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  • I IschY

    Having 11 draft picks in this years draft got me thinking. Through free agency and the draft say we acquire 8 new starting players. What 8 players would you replace off the current depth chart? I know 8 new starters would be a stretch but I was just thinking about how many horrible players we have and as I was doing this I wanted to replace about 12!

    Wide Receiver: Mohamed Massaquoi Move to number 2 receiver

    Wide Receiver: Josh Cribbs Replace

    Left Tackle: Joe Thomas

    Left Guard: Eric Steinbach

    Center: Alex Mack

    Right Guard: Floyd Womack Replace

    Right Tackle: John St. Clair Replace

    Tight End: Robert Royal

    QB: Derek Anderson

    Running Back: Jamal Lewis Replace

    Full Back: Lawrence Vickers

    DEFENSE

    Defensive End: Kenyon Coleman Replace

    Nose Tackle: Shaun Rogers

    Defensive End: Robaire Smith

    LOLB: Kamerion Wimbley

    ILB: D'Qwell Jackson

    ILB: Eric Barton

    ROLB: David Bowens Replace

    LCB: Eric Wright Move to number 2 CB

    RCB: Brandon McDonald Replace

    Safety: Abram Elam

    Safety: Brodney Pool Replace

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    TN Browns BackerT TN Browns Backer wrote on last edited by
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    @ischy said:

    Having 11 draft picks in this years draft got me thinking. Through free agency and the draft say we acquire 8 new starting players. What 8 players would you replace off the current depth chart? I know 8 new starters would be a stretch but I was just thinking about how many horrible players we have and as I was doing this I wanted to replace about 12!

    Wide Receiver: Mohamed Massaquoi Move to number 2 receiver

    Wide Receiver: Josh Cribbs Replace

    Left Tackle: Joe Thomas

    Left Guard: Eric Steinbach

    Center: Alex Mack

    Right Guard: Floyd Womack Replace

    Right Tackle: John St. Clair Replace

    Tight End: Robert Royal

    QB: Derek Anderson

    Running Back: Jamal Lewis Replace

    Full Back: Lawrence Vickers

    DEFENSE

    Defensive End: Kenyon Coleman Replace

    Nose Tackle: Shaun Rogers

    Defensive End: Robaire Smith

    LOLB: Kamerion Wimbley

    ILB: D'Qwell Jackson

    ILB: Eric Barton

    ROLB: David Bowens Replace

    LCB: Eric Wright Move to number 2 CB

    RCB: Brandon McDonald Replace

    Safety: Abram Elam

    Safety: Brodney Pool Replace

    I disagree with replace Muhammad Massaquoi. He is a rookie and has the build to be a #1. By replacing him with another draft pick, you ensure the same results we have had this year with a rookie #1 WR. Aside from that, the same goes with the corners. I like McDonald more than i like 99% of corners coming out of college, and I really like Wright still. I feel like they would excel on a team with better overall play. I also believe Robaire Smith needs replaced. He is aging and his best days are behind him.

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      ClevelandFanForLifeC ClevelandFanForLife wrote on last edited by
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      pretty good analysis ischy. i agree with a lot of it but think that the world is still out on momass being a numebr 1. he's not a 1 right now, but neither is crabtree, nicks, heywood-bey, or maclin.

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        DumAssWhiteGuyD DumAssWhiteGuy wrote on last edited by
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        TE Robert Royal needs to be replaced as soon as possible, not sure how that was overlooked. If I have to watch him get wide open only to drop another pass again in my lifetime it will be soon. Hopefully the next pass he drops comes when he is wearing a different uniform.

        Whatever happened to Savage's overhyped (imagine that from Savage) draft pick that he sacrificed an extra pick because he had to have him? Rucker I think his name was. I think he was cut and nobody in the whole league thought he was worth picking up.

