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  • DestinFunk DestinFunkD
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    DestinFunkD DestinFunk wrote on last edited by
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    I know many people blame Lerner..he is not around or he is whiney and loves soccer..doesnt live in ohio etc..

    Miami hire parcells in the pres role..to oversee everyone GM..HC on down...a real football guy with a real football brain..

    these people are on the streets right now...

    Holmgren

    Marty Ball

    Cowher

    on and on...

    I am not saying this should happen..but i am curious if someone like that could whip the organaztion in check...as many have complained thats where the issues start

    ~Silence is boring!
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    • Gips GipsG
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      GipsG Gips wrote on last edited by Gips
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      There is no doubt keenan sucks at whatever he does or doesnt due within the organization...but he supposedly isnt in charge of the football operation..only the business side...either way it could be a big part of the problem not having a true football guy overseeing the football operations...😉

      We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS!
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      • The Gipper The GipperT In Memoriam Very Popular
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        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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        Well, figure this out: The following people are still alive and kicking and not currently coaching another NFL team:

        Don Shula

        Chuck Noll

        John Madden

        Joe Gibbs

        Mike Ditka

        Bill Parcells

        George Seifert

        Jimmy Johnson

        Barry Switzer

        Mike Holmgren

        Mike Shanahan

        Dick Vermeil

        Brian Billick

        John Gruden

        Bill Cowher

        Tony Dungy

        Tom Flores

        17 guys: all former Super Bowl winning coaches! All possibly for hire? Which ones would you choose?

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        • Sez.EJ S
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          This is just a repeat of yesterdays post.. new head coach.. should just combine them

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            This is just a repeat of yesterdays post.. new head coach.. should just combine them

            DestinFunk DestinFunkD
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            DestinFunkD DestinFunk wrote on last edited by
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            @sez.ej said:

            This is just a repeat of yesterdays post.. new head coach.. should just combine them

            You sound like Lerner if you think the head coach is the same thing as President of football operations.

            Quite different actually 🙂

            ~Silence is boring!
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            • DestinFunk DestinFunkD
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              DestinFunkD DestinFunk wrote on last edited by
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              wow this was quick...

              By John Taylor

              Posted Oct 29, 2009

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              As the Browns struggle yet again, questions are already arising about the team's new organization. Could a structural change help? We asked, he replied.

              There’s been a growing crescendo in recent weeks that, with the lack of success thus far by the Mangini & Kokinis combo platter, the Browns are in need of yet another hire.

              Not necessarily a new head coach, mind you – although a burgeoning segment of the fan base and media would argue that’s exactly what’s necessary – but rather the hiring of someone to oversee the whole of football operations, something that’s been sorely lacking in the organization since its re-inception back in 1999.

              At no point since the team has returned have the Browns had a single football executive who oversaw all of football operations. The Browns have had an inexperienced GM and head coach working for a business executive (Dwight Clark, Chris Palmer, and Carmen Policy), a first-time NFL head coach who was also the de facto GM (Butch Davis), and two supposedly “equal partnerships” of a head coach and GM (Savage/Crennel and Mangini/Kokinis).

              None of these organizations, to date, have achieved much on-field success, and with the team’s poor start this season, critics are already suggesting that the partnership between Mangini and Kokinis is not working out as hoped.

              One possibility is to put an executive in charge of all of football operations, with the team’s head coach and general manager reporting to him. That executive would have bottom-line responsibility and accountability for the team’s football performance.

              This role can have varying titles, like “President of Football Operations” or “Executive Vice President-Football Operations”, and has been filled elsewhere with individuals like Bill Parcells (Miami Dolphins) and Ozzie Newsome (Baltimore Ravens).

              Of course, the only person with the power to make that sort of organizational change is owner Randy Lerner. And, at first blush, it seems to be an option the son of Al Lerner may consider.

              In response to an email question from theOBR which asked if it made sense to consider hiring a president of football operations or an executive with similar authority, Lerner responded as follows:

              “There is no question that the Browns need a credible, vocal leader that is accountable for all levels of performance. Regardless of the title, that person, whether they're in the building currently or not, is a priority.”

              You can draw your own conclusions as to what Lerner means by that statement, but it certainly seems as if something could be brewing in the upper levels of Berea this offseason. And it’s something that may not sit well at all with

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              • DestinFunkD DestinFunk

                wow this was quick...

                By John Taylor

                Posted Oct 29, 2009

                | More

                As the Browns struggle yet again, questions are already arising about the team's new organization. Could a structural change help? We asked, he replied.

                There’s been a growing crescendo in recent weeks that, with the lack of success thus far by the Mangini & Kokinis combo platter, the Browns are in need of yet another hire.

                Not necessarily a new head coach, mind you – although a burgeoning segment of the fan base and media would argue that’s exactly what’s necessary – but rather the hiring of someone to oversee the whole of football operations, something that’s been sorely lacking in the organization since its re-inception back in 1999.

                At no point since the team has returned have the Browns had a single football executive who oversaw all of football operations. The Browns have had an inexperienced GM and head coach working for a business executive (Dwight Clark, Chris Palmer, and Carmen Policy), a first-time NFL head coach who was also the de facto GM (Butch Davis), and two supposedly “equal partnerships” of a head coach and GM (Savage/Crennel and Mangini/Kokinis).

                None of these organizations, to date, have achieved much on-field success, and with the team’s poor start this season, critics are already suggesting that the partnership between Mangini and Kokinis is not working out as hoped.

                One possibility is to put an executive in charge of all of football operations, with the team’s head coach and general manager reporting to him. That executive would have bottom-line responsibility and accountability for the team’s football performance.

                This role can have varying titles, like “President of Football Operations” or “Executive Vice President-Football Operations”, and has been filled elsewhere with individuals like Bill Parcells (Miami Dolphins) and Ozzie Newsome (Baltimore Ravens).

                Of course, the only person with the power to make that sort of organizational change is owner Randy Lerner. And, at first blush, it seems to be an option the son of Al Lerner may consider.

                In response to an email question from theOBR which asked if it made sense to consider hiring a president of football operations or an executive with similar authority, Lerner responded as follows:

                “There is no question that the Browns need a credible, vocal leader that is accountable for all levels of performance. Regardless of the title, that person, whether they're in the building currently or not, is a priority.”

                You can draw your own conclusions as to what Lerner means by that statement, but it certainly seems as if something could be brewing in the upper levels of Berea this offseason. And it’s something that may not sit well at all with

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                K kshutchins wrote on last edited by
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                @destinfunk said:

                You can draw your own conclusions as to what Lerner means by that statement, but it certainly seems as if something could be brewing in the upper levels of Berea this offseason. And it’s something that may not sit well at all with...

                ... with????

                Interesting idea and possibly the best idea in a long time.

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