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  • Anderson is far from good. I think he is awful. But did you ever think that Quinn could be worse...........WAY WORSE?

  • Anderson is far from good. I think he is awful. But did you ever think that Quinn could be worse...........WAY WORSE?

    @medicineman said:

    Anderson is far from good. I think he is awful. But did you ever think that Quinn could be worse...........WAY WORSE?

    Agreed... and consider this:

    27/41

    what's that?

    It's Anderson's comp/att the last two games without the dropped balls.

  • @solon16 said:

    Who is this QB?

    When I got him after two years there, he was pretty beat up mentally. He played 'concerned.' Not scared, but he played like he was afraid to make a mistake, so he didn't play well. We had to get him to take a 'let-it-rip' mentality. If he made a mistake, I took the blame. Bad play call. Once he realized we believed in him, he played to his capability. He did whatever we told him to. We told him not to do certain things, he didn't do them.

    "Ninety percent of teaching is believing in the pupil and him knowing you believe in him. He believed that we believed in him."

    I would say that clearly this is not the philosophy that governed the coaching of BQ. It's what Mangini SAID he was going to do (choose a QB and stick with him) but it's not what he did and I wonder how much the individuals involved sensed that.

    @kshutchins said:

    I would say that clearly this is not the philosophy that governed the coaching of BQ. It's what Mangini SAID he was going to do (choose a QB and stick with him) but it's not what he did and I wonder how much the individuals involved sensed that.

    along with a lot of other(not treating men like men) things....this is at the core of gaining respect of your players and having them buy into your way of doing things....I agree others do sense that what this coach says may not be what he means which is not a good way of leading err managing err treating a TEAM~! not by any means do i mean bq is anygood....just that mangy may not be a man of his word...which is a death nell to me as far as coaching and trust go...JMO!

  • @medicineman said:

    Anderson is far from good. I think he is awful. But did you ever think that Quinn could be worse...........WAY WORSE?

    Agreed... and consider this:

    27/41

    what's that?

    It's Anderson's comp/att the last two games without the dropped balls.

    @bandwagon said:

    Agreed... and consider this:

    27/41

    what's that?

    It's Anderson's comp/att the last two games without the dropped balls.

    AGAIN we are fking arguing over which sucky Qb sucks worse.....It is fking ridiculous!

  • @kshutchins said:

    I would say that clearly this is not the philosophy that governed the coaching of BQ. It's what Mangini SAID he was going to do (choose a QB and stick with him) but it's not what he did and I wonder how much the individuals involved sensed that.

    along with a lot of other(not treating men like men) things....this is at the core of gaining respect of your players and having them buy into your way of doing things....I agree others do sense that what this coach says may not be what he means which is not a good way of leading err managing err treating a TEAM~! not by any means do i mean bq is anygood....just that mangy may not be a man of his word...which is a death nell to me as far as coaching and trust go...JMO!

    @solon16 said:

    along with a lot of other(not treating men like men) things....this is at the core of gaining respect of your players and having them buy into your way of doing things.

    Just out of curiosity, please give some examples of not treating men like men.

  • telling them who to sit by and where there lockers should be, making them take tests two times a week, extremely excessive fines for trivial shit, (he should just ground them)...lol, the secretive qb(i know im right) Bullsheet, the handling of Da Bq situation....etc etc etc....he'll have a very hard time having players buy into his system if he tells them one thing and does another....like "I'm picking the Qb and I'm sticking with him then after 2.5 games renigging on his "word". again JMO

  • You know, the guy's trying to build a team, not several groups of clicquish guys who don't bother to learn the playbook and act irresponsibly giving the team a bad name. The secretive QB bs was rather weird, but hardly and example of not treating men like men. I can see the locker location easily being justified, in fact players have said they appreciated it. Testing? If he had them draw flowers or answer questions irrelevant to the game of football you've got a point. The fines were not excessive at all when you look at their salaries. If I sent my employees somewhere and they skipped out on the honor bar bill, forcing me to cover it, I'd probably suspend them for a bit. You've got guys making 150K every Sunday whining about a trivial fine. I say suspend them for a game without pay.

    I really wonder if the 2.5 games was a surprise to Quinn. Wasn't he quoted the week prior to the first game, saying something to the effect that he was cool with the competition even if it went well into the season. At the time I read that I thought it a bit unusual, somehow I think the team knew things weren't set in stone, who cares what's told to the media.

    For the most part it seems Mangini is being pretty consistent about not putting up with individual players BS. Now that's treating men like men.

  • telling them who to sit by and where there lockers should be, making them take tests two times a week, extremely excessive fines for trivial shit, (he should just ground them)...lol, the secretive qb(i know im right) Bullsheet, the handling of Da Bq situation....etc etc etc....he'll have a very hard time having players buy into his system if he tells them one thing and does another....like "I'm picking the Qb and I'm sticking with him then after 2.5 games renigging on his "word". again JMO

    @solon16 said:

    telling them who to sit by and where there lockers should be, making them take tests two times a week, extremely excessive fines for trivial shit, (he should just ground them)...lol, the secretive qb(i know im right) Bullsheet, the handling of Da Bq situation....etc etc etc....he'll have a very hard time having players buy into his system if he tells them one thing and does another....like "I'm picking the Qb and I'm sticking with him then after 2.5 games renigging on his "word". again JMO

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  • Who is this QB?

    When I got him after two years there, he was pretty beat up mentally. He played 'concerned.' Not scared, but he played like he was afraid to make a mistake, so he didn't play well. We had to get him to take a 'let-it-rip' mentality. If he made a mistake, I took the blame. Bad play call. Once he realized we believed in him, he played to his capability. He did whatever we told him to. We told him not to do certain things, he didn't do them.

    "Ninety percent of teaching is believing in the pupil and him knowing you believe in him. He believed that we believed in him."

    @solon16 said:

    Who is this QB?

    When I got him after two years there, he was pretty beat up mentally. He played 'concerned.' Not scared, but he played like he was afraid to make a mistake, so he didn't play well. We had to get him to take a 'let-it-rip' mentality. If he made a mistake, I took the blame. Bad play call. Once he realized we believed in him, he played to his capability. He did whatever we told him to. We told him not to do certain things, he didn't do them.

    "Ninety percent of teaching is believing in the pupil and him knowing you believe in him. He believed that we believed in him."

    I'm gonna say Steve Young because Tampa wasn't an ego boost for any young QB gettign that culture shock.

    - Tom F.

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