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          @ischy said:

          Having 11 draft picks in this years draft got me thinking. Through free agency and the draft say we acquire 8 new starting players. What 8 players would you replace off the current depth chart? I know 8 new starters would be a stretch but I was just thinking about how many horrible players we have and as I was doing this I wanted to replace about 12!

          Wide Receiver: Mohamed Massaquoi Move to number 2 receiver

          Wide Receiver: Josh Cribbs Replace

          Left Tackle: Joe Thomas

          Left Guard: Eric Steinbach

          Center: Alex Mack

          Right Guard: Floyd Womack Replace

          Right Tackle: John St. Clair Replace

          Tight End: Robert Royal

          QB: Derek Anderson

          Running Back: Jamal Lewis Replace

          Full Back: Lawrence Vickers

          DEFENSE

          Defensive End: Kenyon Coleman Replace

          Nose Tackle: Shaun Rogers

          Defensive End: Robaire Smith

          LOLB: Kamerion Wimbley

          ILB: D'Qwell Jackson

          ILB: Eric Barton

          ROLB: David Bowens Replace

          LCB: Eric Wright Move to number 2 CB

          RCB: Brandon McDonald Replace

          Safety: Abram Elam

          Safety: Brodney Pool Replace

          I disagree with replace Muhammad Massaquoi. He is a rookie and has the build to be a #1. By replacing him with another draft pick, you ensure the same results we have had this year with a rookie #1 WR. Aside from that, the same goes with the corners. I like McDonald more than i like 99% of corners coming out of college, and I really like Wright still. I feel like they would excel on a team with better overall play. I also believe Robaire Smith needs replaced. He is aging and his best days are behind him.

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          @tn-browns-backer said:

          I disagree with replace Muhammad Massaquoi. He is a rookie and has the build to be a #1. By replacing him with another draft pick, you ensure the same results we have had this year with a rookie #1 WR. Aside from that, the same goes with the corners. I like McDonald more than i like 99% of corners coming out of college, and I really like Wright still. I feel like they would excel on a team with better overall play. I also believe Robaire Smith needs replaced. He is aging and his best days are behind him.

          I would not replace Muhammad Massaquoi but I would move him to number 2. I would try to get a veteran wide receiver to play number 1 until he is ready through free agency. I do not want to draft another Wide Receiver for awhile, unless we can find a Colston in the 6th round or whatever. And McDonald needs replaced once again it doesn't have to be the draft we could do it through the free agency route but there is no way he is a 1 or 2 CB in this league.

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            D DawgTracker wrote on last edited by
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            I think that is a pretty fair analysis. I think that Mass will become a number one receiver but it would be nice to have an experienced guy to learn from next year while he is the number two.

            I like McDonald but don't think he is tough enough to play full time in the nfl.

            IF Gaines continues to play well he might make tight end a low priority in the draft unless someone comes along who is just too good of a deal at that spot.

            BPA PLEASE, Let's get 11 good players added to the roster. OK, I don't want 11 offensive guard but bpa within reason

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              The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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              I find it interesting....shocking actually, that you would NOT replace Derrick Anderson.

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                I find it interesting....shocking actually, that you would NOT replace Derrick Anderson.

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                TN Browns BackerT TN Browns Backer wrote on last edited by
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                @the-gipper said:

                I find it interesting....shocking actually, that you would NOT replace Derrick Anderson.

                Haha somehow I missed that till you pointed it out.

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                • The GipperT The Gipper

                  I find it interesting....shocking actually, that you would NOT replace Derrick Anderson.

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                  DrunkandstoopidD Drunkandstoopid wrote on last edited by Drunkandstoopid
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                  @the-gipper said:

                  I find it interesting....shocking actually, that you would NOT replace Derrick Anderson.

                  I wouldn't replace DA this year. Give him a cockpit, bring in a decent journeyman QB for competition (if he's as bad as you say he is he won't be playing, if he's still playing then he's obviously not the worst QB in NFL history that some here claim), then go for a QB the following year.

