of trying to score every play with a deep ball. DA has shown he's making better decisions with the ball the last couple games and with Anderson in, we atleast go into games with a chance to win, with Quinn I dont have that same feeling

    You're 😵 :wacko: 😵 :wacko: 😵 :wacko: 😵 :wacko:

    @brownsfan4evr said:

    You're 😵 :wacko: 😵 :wacko: 😵 :wacko: 😵 :wacko:

    Naw man, you obviously didn't watch the first three games. the team does not play for Quinn the same way they play for Anderson. Anderson may or may not be here next year. Quinn most likely will not be. maybe in an organization with the core built Quinn could be a good QB, here in Cleveland he won't be.

  • DA has shown he's making better decisions with the ball the last couple games

    You really believe that?

  • DA has shown he's making better decisions with the ball the last couple games

    You really believe that?

    @brownsfan4evr said:

    You really believe that?

    absolutely 100%, he doesnt throw 50 yard jump balls 10 times a game anymore, no more throwing into triple coverage. He actually try's to hit his check downs, still needs some work on the touch though. There was probably 3 third down passes that were dropped yesterday that would've sustained drives. If you haven't seen improvement in DA's decision making your not watching the same game I am

  • @brownsfan4evr said:

    You really believe that?

    absolutely 100%, he doesnt throw 50 yard jump balls 10 times a game anymore, no more throwing into triple coverage. He actually try's to hit his check downs, still needs some work on the touch though. There was probably 3 third down passes that were dropped yesterday that would've sustained drives. If you haven't seen improvement in DA's decision making your not watching the same game I am

    nmills said:

    absolutely 100%, he doesnt throw 50 yard jump balls 10 times a game anymore, no more throwing into triple coverage. He actually try's to hit his check downs, still needs some work on the touch though. There was probably 3 third down passes that were dropped yesterday that would've sustained drives. If you haven't seen improvement in DA's decision making your not watching the same game I am

    I guess not.

  • @brownsfan4evr said:

    You're 😵 :wacko: 😵 :wacko: 😵 :wacko: 😵 :wacko:

    Naw man, you obviously didn't watch the first three games. the team does not play for Quinn the same way they play for Anderson. Anderson may or may not be here next year. Quinn most likely will not be. maybe in an organization with the core built Quinn could be a good QB, here in Cleveland he won't be.

    Dawgfanforever88 said:

    Naw man, you obviously didn't watch the first three games. the team does not play for Quinn the same way they play for Anderson.

    i havn't noticed any improvement in our offense when DA took over. not sure how you came to this conclusion. in fact we have been doing worse, possibly the same, but its been masked by bad teams. you saw what da did when he came in vs balt. that was no improvement, as bad as BQ was, we have taken some large steps backwards since DA because qb.

  • Dawgfanforever88 said:

    Naw man, you obviously didn't watch the first three games. the team does not play for Quinn the same way they play for Anderson.

    i havn't noticed any improvement in our offense when DA took over. not sure how you came to this conclusion. in fact we have been doing worse, possibly the same, but its been masked by bad teams. you saw what da did when he came in vs balt. that was no improvement, as bad as BQ was, we have taken some large steps backwards since DA because qb.

    @alendor said:

    i havn't noticed any improvement in our offense when DA took over. not sure how you came to this conclusion. in fact we have been doing worse, possibly the same, but its been masked by bad teams. you saw what da did when he came in vs balt. that was no improvement, as bad as BQ was, we have taken some large steps backwards since DA because qb.

    I dunno maybe it was something called touchdowns that clouded my judgement. silly me

  • It all comes down to respect. Maybe the team respects DA more then BQ. Maybe they know something we dont? We all know BQ has a great work ethic but is he doing it to be a better player for the team or is he doing it for himself? The team has a better idea then any of us ever will and its starting to show.

  • @alendor said:

    i havn't noticed any improvement in our offense when DA took over. not sure how you came to this conclusion. in fact we have been doing worse, possibly the same, but its been masked by bad teams. you saw what da did when he came in vs balt. that was no improvement, as bad as BQ was, we have taken some large steps backwards since DA because qb.

    I dunno maybe it was something called touchdowns that clouded my judgement. silly me

    Dawgfanforever88 said:

    I dunno maybe it was something called touchdowns that clouded my judgement. silly me

    he couldn't get a td against buffalo. who arn't what i call winners. same with cinci and pitt. neither are great teams this year by a long shot.

    bq put a TD in against minni, which everyone discounts. looks like pretty similar results, but against worse teams. of which da has a far worse passer rating and accuracy against than bq did against balt, mini, and denver. all of which are far better than cincy, buffalo and pitt. don't forget da came in and threw 3 picks in a half, against a team that quinn was currently 6-8 against, and only 1 pick.

    no where in our last 3 games do i see an improvement. and there certainly isn't any proof that the team is playing harder for DA.

    2-17 and 10-24 arn't what i would call an improvement.

  • I think we should trade DA..his stock should be skyrocketing with his epic performances.... AHHH hahhahaha

  • Dawgfanforever88 said:

    I dunno maybe it was something called touchdowns that clouded my judgement. silly me

    he couldn't get a td against buffalo. who arn't what i call winners. same with cinci and pitt. neither are great teams this year by a long shot.

    bq put a TD in against minni, which everyone discounts. looks like pretty similar results, but against worse teams. of which da has a far worse passer rating and accuracy against than bq did against balt, mini, and denver. all of which are far better than cincy, buffalo and pitt. don't forget da came in and threw 3 picks in a half, against a team that quinn was currently 6-8 against, and only 1 pick.

    no where in our last 3 games do i see an improvement. and there certainly isn't any proof that the team is playing harder for DA.

    2-17 and 10-24 arn't what i would call an improvement.

    @alendor said:

    bq put a TD in against minni, which everyone discounts.

    do you know why everybody discounts a TD pass in the final 30 seconds of a 3 TD blowout?

  • @brownsfan4evr said:

    You really believe that?

    absolutely 100%, he doesnt throw 50 yard jump balls 10 times a game anymore, no more throwing into triple coverage. He actually try's to hit his check downs, still needs some work on the touch though. There was probably 3 third down passes that were dropped yesterday that would've sustained drives. If you haven't seen improvement in DA's decision making your not watching the same game I am

    nmills said:

    absolutely 100%, he doesnt throw 50 yard jump balls 10 times a game anymore, no more throwing into triple coverage. He actually try's to hit his check downs, still needs some work on the touch though. There was probably 3 third down passes that were dropped yesterday that would've sustained drives. If you haven't seen improvement in DA's decision making your not watching the same game I am

    no throws into triple coverage?? What games have you been watching.. double coverage, triple coverage. or just throwing it to a guy who is completely covered..nothing has changed. DA is a bum.

  • @alendor said:

    bq put a TD in against minni, which everyone discounts.

    do you know why everybody discounts a TD pass in the final 30 seconds of a 3 TD blowout?

    @lumbergh said:

    do you know why everybody discounts a TD pass in the final 30 seconds of a 3 TD blowout?

    You know that if your "boy" had done that you would be all over it.

    DA was done two years ago. I'm still surprised that Mangini split this team up with a QB controversy. If he did not like either QB he could have picked up alot of other QBs out there. The fact that they spent so much to get Quinn and the way DA played in the past (way overrated for 1/2 a good season) they should have stuck with Quinn and let him get the experience. It would have paid off for the future and DA should have been traded for anything they could get.