Does the Boycott still take place, if Quinn is named starter?
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Will the boycott still go through if Mangini states in his press conference that Brady Quinn will receive the Bye week to prepare for a start against the Ravens on MNF?
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Will the boycott still go through if Mangini states in his press conference that Brady Quinn will receive the Bye week to prepare for a start against the Ravens on MNF?
Will the boycott still go through if Mangini states in his press conference that Brady Quinn will receive the Bye week to prepare for a start against the Ravens on MNF?
Mangini will NEVER say who he is going to start...he will continue this pokerface bullshit that has gotten us nowhere so far
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I would think so, the boycott is about the talent of the overall team and not just a QB change
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I think this has got nothing to do with the QB situation.
It's about the management of this team.
Hope this "boycott" is confirmed.
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boycott. pfft. those of us with heart simply can't relate.
want heard? write a fugging letter.
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I don't know but if quinn ISN'T named starter the boycott will be twice as bad. I thought it was dumb but will consider participating if mangini stays with derek or doesn't announce and keeps playing his head games.
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Will the boycott still go through if Mangini states in his press conference that Brady Quinn will receive the Bye week to prepare for a start against the Ravens on MNF?
Will the boycott still go through if Mangini states in his press conference that Brady Quinn will receive the Bye week to prepare for a start against the Ravens on MNF?
I don't see what your starting QB has to do with this. Yeah, it would be a good decision to bench DA, but that does not take away the assinine things Mangini did this season. Personally I don't understand why your owner is not firing him right now. At least he is bringing in some help. Mangini is in way over his head.
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I would think so, the boycott is about the talent of the overall team and not just a QB change
I would think so, the boycott is about the talent of the overall team and not just a QB change
WHAT are they boycotting?
The 4 draft picks Savage left us for 2009?
Josh Cribbs?
Joe Thomas?
Shaun Rogers?
Kam Wimbley?
Alex mack?
What a NICE way remind our players of why they can't wait to get the Hell out of Cleveland?
This is the DUMBEST thing I've ever heard of.
Somebody with decent writing skills should draft up a letter to Roger Goodell that this level of ownership for such a storied franchise is completely unacceptable. Then get as many signatures as possible. This owning a Pro Soccer team overseas while our owner doesn't even know anything about our Qb situation is a gigantic red flag.
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Will the boycott still go through if Mangini states in his press conference that Brady Quinn will receive the Bye week to prepare for a start against the Ravens on MNF?
Will the boycott still go through if Mangini states in his press conference that Brady Quinn will receive the Bye week to prepare for a start against the Ravens on MNF?
Got a text from a old reporter friend that covers the Browns and it isn't if Quinn will start, it is that Lerner said the QB controversy is over. I think they may be looking to release DA this week on orders from Lerner. Lerner was pissed when Quinn got the quick hook in the first place.
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I would think so, the boycott is about the talent of the overall team and not just a QB change
WHAT are they boycotting?
The 4 draft picks Savage left us for 2009?
Josh Cribbs?
Joe Thomas?
Shaun Rogers?
Kam Wimbley?
Alex mack?
What a NICE way remind our players of why they can't wait to get the Hell out of Cleveland?
This is the DUMBEST thing I've ever heard of.
Somebody with decent writing skills should draft up a letter to Roger Goodell that this level of ownership for such a storied franchise is completely unacceptable. Then get as many signatures as possible. This owning a Pro Soccer team overseas while our owner doesn't even know anything about our Qb situation is a gigantic red flag.
- Tom F.
WHAT are they boycotting?
The 4 draft picks Savage left us for 2009?
Josh Cribbs?
Joe Thomas?
Shaun Rogers?
Kam Wimbley?
Alex mack?
What a NICE way remind our players of why they can't wait to get the Hell out of Cleveland?
This is the DUMBEST thing I've ever heard of.
