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  • CIMO. C
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    Fanhouse says Jamario Moon is the player to watch

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    The market on Jamario Moon has been all over the place since he arrived in the NBA from various minor leagues and the D-League. At the tender age of 27, he was a Rookie of the Year candidate in 2007. Then he was a struggling sophomore at 28. He was traded to Miami and seemed to be a favorite target for Dwyane Wade for halfcourt alley-oops. But injury and a lack of cohesiveness with the Miami offense led to frustrations along with the Heat's first-round exit at the hands of the Hawks.

    And now, four years after playing for the Arkansas RimRockers, a D-League team no longer in existence, Jamario Moon finds himself the reserve for a King.

    The Cavs signed Moon to an offer sheet this summer, and his arrival on the team marks a striking departure for Cavalier forwards. Because he's actually a real small forward. The Cavs frontcourt above Center-level has consisted over the last few years of oversized shooting guard Wally Szczerbiak, center-convert Ben Wallace, and... whatever Anderson Varejao is, to go along with LeBron James, who is simultaneously very much a power forward, very much a point-forward, and very much just the best basketball player on the planet.

    But Moon brings something the Cavs can use in several rotations. When LeBron shifts to the power forward position, Moon can play a traditional wing position. His 36% 3-point shooting puts another perimeter scorer on the floor, and his ability to play above the rim means LeBron has someone else to work with in the fast break.

    Moon's not going to light the world on fire, but while all of the offseason attention has been paid to The Big Ridicuous Nickname For Only An Above Average Player At This Point, the acquisition of Moon is the kind of move LeBron would have salivated over just a few years ago. It represents a further deepening of their roster, and a move towards more lineup flexibility, a popular trend in the NBA and something that burned them against the Magic. While Shaquille O'Neal can help with defending Dwight Howard, Moon allows LeBron to defend Rashard Lewis or Ryan Anderson, while Moon takes the other. And it's the addition of Moon and Anthony Parker as much as Shaq that may help the Cavs finally, finally, reach the promised land.

    The question is if Moon's athleticism and abilities will be able to mesh with the rest of the Cavs. He'll need to develop chemistry with Mo Williams, Delonte West, and Anthony Parker as well as LeBron, and be able to demonstrate the defensive acumen necessary to warrant Mike Brown's trust in getting him on the floor. And since rebounding and fundamentals are so central to the Cavs' approach, and they have a fair amount of perimeter shooters, Moon also needs to attack the boards. It's a high standard Moon's being asked to rise to, but if he's able to, he'll find himself in a position to contribute to a championship team. And that would certainly make for a nice high point on the rollercoaster of Moon's career.

    http://nba.fanhouse.com/2009/10/22/fanhous...view-cavaliers/
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      And how about the commissioner's take on the King....

      LeBron James may be the "best player ever" says David Stern, who hopes James stays in Cleveland

      By Starting Blocks

      October 22, 2009, 5:28PM

      Tracy Boulian, The Plain Dealer

      Cavaliers forward LeBron James gets quite a compliment from NBA commissioner David Stern.NBA commissioner David Stern says Cleveland Cavaliers forward and league MVP LeBron James "may be the best player ever to descend to this planet," and hopes that James will play out his NBA career in Cleveland.

      Stern made the comments in an interview for "The $ports Take" with Rick Horrow, known as "The Sports Professor." The complete interview with Stern will be shown next Tuesday, Oct. 27 at 6:30 p.m. Eastern Time on the Versus television network.

      Says Stern about James:

      "You know, he hasn't won anything yet but he may be the best player ever to descend to this planet. It's a delight to watch him; it's a delightto watch him grow, to see his width and breadth, in terms of his interest and capacities. He's a great kid and a great player."

      Referring to observers who claim James is over-rated, Stern says, with a reference to Michael Jordan:

      "He may be the best player ever to have played. Michael might dispute that, but he has a lot of canvas yet on which to paint. I have no doubt the picture is going to be beautiful."

