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Rob Ryan's showing leadership

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  • Spectrum S
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    S Spectrum wrote on last edited by
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    From what I remember of his Oakland Ds, is that they weren't just his. Team ran the same defense before he got there, and after he got there, and still is now that he's 2500 miles away.

    I remember reading about Ryan putting in game plan specific defenses Friday nights and Saturday mornings so that Al Davis didn't see them when he OK'd that weeks strategy. I realize there are a lot of conspiracy theories surrounding Davis and what he does or doesn't do in Oakland. But when a team is running the same one deep safety, man coverage, 4-3 for as long as I can remember, with at least 5 DCs I can remember, I'd be willing to bet that's no BS.

    Now the D hasn't been good here. Had flashes where I liked what I saw. I'm not about to give up, say fire everyone and start over again. That's exactly how the organization got to this point. I don't care how bad it looks this year; it's not as if I expected the lousy team from last year, now with more draft picks and less talent, to win any awards.

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    • B Bag O'Browns

      I think he's just a dude who speaks his mind when something bugs him. Seems like something his old man would do...

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      D dencyguy wrote on last edited by
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      @bag-o-browns said:

      I think he's just a dude who speaks his mind when something bugs him. Seems like something his old man would do...

      Not for nothing, but as a head coach, Buddy was a great defensive coordinator...not that that means that Rob (who hasn't ever dazzled as a DC) wouldn't be the opposite, but still.

      Dennis

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        Rooster DickR Rooster Dick wrote on last edited by
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        Someone with a little fire.. he should be the head coach

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          BrownsFan4EvrB BrownsFan4Evr wrote on last edited by
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          Well, it seems more honest than Mangini cruising through the season like everything's going fine.

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          • BrownsFan4EvrB BrownsFan4Evr

            Well, it seems more honest than Mangini cruising through the season like everything's going fine.

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            ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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            @brownsfan4evr said:

            Well, it seems more honest than Mangini cruising through the season like everything's going fine.

            Mangini knows things aren't where they need to be...ranting and raving isn't going to change anything.

            If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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              @brownsfan4evr said:

              Well, it seems more honest than Mangini cruising through the season like everything's going fine.

              Mangini knows things aren't where they need to be...ranting and raving isn't going to change anything.

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              D dawgpound3 wrote on last edited by
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              @ballpeen said:

              Mangini knows things aren't where they need to be...ranting and raving isn't going to change anything.

              Mangini is a loser. He lies and cheats. Ryan is an all out honest to god coach. Something Mangini will never be.

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                BrownIndianB BrownIndian wrote on last edited by
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                Please do not judge Ryans abilities from his stint in Oakland. Norv Turner failed there, Bill Calahan struggled there - even the players - Kerry collins, Randy moss, warren sap - that place is a circus house man !

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                  Someone with a little fire.. he should be the head coach

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                  ATENEARSA ATENEARS wrote on last edited by
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                  Chickenwang said:

                  Someone with a little fire.. he should be the head coach

                  We all cried the same thing about Defensive Coordinator Todd Grantham ... months later we was fired by Crennel and hired as the Cowboys Defensive line coach. The Cowboys were ranked 6th in Rush defense prior to Grantham joining them, 12th last season under Grantham and 16th so far this year.

                  Add Grantham to the list of personnel us fans bitched to be promoted. Good thing we didn't boycott that one ...

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                    Please do not judge Ryans abilities from his stint in Oakland. Norv Turner failed there, Bill Calahan struggled there - even the players - Kerry collins, Randy moss, warren sap - that place is a circus house man !

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                    P PlayoffsIN09 wrote on last edited by
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                    @brownindian said:

                    Please do not judge Ryans abilities from his stint in Oakland. Norv Turner failed there, Bill Calahan struggled there - even the players - Kerry collins, Randy moss, warren sap - that place is a circus house man !

                    Excellent point/post

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                      Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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                      This is my favorite part of that article and I think it sums up the way I think we should all feel as Browns fans:

                      "This is a town that's tough and loves football," Ryan said. "Nobody's happy. I hate me, too. So, they hate me. That doesn't mean you turn your back. I've got a kid who flunked a class one time. I don't turn my back on him, I go get him a tutor and help him. Now he's a straight-A student, as far as you know.

                      "Bottom line is, my God, a little adversity happens, you don't turn your back. You fight, you rub your hands together and you fight harder. That's what we're going to do on defense. It starts with Chicago, not after the open week. We're not saving anything for the open week. We're going to get after it this week."

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