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  • @destinfunk said:

    Fans completely and utterly forget claims that the team is in "cap hell". The Browns now have the second-most available cap space in the league, behind only Tampa Bay.

    2010 free agents and 11 draft picks ..bring it!

    Wouldn't having the 2nd most available cap room during the season indicate the FO isn't really into spending money?

    @silverback said:

    Wouldn't having the 2nd most available cap room during the season indicate the FO isn't really into spending money?

    But it looks like we're saving for the draft??? The whole financial aspect of the game really isn't my forte. Is this not the case?

  • @silverback said:

    Wouldn't having the 2nd most available cap room during the season indicate the FO isn't really into spending money?

    But it looks like we're saving for the draft??? The whole financial aspect of the game really isn't my forte. Is this not the case?

    @vaportrail said:

    The whole financial aspect of the game really isn't my forte. Is this not the case?

    it's not the brown's either.

  • @destinfunk said:

    Fans completely and utterly forget claims that the team is in "cap hell". The Browns now have the second-most available cap space in the league, behind only Tampa Bay.

    2010 free agents and 11 draft picks ..bring it!

    Groundhog Day.

    @chicopee-john said:

    Groundhog Day.

    Even driving over a cliff could not end it.

    groundhog-day.jpg

  • @destinfunk said:

    Fans completely and utterly forget claims that the team is in "cap hell". The Browns now have the second-most available cap space in the league, behind only Tampa Bay.

    2010 free agents and 11 draft picks ..bring it!

    Wouldn't having the 2nd most available cap room during the season indicate the FO isn't really into spending money?

    @silverback said:

    Wouldn't having the 2nd most available cap room during the season indicate the FO isn't really into spending money?

    No, it shows that we've cut a lot of dead weight this past season.....before the start of last off season I believe we had the second least cap space in the league

  • Umm has anybody been following whats gonna happen this offseason? The head of the NFLPA who took over after Upshaw is already a ball buster threatening strike if the salary cap is not REMOVED. Goodell has already concedeed it is likely that the salary cap will be demolished after this season. We will see what happens once Labor Agreement talks starts but everything is pointed in the direction for NO SALARY CAP.

    This means we can have 4x amount of cap room it doesn't matter. There wont be a cap

  • @destinfunk said:

    Fans completely and utterly forget claims that the team is in "cap hell". The Browns now have the second-most available cap space in the league, behind only Tampa Bay.

    2010 free agents and 11 draft picks ..bring it!

    Wouldn't having the 2nd most available cap room during the season indicate the FO isn't really into spending money?

    @silverback said:

    Wouldn't having the 2nd most available cap room during the season indicate the FO isn't really into spending money?

    It could, though I don't think that is the case.

    We cleared a good amount, and I don't think it was simply to save money.....now next year, if we have a boatload, then we might need to revisit the topic.

  • Umm has anybody been following whats gonna happen this offseason? The head of the NFLPA who took over after Upshaw is already a ball buster threatening strike if the salary cap is not REMOVED. Goodell has already concedeed it is likely that the salary cap will be demolished after this season. We will see what happens once Labor Agreement talks starts but everything is pointed in the direction for NO SALARY CAP.

    This means we can have 4x amount of cap room it doesn't matter. There wont be a cap

    @mitch said:

    Umm has anybody been following whats gonna happen this offseason? The head of the NFLPA who took over after Upshaw is already a ball buster threatening strike if the salary cap is not REMOVED. Goodell has already concedeed it is likely that the salary cap will be demolished after this season. We will see what happens once Labor Agreement talks starts but everything is pointed in the direction for NO SALARY CAP.

    This means we can have 4x amount of cap room it doesn't matter. There wont be a cap

    All THAT means is football will become like baseball, and the teams with the most money will just buy players and over time, in theory, just dominate. Have a salary cap works in our favor honestly, as a team from Cleveland.

    I am pro salary cap, im sorry the NFLPA minimum is only that of 90% of America's working population and that backups only make $750,000 or so to do nothing but play a game that people love. So so so sorry, NFLPA, your right, we should pay your over-priced "ochocinco" pre-madona players more money so they can go hit more strippers (Pacman) and then maybe they can buy better lawyers so they dont see any jail time considerable to the offense commited (Ray Lewis & Jamal Lewis) or they can just pay off people to avoid serving the sentence that all real Americans have to serve for their actions (Donte Stallworth).

    Sorry..... I hate players complaining they only drive 3 tricked out cars.

  • Agreed i see this as damn good thing...they may use it on crap..but manginis last year he signed up some good ones faneca..

    Guaranteed money in excess of $20 million was given to Kris Jenkins, Alan Faneca, and Calvin Pace, while Damien Woody had to settle for only $10 million in guarantees.

    Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writ...l#ixzz0VA8nEFK5

  • I never offered an opinion concerning whether it would benefit or hurt us i'm just saying discussing salary cap is most likely irrelevant.