      James can become an unrestricted free agent after this season. Asked if he has any guess where James will play next season and beyond, Stern replies:

      "None whatsoever, although I hope it's in Cleveland."

      http://www.cleveland.com/ohio-sports-blog/...best_playe.html
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        Here's the 15 man roster

        1 - Daniel Gibson

        14 - Danny Green

        21 - J.J. Hickson

        11 - Zydrunas Ilgauskas

        00 - Darnell Jackson

        23 - LeBron James

        5 - Coby Karl

        15 - Jamario Moon

        33 - Shaquille O’Neal

        18 - Anthony Parker

        44 - Leon Powe

        17 - Anderson Varejao

        13 - Delonte West

        31 - Jawad Williams

        2 - Mo Williams

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          And apparently Coby Karl isn't a white guy.

          From the Akron Beacon Journal:

          Coby Karl said he knows that he has to be something other than the stereotype of white guys in the NBA.

          'I just consider myself a basketball player. Being a white basketball player gives the perception that you shoot the ball very well. I don't think I shoot exceptionally well,'' he said. ''I can shoot, but I can do other things. I can handle the ball, pass the ball, run the pick and roll. I can even run the point.''

          Karl's not claiming to be a victim here. This isn't like when Jason Kapono told reporters at a pre-draft camp that "I should have left UCLA after my freshman year, played in Croatia, grown a beard and changed my name to Vladimir Kaponovich. That would have been perfect." But, regardless of what you think of Karl as a prospect, it's clear that he doesn't want to end up on a team as a long-range threat at the end of the bench. He's worked too hard to become more than that and would prefer his all-around game not be ignored on account of stereotypes. If it's not to snuff, fine, but Karl just wants that chance to, well, be himself.

          http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/The_Basel...taken_seriously

          http://www.ohio.com/sports/thomas/64706267.html

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            First game of the season tonight at 7:30 eastern on TNT.

            Here's Windhorst's preview

            Windhorst Beat Blog: Delonte West "doubtful" vs. Celtics

            By Brian Windhorst

            October 27, 2009, 12:20PM

            Cavaliers guard Delonte West is now doubtful to play in tonight's season opener against the Boston Celtics. Cavaliers vs. Boston Celtics -- Pregame

            Starting lineups

            Celtics: Rajon Rondo, Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Kendrick Perkins.

            Cavs: Mo Williams, Anthony Parker, LeBron James, Anderson Varejao, Shaquille O'Neal

            Officials: Steve Javie, Tony Brothers, Derek Richardson

            • Delonte West was listed as doubtful by the Cavs following shootaround this morning at The Q. This is not surprising but it is a disappointment, not just for the fans but also the players. Yesterday LeBron James said he was hoping West would be able to join the team for the first big game. This continued yo-yoing, even within the team, must cause distraction, no matter what anyone says.

            • Glen Davis is out of tonight's game with a broken right thumb, which he suffered in a fight with a college teammate Saturday. Reports out of Boston suggest he could miss the next 4-6 weeks and that the Celtics owner, who is not pleased, may suspend him for his actions. The short term impact on the Cavs is this: the Celtics are a little thin up front because Brian Scalabrine is also out. So expect big doses of Rasheed Wallace and Shelden Williams tonight off the bench. This is the depth the Celtics didn't have last season, especially after current Cav Leon Powe got hurt.

            • Strategically, tonight keep an eye on how the Celtics decide to defend Shaquille O'Neal early. Last week in Columbus in a preseason game Boston played Shaq 1-on-1 and he had success against both Perkins and Wallace. It is the Celtics nature to play this way as much as possible, last year in the playoffs Perkins did an excellent job holding Dwight Howard in check by himself. The Cavs might look to test that early.

            • As for an adjustment the Cavs will make, look for them to pay more attention to Marquis Daniels, who scored 19 points on them last week working mostly off the weakside. The Cavs will be keeping a closer eye on him off the bench.

            http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/20...delonte_we.html
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              First game of the season tonight at 7:30 eastern on TNT.

