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  • Folks,

    This post is somewhat in rsponse to those thinking Bernie Kosar is ready to be Ozzie Newsome today. It wasn't THAT long ago where we were feeling BAD for Bernie Kosar because he fell on hard luck that had him claiming bankruptcy right? We all commented that it was too bad because he is seemingly a great guy that was once a great QB; but hard times can confront anybody. Not to be cruel but if he can't even run his own family finances and keep things going in a positive direction there - what makes him ready for an NFL GM job just because he knows Xs and Os?

    We have no evidence Bernie knows the BEST talent evaluators working today or RIGHT coach ready for success. Lerner doesn't either which worries the Hell out of me. All Lerner's decisions are knee jerk that aren't well thought out.

    When I watch all these halftime/postgame shows, I'm getting the sense MOST of the people employed by those shows exercise restrain from what they really think of the Cleveland front office. You better believe when the cameras are off them - they're laughing their collective asses off at the football follies in Cleveland for the 9th season of 11 in body by Lerner. Of course Boomer and the speech impeeded Sharpe run their yaps anyway. Trrent Doofus has too on various shows and for various media sources

    THIS time it would be nice to know the owner's rationale behind his next decision. Whoever he hires WHAT makes him/her the RIGHT President? If Randy REALLY wanted to shake things up and GET my attention - he'd REMIND Ozzie Newsome he was a Cleveland Brown and show him the money. There's your PROVEN guy right there. We keep going for all these Bill Belichick and Ozzie Newsome pupils. Do I need to remind people what Bill Belichick coached like BEFORE Tom Brady was drafted by the NE Patriots? We had 1 playoff season in the 5 years he was in Cleveland.

    Randy Lerner's FIRST decision is that he needs to decide what Pro Sports franchise he wants to own. If he chooses Cleveland, now it's more of an ownership instead of a conflict of interest parted by the Atlantic Ocean if you will. NEXT, he needs to invest MORE time in this franchise to UNDERSTAND what happened with Brady Quinn's evolution instead of telling us he had no knowledge of his progress or readiness to start since the day he was drafted. Folks, the PRODUCT in NE is Tom Brady just like the PRODUCT in Indy is Peyton Manning. Find me an organization that wins more and I'll bet they have a pretty special PRODUCT at QB. If you don't have an understanding of what you have in terms of PRODUCT - that's a pretty shitty business. When an organization drafts what they hope is a franchise QB - you can't allow what happened the last 3 years with 2 guys each other's progress. The OWNER should have been involved every step of the way or he's jamming the fans foilling his wallet with 3 years of QB controversy. Even worse, what DECENT free agents are gonna want Cleveland to be their next home and we've pretty much scared away any future Head Coaches with the right mind.

    Speaking of PRODUCT, shouldn't you know a little something about Brady Quinn when there's been countless jerseys with the #10 purchased by your faithful customers? That being the case, you MIGHT want to know your customers a LITTLE more than you've decided to Randy. I'm not happy this guy is getting a fat wallet off a once proud tradition his family has turned into an extended expansion team. This is season #11 and I'm wondering if we're good enough to equal the 2 wins we got in 1999. Gee, who can I thank?????

    - Tom F. (It's not the scapegoats folks - it's the lack of time commitment this owner has made to the Cleveland Browns!)

    @flugel said:

    Folks,

    This post is somewhat in rsponse to those thinking Bernie Kosar is ready to be Ozzie Newsome today. It wasn't THAT long ago where we were feeling BAD for Bernie Kosar because he fell on hard luck that had him claiming bankruptcy right? We all commented that it was too bad because he is seemingly a great guy that was once a great QB; but hard times can confront anybody. Not to be cruel but if he can't even run his own family finances and keep things going in a positive direction there - what makes him ready for an NFL GM job just because he knows Xs and Os?

    We have no evidence Bernie knows the BEST talent evaluators working today or RIGHT coach ready for success. Lerner doesn't either which worries the Hell out of me. All Lerner's decisions are knee jerk that aren't well thought out.