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                  • I IschY

                    Having 11 draft picks in this years draft got me thinking. Through free agency and the draft say we acquire 8 new starting players. What 8 players would you replace off the current depth chart? I know 8 new starters would be a stretch but I was just thinking about how many horrible players we have and as I was doing this I wanted to replace about 12!

                    Wide Receiver: Mohamed Massaquoi Move to number 2 receiver

                    Wide Receiver: Josh Cribbs Replace

                    Left Tackle: Joe Thomas

                    Left Guard: Eric Steinbach

                    Center: Alex Mack

                    Right Guard: Floyd Womack Replace

                    Right Tackle: John St. Clair Replace

                    Tight End: Robert Royal

                    QB: Derek Anderson

                    Running Back: Jamal Lewis Replace

                    Full Back: Lawrence Vickers

                    DEFENSE

                    Defensive End: Kenyon Coleman Replace

                    Nose Tackle: Shaun Rogers

                    Defensive End: Robaire Smith

                    LOLB: Kamerion Wimbley

                    ILB: D'Qwell Jackson

                    ILB: Eric Barton

                    ROLB: David Bowens Replace

                    LCB: Eric Wright Move to number 2 CB

                    RCB: Brandon McDonald Replace

                    Safety: Abram Elam

                    Safety: Brodney Pool Replace

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                    S Sez.EJ wrote on last edited by
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                    @ischy said:

                    Having 11 draft picks in this years draft got me thinking. Through free agency and the draft say we acquire 8 new starting players. What 8 players would you replace off the current depth chart? I know 8 new starters would be a stretch but I was just thinking about how many horrible players we have and as I was doing this I wanted to replace about 12!

                    Wide Receiver: Mohamed Massaquoi Move to number 2 receiver

                    Wide Receiver: Josh Cribbs Replace

                    Left Tackle: Joe Thomas

                    Left Guard: Eric Steinbach

                    Center: Alex Mack

                    Right Guard: Floyd Womack Replace

                    Right Tackle: John St. Clair Replace

                    Tight End: Robert Royal

                    QB: Derek Anderson

                    Running Back: Jamal Lewis Replace

                    Full Back: Lawrence Vickers

                    DEFENSE

                    Defensive End: Kenyon Coleman Replace

                    Nose Tackle: Shaun Rogers

                    Defensive End: Robaire Smith

                    LOLB: Kamerion Wimbley

                    ILB: D'Qwell Jackson

                    ILB: Eric Barton

                    ROLB: David Bowens Replace

                    LCB: Eric Wright Move to number 2 CB

                    RCB: Brandon McDonald Replace

                    Safety: Abram Elam

                    Safety: Brodney Pool Replace

                    Even in a "perfect world" your not getting 8 starters out of one draft..even if you do get 11 picks.. You will be lucky to get 3 actual starters and 3-4 backup/project/special team guys.. so maybe 7 of 11 even make the team.

                    I am not sure who you bring in as free agents..so that is a mystery because they are usually brought in prior to the draft.. I would think to bring in 2-3 starters in free agency..(will not speculate where right now)

                    Point #1.. Cribbs is not even a starting reciever right NOW.. so he really can't be replaced as a reciever..since he's not a reciever..never has been never will be.. I would go with Furry in that spot beginning today.... so no draft pick at WR.. I like the young guys on the team to develop more. I would try to get lance legget back on the practice squad.

                    As for the 3 guys drafted who I would want to start.. RB and DE would be the top 2

                    My 3rd starter would be RT , safety or another DE. Bringing in 2 DE's would be great by me..we have not drafted 3rd round or higher in 7 years and since we cant stop the run or rush the passer.... well... enough said

                    The other 3-4 backup/project/special team guys.. BPA we need depth everywhere.

                    QB.. i bring in a veteran.. Thow DA to the fish in lake erie and let the veteran, BQ, and Ratliffe battle next year.. BQ starts the rest of the way this year. MOMass and FURRY start at WR"s with ROBO at the 3 beginning now.. Cribbs is only on the field as a WildDawg or the #4 reciever when it comes to offense..