Somebody with decent writing skills should draft up a letter to Roger Goodell that this level of ownership for such a storied franchise is completely unacceptable. Then get as many signatures as possible. This owning a Pro Soccer team overseas while our owner doesn't even know anything about our Qb situation is a gigantic red flag.
- Tom F.
Tom, I would think they would be boycotting the games because the coach has made some of the most questionable choices ever. Anyone that trades away some of the best talent on the team for pennies on the dollar, keeps starting a QB that should never have even been given a chance in the first place, (come on, everyone else in the NFL knew that DA was garbage years ago) and then your coach proceeded from day one to tear apart any team chemistry that was there already. He let his ego get in his way and every one of you should be screaming for the guys head. What he did was almost criminal and I will admit that I was way way way wrong about Mangini when I said the browns had finally had a decent coach. The owner needs to sit down with someone like Cowher or Parcells and figure out exactly what their game plan is because it has only been getting worse. I never thought I would say that Mangini was a worse coach than Romeo, but he is. I wish you the best and hope your team figures this out.
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WHAT are they boycotting?
The 4 draft picks Savage left us for 2009?
Josh Cribbs?
Joe Thomas?
Shaun Rogers?
Kam Wimbley?
Alex mack?
What a NICE way remind our players of why they can't wait to get the Hell out of Cleveland?
This is the DUMBEST thing I've ever heard of.
Somebody with decent writing skills should draft up a letter to Roger Goodell that this level of ownership for such a storied franchise is completely unacceptable. Then get as many signatures as possible. This owning a Pro Soccer team overseas while our owner doesn't even know anything about our Qb situation is a gigantic red flag.
- Tom F.
Tom, I would think they would be boycotting the games because the coach has made some of the most questionable choices ever. Anyone that trades away some of the best talent on the team for pennies on the dollar, keeps starting a QB that should never have even been given a chance in the first place, (come on, everyone else in the NFL knew that DA was garbage years ago) and then your coach proceeded from day one to tear apart any team chemistry that was there already. He let his ego get in his way and every one of you should be screaming for the guys head. What he did was almost criminal and I will admit that I was way way way wrong about Mangini when I said the browns had finally had a decent coach. The owner needs to sit down with someone like Cowher or Parcells and figure out exactly what their game plan is because it has only been getting worse. I never thought I would say that Mangini was a worse coach than Romeo, but he is. I wish you the best and hope your team figures this out.
Tom, I would think they would be boycotting the games because the coach has made some of the most questionable choices ever. Anyone that trades away some of the best talent on the team for pennies on the dollar, keeps starting a QB that should never have even been given a chance in the first place, (come on, everyone else in the NFL knew that DA was garbage years ago) and then your coach proceeded from day one to tear apart any team chemistry that was there already. He let his ego get in his way and every one of you should be screaming for the guys head. What he did was almost criminal and I will admit that I was way way way wrong about Mangini when I said the browns had finally had a decent coach. The owner needs to sit down with someone like Cowher or Parcells and figure out exactly what their game plan is because it has only been getting worse. I never thought I would say that Mangini was a worse coach than Romeo, but he is. I wish you the best and hope your team figures this out.
I'm not half as harsh as some of the folks here are about Lerner. Grandpa Rooney had an unmitigated disaster of a franchise until he hit the motherlode with Chuck Noll. Maybe a parallel can be drawn to the Browns southern neighbors- the Bengals. Plenty of folks consider Mike Brown to be a dolt- but should we follow his example and wait another 5 years to see if Mangini is the next Marvin Lewis (or Bill Belicheck) or the next David Shula? This fanbase is totally fed up, and sure won't wait that long to find out.
Tom pointed out there still is some talent on this team- but it's performing worse than the expansion '99 Browns. That's on the coaching staff.
Didn't Mangini tell Lerner he "could win with Quinn?" So he yanks BQ and keeps trotting out a guy who with 30 more passing attempts would qualify for the worst passer rating in the history of the NFL, and then tells the fans "we have the best chance to win" with this bozo interception machine out there. Whatever you're smoking Eric, could I have a hit or two? It might make the Sundays more tolerable.