    When I watch all these halftime/postgame shows, I'm getting the sense MOST of the people employed by those shows exercise restrain from what they really think of the Cleveland front office. You better believe when the cameras are off them - they're laughing their collective asses off at the football follies in Cleveland for the 9th season of 11 in body by Lerner. Of course Boomer and the speech impeeded Sharpe run their yaps anyway. Trrent Doofus has too on various shows and for various media sources

    THIS time it would be nice to know the owner's rationale behind his next decision. Whoever he hires WHAT makes him/her the RIGHT President? If Phil REALLY wanted to shake things up and GET my attention - he'd REMIND Ozzie Newsome he was a Cleveland Brown and show him the money. There's your PROVEN guy right there. We keep going for all these Bill Belichick and Ozzie Newsome pupils. Do I need to remind people what Bill Belichick coached like BEFORE Tom Brady was drafted by the NE Patriots? We had 1 playoff season in the 5 years he was in Cleveland.

    Randy Lerner's FIRST decision is that he needs to decide what Pro Sports franchise he wants to own. If he chooses Cleveland, now it's more of an ownership instead of a conflict of interest parted by the Atlantic Ocean if you will. NEXT, he needs to invest MORE time in this franchise to UNDERSTAND what happened with Brady Quinn's evolution instead of telling us he had no knowledge of his progress or readiness to start since the day he was drafted. Folks, the PRODUCT in NE is Tom Brady just like the PRODUCT in Indy is Peyton Manning. Find me an organization that wins more and I'll bet they have a pretty special PRODUCT at QB. If you don't have an understanding of what you have in terms of PRODUCT - that's a pretty shitty business. When an organization drafts what they hope is a franchise QB - you can't allow what happened the last 3 years with 2 guys each other's progress. The OWNER should have been involved every step of the way or he's jamming the fans foilling his wallet with 3 years of QB controversy. Even worse, what DECENT free agents are gonna want Cleveland to be their next home and we've pretty much scared away any future Head Coaches with the right mind.

    Speaking of PRODUCT, shouldn't you know a little something about Brady Quinn when there's been countless jerseys with the #10 purchased by your faithful customers? That being the case, you MIGHT want to know your customers a LITTLE more than you've decided to Randy. I'm not happy this guy is getting a fat wallet off a once proud tradition his family has turned into an extended expansion team. This is season #11 and I'm wondering if we're good enough to equal the 2 wins we got in 1999. Gee, who can I thank?????

    - Tom F. (It's not the scapegoats folks - it's the lack of time commitment this owner has made to the Cleveland Browns!)

    First of all, I'm all for Kosar being named President of the Browns. We're talking about a guy who is intelligent enough to manipulate the NFL to his advantage out of college.

  • Browns new coach in 2010 will be the highest paid in the NFL.

  • @flugel said:

    Folks,

    This post is somewhat in rsponse to those thinking Bernie Kosar is ready to be Ozzie Newsome today. It wasn't THAT long ago where we were feeling BAD for Bernie Kosar because he fell on hard luck that had him claiming bankruptcy right? We all commented that it was too bad because he is seemingly a great guy that was once a great QB; but hard times can confront anybody. Not to be cruel but if he can't even run his own family finances and keep things going in a positive direction there - what makes him ready for an NFL GM job just because he knows Xs and Os?

    We have no evidence Bernie knows the BEST talent evaluators working today or RIGHT coach ready for success. Lerner doesn't either which worries the Hell out of me. All Lerner's decisions are knee jerk that aren't well thought out.

    When I watch all these halftime/postgame shows, I'm getting the sense MOST of the people employed by those shows exercise restrain from what they really think of the Cleveland front office. You better believe when the cameras are off them - they're laughing their collective asses off at the football follies in Cleveland for the 9th season of 11 in body by Lerner. Of course Boomer and the speech impeeded Sharpe run their yaps anyway. Trrent Doofus has too on various shows and for various media sources

    THIS time it would be nice to know the owner's rationale behind his next decision. Whoever he hires WHAT makes him/her the RIGHT President? If Phil REALLY wanted to shake things up and GET my attention - he'd REMIND Ozzie Newsome he was a Cleveland Brown and show him the money. There's your PROVEN guy right there. We keep going for all these Bill Belichick and Ozzie Newsome pupils. Do I need to remind people what Bill Belichick coached like BEFORE Tom Brady was drafted by the NE Patriots? We had 1 playoff season in the 5 years he was in Cleveland.