    Fact of the matter is they are going to get the removal of the salary cap and yes it will be like baseball. You can't complain about them wanting more money really. If they don't get it who gets it? The owner. Its not like they are taking money out of your pocket. Granted it could potentially raise ticket prices but they wont sky rocket just like baseball hasn't.

  • I never offered an opinion concerning whether it would benefit or hurt us i'm just saying discussing salary cap is most likely irrelevant.

    Fact of the matter is they are going to get the removal of the salary cap and yes it will be like baseball. You can't complain about them wanting more money really. If they don't get it who gets it? The owner. Its not like they are taking money out of your pocket. Granted it could potentially raise ticket prices but they wont sky rocket just like baseball hasn't.

    @mitch said:

    I never offered an opinion concerning whether it would benefit or hurt us i'm just saying discussing salary cap is most likely irrelevant.

    Fact of the matter is they are going to get the removal of the salary cap and yes it will be like baseball. You can't complain about them wanting more money really. If they don't get it who gets it? The owner. Its not like they are taking money out of your pocket. Granted it could potentially raise ticket prices but they wont sky rocket just like baseball hasn't.

    My only complaint $ wise is it will ruin the competition of, for example, the Raiders beating the Eagles last week. Those kinds of upsets wont happen anymore, just like the Royals dont beat the Yankees, or the Nationals dont beat the Philies

  • @mitch said:

    Umm has anybody been following whats gonna happen this offseason? The head of the NFLPA who took over after Upshaw is already a ball buster threatening strike if the salary cap is not REMOVED. Goodell has already concedeed it is likely that the salary cap will be demolished after this season. We will see what happens once Labor Agreement talks starts but everything is pointed in the direction for NO SALARY CAP.

    This means we can have 4x amount of cap room it doesn't matter. There wont be a cap

    All THAT means is football will become like baseball, and the teams with the most money will just buy players and over time, in theory, just dominate. Have a salary cap works in our favor honestly, as a team from Cleveland.

    I am pro salary cap, im sorry the NFLPA minimum is only that of 90% of America's working population and that backups only make $750,000 or so to do nothing but play a game that people love. So so so sorry, NFLPA, your right, we should pay your over-priced "ochocinco" pre-madona players more money so they can go hit more strippers (Pacman) and then maybe they can buy better lawyers so they dont see any jail time considerable to the offense commited (Ray Lewis & Jamal Lewis) or they can just pay off people to avoid serving the sentence that all real Americans have to serve for their actions (Donte Stallworth).

    Sorry..... I hate players complaining they only drive 3 tricked out cars.

    @tn-browns-backer said:

    All THAT means is football will become like baseball, and the teams with the most money will just buy players and over time, in theory, just dominate. Have a salary cap works in our favor honestly, as a team from Cleveland.

    I am pro salary cap, im sorry the NFLPA minimum is only that of 90% of America's working population and that backups only make $750,000 or so to do nothing but play a game that people love. So so so sorry, NFLPA, your right, we should pay your over-priced "ochocinco" pre-madona players more money so they can go hit more strippers (Pacman) and then maybe they can buy better lawyers so they dont see any jail time considerable to the offense commited (Ray Lewis & Jamal Lewis) or they can just pay off people to avoid serving the sentence that all real Americans have to serve for their actions (Donte Stallworth).

    Sorry..... I hate players complaining they only drive 3 tricked out cars.

    It will be a sad day if the cap gets removed. Perhaps the best thing about the NFL is the parity it achieves through the salary cap structure. ANY team can go to the promised land any year no matter how small the market the team comes from. If this happens permanently get ready for the Giants to win 3 Superbowls every decade and teams like green bay to become farms for players they won't be able afford if they get good.

  • @tn-browns-backer said:

    All THAT means is football will become like baseball, and the teams with the most money will just buy players and over time, in theory, just dominate. Have a salary cap works in our favor honestly, as a team from Cleveland.

    I am pro salary cap, im sorry the NFLPA minimum is only that of 90% of America's working population and that backups only make $750,000 or so to do nothing but play a game that people love. So so so sorry, NFLPA, your right, we should pay your over-priced "ochocinco" pre-madona players more money so they can go hit more strippers (Pacman) and then maybe they can buy better lawyers so they dont see any jail time considerable to the offense commited (Ray Lewis & Jamal Lewis) or they can just pay off people to avoid serving the sentence that all real Americans have to serve for their actions (Donte Stallworth).

    Sorry..... I hate players complaining they only drive 3 tricked out cars.

    It will be a sad day if the cap gets removed. Perhaps the best thing about the NFL is the parity it achieves through the salary cap structure. ANY team can go to the promised land any year no matter how small the market the team comes from. If this happens permanently get ready for the Giants to win 3 Superbowls every decade and teams like green bay to become farms for players they won't be able afford if they get good.