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                      Barton is terrible. Replace.

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                        @ischy said:

                        Having 11 draft picks in this years draft got me thinking. Through free agency and the draft say we acquire 8 new starting players. What 8 players would you replace off the current depth chart? I know 8 new starters would be a stretch but I was just thinking about how many horrible players we have and as I was doing this I wanted to replace about 12!

                        Wide Receiver: Mohamed Massaquoi Move to number 2 receiver

                        Wide Receiver: Josh Cribbs Replace

                        Left Tackle: Joe Thomas

                        Left Guard: Eric Steinbach

                        Center: Alex Mack

                        Right Guard: Floyd Womack Replace

                        Right Tackle: John St. Clair Replace

                        Tight End: Robert Royal

                        QB: Derek Anderson

                        Running Back: Jamal Lewis Replace

                        Full Back: Lawrence Vickers

                        DEFENSE

                        Defensive End: Kenyon Coleman Replace

                        Nose Tackle: Shaun Rogers

                        Defensive End: Robaire Smith

                        LOLB: Kamerion Wimbley

                        ILB: D'Qwell Jackson

                        ILB: Eric Barton

                        ROLB: David Bowens Replace

                        LCB: Eric Wright Move to number 2 CB

                        RCB: Brandon McDonald Replace

                        Safety: Abram Elam

                        Safety: Brodney Pool Replace

                        Even in a "perfect world" your not getting 8 starters out of one draft..even if you do get 11 picks.. You will be lucky to get 3 actual starters and 3-4 backup/project/special team guys.. so maybe 7 of 11 even make the team.

                        I am not sure who you bring in as free agents..so that is a mystery because they are usually brought in prior to the draft.. I would think to bring in 2-3 starters in free agency..(will not speculate where right now)

                        Point #1.. Cribbs is not even a starting reciever right NOW.. so he really can't be replaced as a reciever..since he's not a reciever..never has been never will be.. I would go with Furry in that spot beginning today.... so no draft pick at WR.. I like the young guys on the team to develop more. I would try to get lance legget back on the practice squad.

                        As for the 3 guys drafted who I would want to start.. RB and DE would be the top 2

                        My 3rd starter would be RT , safety or another DE. Bringing in 2 DE's would be great by me..we have not drafted 3rd round or higher in 7 years and since we cant stop the run or rush the passer.... well... enough said

                        The other 3-4 backup/project/special team guys.. BPA we need depth everywhere.

                        QB.. i bring in a veteran.. Thow DA to the fish in lake erie and let the veteran, BQ, and Ratliffe battle next year.. BQ starts the rest of the way this year. MOMass and FURRY start at WR"s with ROBO at the 3 beginning now.. Cribbs is only on the field as a WildDawg or the #4 reciever when it comes to offense..

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                        I IschY wrote on last edited by
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                        @sez.ej said:

                        Even in a "perfect world" your not getting 8 starters out of one draft..even if you do get 11 picks.. You will be lucky to get 3 actual starters and 3-4 backup/project/special team guys.. so maybe 7 of 11 even make the team.

                        The 11-5 2008 Dolphins Replaced at least 8 starters from there 1-15 2007 team. If you believe next year we are only replacing 3 actual starters for next year we are looking at another horrible year. I did not say all the starters needed to come from the draft but through free agency, drafts, and even trades. I just said the 11 draft picks got me thinking about who I would like to see replaced.

                        Also I would replace Anderson I don't even know why I did not mark that!!! He would be one of the first. Sorry about that

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                          Safeties, olb, D end. Then rb and oline

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                            @tn-browns-backer said:

                            I disagree with replace Muhammad Massaquoi. He is a rookie and has the build to be a #1. By replacing him with another draft pick, you ensure the same results we have had this year with a rookie #1 WR. Aside from that, the same goes with the corners. I like McDonald more than i like 99% of corners coming out of college, and I really like Wright still. I feel like they would excel on a team with better overall play. I also believe Robaire Smith needs replaced. He is aging and his best days are behind him.