    Randy Lerner's FIRST decision is that he needs to decide what Pro Sports franchise he wants to own. If he chooses Cleveland, now it's more of an ownership instead of a conflict of interest parted by the Atlantic Ocean if you will. NEXT, he needs to invest MORE time in this franchise to UNDERSTAND what happened with Brady Quinn's evolution instead of telling us he had no knowledge of his progress or readiness to start since the day he was drafted. Folks, the PRODUCT in NE is Tom Brady just like the PRODUCT in Indy is Peyton Manning. Find me an organization that wins more and I'll bet they have a pretty special PRODUCT at QB. If you don't have an understanding of what you have in terms of PRODUCT - that's a pretty shitty business. When an organization drafts what they hope is a franchise QB - you can't allow what happened the last 3 years with 2 guys each other's progress. The OWNER should have been involved every step of the way or he's jamming the fans foilling his wallet with 3 years of QB controversy. Even worse, what DECENT free agents are gonna want Cleveland to be their next home and we've pretty much scared away any future Head Coaches with the right mind.

    Speaking of PRODUCT, shouldn't you know a little something about Brady Quinn when there's been countless jerseys with the #10 purchased by your faithful customers? That being the case, you MIGHT want to know your customers a LITTLE more than you've decided to Randy. I'm not happy this guy is getting a fat wallet off a once proud tradition his family has turned into an extended expansion team. This is season #11 and I'm wondering if we're good enough to equal the 2 wins we got in 1999. Gee, who can I thank?????

    - Tom F. (It's not the scapegoats folks - it's the lack of time commitment this owner has made to the Cleveland Browns!)

    First of all, I'm all for Kosar being named President of the Browns. We're talking about a guy who is intelligent enough to manipulate the NFL to his advantage out of college.

    @lodilobo said:

    First of all, I'm all for Kosar being named President of the Browns. We're talking about a guy who is intelligent enough to manipulate the NFL to his advantage out of college.

    So you've concluded that makes him NFL president material? God bless ya! You didn't read a thing I wrote. You just told me who your hometown hero was. We're talking about 2 different things here.

    - Tom F.

  • Folks,

    This post is somewhat in rsponse to those thinking Bernie Kosar is ready to be Ozzie Newsome today. It wasn't THAT long ago where we were feeling BAD for Bernie Kosar because he fell on hard luck that had him claiming bankruptcy right? We all commented that it was too bad because he is seemingly a great guy that was once a great QB; but hard times can confront anybody. Not to be cruel but if he can't even run his own family finances and keep things going in a positive direction there - what makes him ready for an NFL GM job just because he knows Xs and Os?

    We have no evidence Bernie knows the BEST talent evaluators working today or RIGHT coach ready for success. Lerner doesn't either which worries the Hell out of me. All Lerner's decisions are knee jerk that aren't well thought out.

    When I watch all these halftime/postgame shows, I'm getting the sense MOST of the people employed by those shows exercise restrain from what they really think of the Cleveland front office. You better believe when the cameras are off them - they're laughing their collective asses off at the football follies in Cleveland for the 9th season of 11 in body by Lerner. Of course Boomer and the speech impeeded Sharpe run their yaps anyway. Trrent Doofus has too on various shows and for various media sources

    THIS time it would be nice to know the owner's rationale behind his next decision. Whoever he hires WHAT makes him/her the RIGHT President? If Randy REALLY wanted to shake things up and GET my attention - he'd REMIND Ozzie Newsome he was a Cleveland Brown and show him the money. There's your PROVEN guy right there. We keep going for all these Bill Belichick and Ozzie Newsome pupils. Do I need to remind people what Bill Belichick coached like BEFORE Tom Brady was drafted by the NE Patriots? We had 1 playoff season in the 5 years he was in Cleveland.