              Here's Windhorst's preview

              Windhorst Beat Blog: Delonte West "doubtful" vs. Celtics

              By Brian Windhorst

              October 27, 2009, 12:20PM

              Cavaliers guard Delonte West is now doubtful to play in tonight's season opener against the Boston Celtics. Cavaliers vs. Boston Celtics -- Pregame

              Starting lineups

              Celtics: Rajon Rondo, Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Kendrick Perkins.

              Cavs: Mo Williams, Anthony Parker, LeBron James, Anderson Varejao, Shaquille O'Neal

              Officials: Steve Javie, Tony Brothers, Derek Richardson

              • Delonte West was listed as doubtful by the Cavs following shootaround this morning at The Q. This is not surprising but it is a disappointment, not just for the fans but also the players. Yesterday LeBron James said he was hoping West would be able to join the team for the first big game. This continued yo-yoing, even within the team, must cause distraction, no matter what anyone says.

              • Glen Davis is out of tonight's game with a broken right thumb, which he suffered in a fight with a college teammate Saturday. Reports out of Boston suggest he could miss the next 4-6 weeks and that the Celtics owner, who is not pleased, may suspend him for his actions. The short term impact on the Cavs is this: the Celtics are a little thin up front because Brian Scalabrine is also out. So expect big doses of Rasheed Wallace and Shelden Williams tonight off the bench. This is the depth the Celtics didn't have last season, especially after current Cav Leon Powe got hurt.

              • Strategically, tonight keep an eye on how the Celtics decide to defend Shaquille O'Neal early. Last week in Columbus in a preseason game Boston played Shaq 1-on-1 and he had success against both Perkins and Wallace. It is the Celtics nature to play this way as much as possible, last year in the playoffs Perkins did an excellent job holding Dwight Howard in check by himself. The Cavs might look to test that early.

              • As for an adjustment the Cavs will make, look for them to pay more attention to Marquis Daniels, who scored 19 points on them last week working mostly off the weakside. The Cavs will be keeping a closer eye on him off the bench.

              http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/20...delonte_we.html
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              TN Browns BackerT TN Browns Backer wrote on last edited by
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              @cimo. said:

              First game of the season tonight at 7:30 eastern on TNT.

              Here's Windhorst's preview

              http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/20...delonte_we.html

              Anyone gonna be on here tonight to discuss the game as it goes on?

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                Love it so far. LeBron already makes his highlight reel block, Parker looks very solid.

                And you can already tell Shaq and Varejao are just night and day on offense. It's pretty nice seeing a 7 footer just dropping the ball in the net instead of squirming around trying to get space for a fadeaway jumper.

                Hickson looks skittish so far, hope he settles down.

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                  TN Browns BackerT TN Browns Backer wrote on last edited by
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                  Shaq being night and day is so perfect hah. I do admit though its beautiful having someone down low who is gonna back up and turn on other centers. We have been missing that since we became competitive

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                    So much for the new and improved perimeter D. We're getting killed from 3.

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                      Yea we got rocked. Once again the one difference between us and Boston/Orlando is the 3 pointer in crucial moments. Did you notice the ball was always to LeBron except the one pass walker dropped out of bounds to shoot the 3's? LeBron can shoot all the 3's in the final 2 minutes we need another person to step up in that roll

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                        Yea we got rocked. Once again the one difference between us and Boston/Orlando is the 3 pointer in crucial moments. Did you notice the ball was always to LeBron except the one pass walker dropped out of bounds to shoot the 3's? LeBron can shoot all the 3's in the final 2 minutes we need another person to step up in that roll

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                        @tn-browns-backer said:

                        Yea we got rocked. Once again the one difference between us and Boston/Orlando is the 3 pointer in crucial moments. Did you notice the ball was always to LeBron except the one pass walker dropped out of bounds to shoot the 3's? LeBron can shoot all the 3's in the final 2 minutes we need another person to step up in that roll

                        Mo. I can't stand the 4 other players standing around looking at LeBron. Cut, set a pick, something!

                        Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
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                          Glad to see the gameplan of 4 guys watching LeBron play basketball carried over to this season. The new guys seem to have picked the style up quickly.

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                            I thought Shaq looked good in the halfcourt game, offense and defense. Everyone else (besides LeBron) was pretty invisible. Moon had a nice dunk, Parker had his moments.