                            I would not replace Muhammad Massaquoi but I would move him to number 2. I would try to get a veteran wide receiver to play number 1 until he is ready through free agency. I do not want to draft another Wide Receiver for awhile, unless we can find a Colston in the 6th round or whatever. And McDonald needs replaced once again it doesn't have to be the draft we could do it through the free agency route but there is no way he is a 1 or 2 CB in this league.

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                            ATENEARSA ATENEARS wrote on last edited by
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                            @ischy said:

                            I would not replace Muhammad Massaquoi but I would move him to number 2. I would try to get a veteran wide receiver to play number 1 until he is ready through free agency. I do not want to draft another Wide Receiver for awhile, unless we can find a Colston in the 6th round or whatever. And McDonald needs replaced once again it doesn't have to be the draft we could do it through the free agency route but there is no way he is a 1 or 2 CB in this league.

                            Sounds good, but maybe not as easily done.

                            I doubt Colston is still in the legaue if we had drafted him.

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                              Having 11 draft picks in this years draft got me thinking. Through free agency and the draft say we acquire 8 new starting players. What 8 players would you replace off the current depth chart? I know 8 new starters would be a stretch but I was just thinking about how many horrible players we have and as I was doing this I wanted to replace about 12!

                              Wide Receiver: Mohamed Massaquoi Move to number 2 receiver

                              Wide Receiver: Josh Cribbs Replace

                              Left Tackle: Joe Thomas

                              Left Guard: Eric Steinbach

                              Center: Alex Mack

                              Right Guard: Floyd Womack Replace

                              Right Tackle: John St. Clair Replace

                              Tight End: Robert Royal

                              QB: Derek Anderson

                              Running Back: Jamal Lewis Replace

                              Full Back: Lawrence Vickers

                              DEFENSE

                              Defensive End: Kenyon Coleman Replace

                              Nose Tackle: Shaun Rogers

                              Defensive End: Robaire Smith

                              LOLB: Kamerion Wimbley

                              ILB: D'Qwell Jackson

                              ILB: Eric Barton

                              ROLB: David Bowens Replace

                              LCB: Eric Wright Move to number 2 CB

                              RCB: Brandon McDonald Replace

                              Safety: Abram Elam

                              Safety: Brodney Pool Replace

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                              ATENEARSA ATENEARS wrote on last edited by
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                              @ischy said:

                              Having 11 draft picks in this years draft got me thinking. Through free agency and the draft say we acquire 8 new starting players. What 8 players would you replace off the current depth chart? I know 8 new starters would be a stretch but I was just thinking about how many horrible players we have and as I was doing this I wanted to replace about 12!

                              Wide Receiver: Mohamed Massaquoi Move to number 2 receiver

                              Wide Receiver: Josh Cribbs Replace

                              Left Tackle: Joe Thomas

                              Left Guard: Eric Steinbach

                              Center: Alex Mack

                              Right Guard: Floyd Womack Replace

                              Right Tackle: John St. Clair Replace

                              Tight End: Robert Royal

                              QB: Derek Anderson

                              Running Back: Jamal Lewis Replace

                              Full Back: Lawrence Vickers

                              DEFENSE

                              Defensive End: Kenyon Coleman Replace

                              Nose Tackle: Shaun Rogers

                              Defensive End: Robaire Smith

                              LOLB: Kamerion Wimbley

                              ILB: D'Qwell Jackson

                              ILB: Eric Barton

                              ROLB: David Bowens Replace

                              LCB: Eric Wright Move to number 2 CB

                              RCB: Brandon McDonald Replace

                              Safety: Abram Elam

                              Safety: Brodney Pool Replace

                              Regardless what everyoner feels on MoMass, that is 8-9 starting positions that need to be upgraded. No way do we hit 9-of-11 in the draft ... gonna take a couple key FA acquistions.

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