Like Little League baseball- for the good of the team, the player, and the fans Lerner has to step in and end this travesty NOW. Cut DA, and stop him from embarrassing himself further. And if EM won't go along, fire him too. I have three good reasons to do so- Cowher, Gruden, and Shanahan.
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I think they need to fire Mangini and get someone with a proven winning record. He will have to open his wallet and make it a position that people want. With the dismantalling done by Mangini, I think it will take a coach a couple years to really get that team competitive again. It's lost it's heart and soul and what made it a proud franchise. Even though you guys have had some tough years, I never saw that happen until this season.
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I would think so, the boycott is about the talent of the overall team and not just a QB change
I would think so, the boycott is about the talent of the overall team and not just a QB change
I don't know. My feeling is the majority of the malcontents are the ones who invested so heavily in BQ.
JMO
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Tom, I would think they would be boycotting the games because the coach has made some of the most questionable choices ever. Anyone that trades away some of the best talent on the team for pennies on the dollar, keeps starting a QB that should never have even been given a chance in the first place, (come on, everyone else in the NFL knew that DA was garbage years ago) and then your coach proceeded from day one to tear apart any team chemistry that was there already. He let his ego get in his way and every one of you should be screaming for the guys head. What he did was almost criminal and I will admit that I was way way way wrong about Mangini when I said the browns had finally had a decent coach. The owner needs to sit down with someone like Cowher or Parcells and figure out exactly what their game plan is because it has only been getting worse. I never thought I would say that Mangini was a worse coach than Romeo, but he is. I wish you the best and hope your team figures this out.
I'm not half as harsh as some of the folks here are about Lerner. Grandpa Rooney had an unmitigated disaster of a franchise until he hit the motherlode with Chuck Noll. Maybe a parallel can be drawn to the Browns southern neighbors- the Bengals. Plenty of folks consider Mike Brown to be a dolt- but should we follow his example and wait another 5 years to see if Mangini is the next Marvin Lewis (or Bill Belicheck) or the next David Shula? This fanbase is totally fed up, and sure won't wait that long to find out.
Tom pointed out there still is some talent on this team- but it's performing worse than the expansion '99 Browns. That's on the coaching staff.
Didn't Mangini tell Lerner he "could win with Quinn?" So he yanks BQ and keeps trotting out a guy who with 30 more passing attempts would qualify for the worst passer rating in the history of the NFL, and then tells the fans "we have the best chance to win" with this bozo interception machine out there. Whatever you're smoking Eric, could I have a hit or two? It might make the Sundays more tolerable.
Like Little League baseball- for the good of the team, the player, and the fans Lerner has to step in and end this travesty NOW. Cut DA, and stop him from embarrassing himself further. And if EM won't go along, fire him too. I have three good reasons to do so- Cowher, Gruden, and Shanahan.
I have three good reasons to do so- Cowher, Gruden, and Shanahan.
Take away the first name and I'll vote you as the next Browns GM...
Seriously, I'd be ready to bet on a positive U-turn of this franchise with the arrival of Gruden.
I know Mangenius has been there for a few months (and games) only, but I have the feeling he will never lead the team anywhere.
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I would think so, the boycott is about the talent of the overall team and not just a QB change
I don't know. My feeling is the majority of the malcontents are the ones who invested so heavily in BQ.
JMO
I don't know. My feeling is the majority of the malcontents are the ones who invested so heavily in BQ.
JMO
I have no problem with the fact that people are discontented with the state of affairs in the Browns organization. I also have no problem with people expressing their discontent peacefully. I don't have a problem with these people trying to persuade others to join them in their expression of discontent. AND I don't have a problem with people complaining.
I DO have a problem with people who berate others for disagreeing with them. I also have a problem with people who try to FORCE others to participate in protests, or, again, berating them for not joining. I especially have a problem with these things when the central topic is football rather than any one of a number of vastly more significant issues in our society.