                            The bench has to be much better, at the least be able to hold leads...they got torched when LeBron sat down. Once Delonte gets back I think he should run the 2nd unit...I still don't trust Gibson.

                            Varejao needs to get out of the paint on offense, especially when he's playing with Shaq...his post game is just embarrassing.

                            A win would've been huge, but I don't put too much into the loss. Still learning how to mesh with all the new guys, and missing Delonte is big. I don't think anything's changed....still a top 3 team in the east and nothing really matters until the playoffs.

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                              On the bright side...there are plenty of great players with big contracts on struggling teams we can rob.

                              Rudy Gay, Memphis

                              Monta Ellis, Golden State

                              Kevin Martin, Sacramento

                              Al Jefferson, Minnesota

                              Michael Redd, Milwaukee

                              I can pretty much guarantee at least one of those guys will be traded for cap relief....with Redd most likely given his age, then Martin since (from what I've heard) the Kings are in terrible shape financially, then Gay because....it's Memphis. Ellis and Jefferson are wildcards, but if their teams aren't winning and the fans aren't coming to games, I could see them on the block.

                              Whatever happens, it's going to be a loooong regular season, and a crazy trade deadline.

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                                This is ridiculous. We have the slowest front court in basketball right now. The best thing to happen to this team may be Shaq hurting his knee, missing 99% of the season, and coming back for the playoffs. This is absurd we should not lose to Hedo and the raptors.

                                For the record I despise Hedo....

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                                  For the "LeBron is pissed! He knows he can't win here!" crowd...

                                  "Early in my career, I'd get very upset when you lose two or three games, you'd just feel like you can't turn it around. But I'm at a point in my career now where I know that you can lose two but, at the same time, you don't look too far into it. You learn from the mistakes and you just try to get better.

                                  I'm still positive. If it was 25 or 35 games into the season and we were going through a three- or four-game losing streak, then I'd be a little bit disappointed, but I'm not at this point."

                                  http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=291028028
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                                    On the bright side...there are plenty of great players with big contracts on struggling teams we can rob.

                                    Rudy Gay, Memphis

                                    Monta Ellis, Golden State

                                    Kevin Martin, Sacramento

                                    Al Jefferson, Minnesota

                                    Michael Redd, Milwaukee

                                    I can pretty much guarantee at least one of those guys will be traded for cap relief....with Redd most likely given his age, then Martin since (from what I've heard) the Kings are in terrible shape financially, then Gay because....it's Memphis. Ellis and Jefferson are wildcards, but if their teams aren't winning and the fans aren't coming to games, I could see them on the block.

                                    Whatever happens, it's going to be a loooong regular season, and a crazy trade deadline.

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                                    @cimo. said:

                                    On the bright side...there are plenty of great players with big contracts on struggling teams we can rob.

                                    Rudy Gay, Memphis

                                    Monta Ellis, Golden State

                                    Kevin Martin, Sacramento

                                    Al Jefferson, Minnesota

                                    Michael Redd, Milwaukee

                                    I can pretty much guarantee at least one of those guys will be traded for cap relief....with Redd most likely given his age, then Martin since (from what I've heard) the Kings are in terrible shape financially, then Gay because....it's Memphis. Ellis and Jefferson are wildcards, but if their teams aren't winning and the fans aren't coming to games, I could see them on the block.

                                    Whatever happens, it's going to be a loooong regular season, and a crazy trade deadline.

                                    Looks like Monta is the first up in that list, and could be the easiest to grab with the Warriors a total mess.

                                    http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2009...ade-inevitable/

                                    Maybe a Z, Delonte and pick(s) package to get us a 20 ppg scorer who just turned 24 years old. He's not ideal since he's only 6'3 and can't man up on defense, but he could be a perfect fit for the offense. I think his scoring averages (16.5, 20.2 19.3 the last 3 years) are legit considering he's played next to ballhogs like Baron Davis and Stephen Jackson the last few years. Good penetrator, Iverson kind of player. Like what Larry Hughes was supposed to be.

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