    @bonedawg said:

    It will be a sad day if the cap gets removed. Perhaps the best thing about the NFL is the parity it achieves through the salary cap structure. ANY team can go to the promised land any year no matter how small the market the team comes from. If this happens permanently get ready for the Giants to win 3 Superbowls every decade and teams like green bay to become farms for players they won't be able afford if they get good.

    Just like baseball.

  • @bonedawg said:

    It will be a sad day if the cap gets removed. Perhaps the best thing about the NFL is the parity it achieves through the salary cap structure. ANY team can go to the promised land any year no matter how small the market the team comes from. If this happens permanently get ready for the Giants to win 3 Superbowls every decade and teams like green bay to become farms for players they won't be able afford if they get good.

    Just like baseball.

    @kosar_for_president said:

    Just like baseball.

    Exactly, now imagine Jerry Jones with that shit eating grin after he buys another superbowl ring. I think I just vomited in my mouth a little thinking about that one.

  • Umm has anybody been following whats gonna happen this offseason? The head of the NFLPA who took over after Upshaw is already a ball buster threatening strike if the salary cap is not REMOVED. Goodell has already concedeed it is likely that the salary cap will be demolished after this season. We will see what happens once Labor Agreement talks starts but everything is pointed in the direction for NO SALARY CAP.

    This means we can have 4x amount of cap room it doesn't matter. There wont be a cap

    @mitch said:

    Umm has anybody been following whats gonna happen this offseason? The head of the NFLPA who took over after Upshaw is already a ball buster threatening strike if the salary cap is not REMOVED. Goodell has already concedeed it is likely that the salary cap will be demolished after this season. We will see what happens once Labor Agreement talks starts but everything is pointed in the direction for NO SALARY CAP.

    This means we can have 4x amount of cap room it doesn't matter. There wont be a cap

    Dude, Upshaw's been dead for a year.

    One interesting part of the 2010 uncapped year is that while it will mean there are fewer free agents (because of the 6 rather than 4 year UFA path), the top teams will be limited in the number of free agents that they can sign. So a bottom-feeder with money to spend might be in a pretty good spot.

    Ultimately the salary cap will not get removed. Players don't have that much mojo. Games are getting blacked out in the NFL this season for god's sake. Players strike and they lose millions of dollars they never have a chance to earn back.

    Ultimately, this gets resolved with a more reasonable rookie salary cap structure for 2011. Belichick trading Seymour to Oakland for their #1 pick was pure genius. He'll get a top 5 pick with the newly-slotted rookie salary structure (like the NBA). Voting members of the players association will gladly stick it to the rooks.

  • We actually brought in more revenue in 2008 then the Jets Giants and Cowboys http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/f...franchises.aspx imagine if we actually won games

  • We actually brought in more revenue in 2008 then the Jets Giants and Cowboys http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/f...franchises.aspx imagine if we actually won games

    nmills said:

    We actually brought in more revenue in 2008 then the Jets Giants and Cowboys http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/f...franchises.aspx imagine if we actually won games

    Check those glasses wild thing. Cowboys - $280 mil, Browns $235 mil. Point taken though.

  • nmills said:

    We actually brought in more revenue in 2008 then the Jets Giants and Cowboys http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/f...franchises.aspx imagine if we actually won games

    Check those glasses wild thing. Cowboys - $280 mil, Browns $235 mil. Point taken though.

    @bonedawg said:

    Check those glasses wild thing. Cowboys - $280 mil, Browns $235 mil. Point taken though.

    sorry missed that, point is were competing or beating the so called big market teams and we are terrible. So if it was an uncapped year we would still be competitive in free agency. The Steelers won the superbowl last year and had the same revenue as us. Imagine if we were a playoff team every year, we might be up there with Washington.

  • I never offered an opinion concerning whether it would benefit or hurt us i'm just saying discussing salary cap is most likely irrelevant.

    Fact of the matter is they are going to get the removal of the salary cap and yes it will be like baseball. You can't complain about them wanting more money really. If they don't get it who gets it? The owner. Its not like they are taking money out of your pocket. Granted it could potentially raise ticket prices but they wont sky rocket just like baseball hasn't.

    @mitch said:

    I never offered an opinion concerning whether it would benefit or hurt us i'm just saying discussing salary cap is most likely irrelevant.

    and i heard this same speal before the last labor agreement, which if you remember, was agreed upon at the 11th hour.

    yup...groundhog day.

  • I don't really care, we have a billionare....

    We would be one of the "yankees"...especially since your going to make boatloads of cash here.

  • I don't really care, we have a billionare....

    We would be one of the "yankees"...especially since your going to make boatloads of cash here.

    @irisheyez said:

    I don't really care, we have a billionare....

    We would be one of the "yankees"...especially since your going to make boatloads of cash here.

    A billionaire who cares about soccer.....