I would not call myself "heavily invested in BQ" but I did think it was a mistake to yank him so quickly. I especially thought this because the coach seemed to be emphatic about the fact that he WASN'T going to be quick on the trigger once the decision was made. It was a critical mistake that undermined his credibility. This was made worse by the fact that no matter how poor Anderson's performance became, there were no apparent consequences.
I am horrified by the fact the Lerner doesn't seem to have expected an explanation of these decisions before now.
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I watched the game with my good friend the Gipper and we kinda went through this for most of the game.
He says why the hell not play Quinn and I say why?
If neither is worth a starting slot why pay Quinn a huge bonus?
And if it's merely to say "what the hell" then why not just field the entire second or third squad?
How much worse could they suck?
Personally the boycott is gay but not quite as gay as blind love for one position.
I could almost imagine one of the guys over on the homo board rubbing one off as he watched Cutler's closeups.
Guess who?
WSS
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I think they need to fire Mangini and get someone with a proven winning record. He will have to open his wallet and make it a position that people want. With the dismantalling done by Mangini, I think it will take a coach a couple years to really get that team competitive again. It's lost it's heart and soul and what made it a proud franchise. Even though you guys have had some tough years, I never saw that happen until this season.
I think they need to fire Mangini and get someone with a proven winning record. He will have to open his wallet and make it a position that people want. With the dismantalling done by Mangini, I think it will take a coach a couple years to really get that team competitive again. It's lost it's heart and soul and what made it a proud franchise. Even though you guys have had some tough years, I never saw that happen until this season.
You have a good point Fan of Steel. If you're going to invest millions and millions of dollars over the years to re-build you want someone that has a proven track record of building a team and the record to show for it.
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I don't know. My feeling is the majority of the malcontents are the ones who invested so heavily in BQ.
JMO
I have no problem with the fact that people are discontented with the state of affairs in the Browns organization. I also have no problem with people expressing their discontent peacefully. I don't have a problem with these people trying to persuade others to join them in their expression of discontent. AND I don't have a problem with people complaining.
I DO have a problem with people who berate others for disagreeing with them. I also have a problem with people who try to FORCE others to participate in protests, or, again, berating them for not joining. I especially have a problem with these things when the central topic is football rather than any one of a number of vastly more significant issues in our society.
I would not call myself "heavily invested in BQ" but I did think it was a mistake to yank him so quickly. I especially thought this because the coach seemed to be emphatic about the fact that he WASN'T going to be quick on the trigger once the decision was made. It was a critical mistake that undermined his credibility. This was made worse by the fact that no matter how poor Anderson's performance became, there were no apparent consequences.
I am horrified by the fact the Lerner doesn't seem to have expected an explanation of these decisions before now.
I have no problem with the fact that people are discontented with the state of affairs in the Browns organization.
Nor do I...I think all fans have to feel the same way. I know I am not happy with the current state of affairs. We shouldn't be happy.
I hope you didn't take my use of the word malcontent as name calling...it is simply a word that fits.
I would be one as well. I just think the method some people think is going to send a message is misguided.
But hey....it seems the message has already been sent as witnessed by Lerners actions yesterday.
The next 3-4 days are going to be interesting.
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Will the boycott still go through if Mangini states in his press conference that Brady Quinn will receive the Bye week to prepare for a start against the Ravens on MNF?
Will the boycott still go through if Mangini states in his press conference that Brady Quinn will receive the Bye week to prepare for a start against the Ravens on MNF?
NO.
Tiptoe around the subject all you want. Yell, bitch, and moan about the overall play and perceived direction of this team till you're blue (or brown) in the face but this is first and foremost about the QB position. If DA's play wasn't so tragic and if the offense would actually score points on a regular basis there would be no boycott. Yes we got rid of our playmakers for whatever reasons and no one has stepped up but the QB is the marquee position and DA has been truly bad.
Just for the record I'm anti boycotting the game but all for not buying any team merchandise. And for those going to the game try not buying any concessions while you're there. Yes beer included
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