    Randy Lerner's FIRST decision is that he needs to decide what Pro Sports franchise he wants to own. If he chooses Cleveland, now it's more of an ownership instead of a conflict of interest parted by the Atlantic Ocean if you will. NEXT, he needs to invest MORE time in this franchise to UNDERSTAND what happened with Brady Quinn's evolution instead of telling us he had no knowledge of his progress or readiness to start since the day he was drafted. Folks, the PRODUCT in NE is Tom Brady just like the PRODUCT in Indy is Peyton Manning. Find me an organization that wins more and I'll bet they have a pretty special PRODUCT at QB. If you don't have an understanding of what you have in terms of PRODUCT - that's a pretty shitty business. When an organization drafts what they hope is a franchise QB - you can't allow what happened the last 3 years with 2 guys each other's progress. The OWNER should have been involved every step of the way or he's jamming the fans foilling his wallet with 3 years of QB controversy. Even worse, what DECENT free agents are gonna want Cleveland to be their next home and we've pretty much scared away any future Head Coaches with the right mind.

    Speaking of PRODUCT, shouldn't you know a little something about Brady Quinn when there's been countless jerseys with the #10 purchased by your faithful customers? That being the case, you MIGHT want to know your customers a LITTLE more than you've decided to Randy. I'm not happy this guy is getting a fat wallet off a once proud tradition his family has turned into an extended expansion team. This is season #11 and I'm wondering if we're good enough to equal the 2 wins we got in 1999. Gee, who can I thank?????

    - Tom F. (It's not the scapegoats folks - it's the lack of time commitment this owner has made to the Cleveland Browns!)

    @flugel said:

    Folks,

    This post is somewhat in rsponse to those thinking Bernie Kosar is ready to be Ozzie Newsome today. It wasn't THAT long ago where we were feeling BAD for Bernie Kosar because he fell on hard luck that had him claiming bankruptcy right? We all commented that it was too bad because he is seemingly a great guy that was once a great QB; but hard times can confront anybody. Not to be cruel but if he can't even run his own family finances and keep things going in a positive direction there - what makes him ready for an NFL GM job just because he knows Xs and Os?

    We have no evidence Bernie knows the BEST talent evaluators working today or RIGHT coach ready for success. Lerner doesn't either which worries the Hell out of me. All Lerner's decisions are knee jerk that aren't well thought out.

    When I watch all these halftime/postgame shows, I'm getting the sense MOST of the people employed by those shows exercise restrain from what they really think of the Cleveland front office. You better believe when the cameras are off them - they're laughing their collective asses off at the football follies in Cleveland for the 9th season of 11 in body by Lerner. Of course Boomer and the speech impeeded Sharpe run their yaps anyway. Trrent Doofus has too on various shows and for various media sources

    THIS time it would be nice to know the owner's rationale behind his next decision. Whoever he hires WHAT makes him/her the RIGHT President? If Phil REALLY wanted to shake things up and GET my attention - he'd REMIND Ozzie Newsome he was a Cleveland Brown and show him the money. There's your PROVEN guy right there. We keep going for all these Bill Belichick and Ozzie Newsome pupils. Do I need to remind people what Bill Belichick coached like BEFORE Tom Brady was drafted by the NE Patriots? We had 1 playoff season in the 5 years he was in Cleveland.

    Randy Lerner's FIRST decision is that he needs to decide what Pro Sports franchise he wants to own. If he chooses Cleveland, now it's more of an ownership instead of a conflict of interest parted by the Atlantic Ocean if you will. NEXT, he needs to invest MORE time in this franchise to UNDERSTAND what happened with Brady Quinn's evolution instead of telling us he had no knowledge of his progress or readiness to start since the day he was drafted. Folks, the PRODUCT in NE is Tom Brady just like the PRODUCT in Indy is Peyton Manning. Find me an organization that wins more and I'll bet they have a pretty special PRODUCT at QB. If you don't have an understanding of what you have in terms of PRODUCT - that's a pretty shitty business. When an organization drafts what they hope is a franchise QB - you can't allow what happened the last 3 years with 2 guys each other's progress. The OWNER should have been involved every step of the way or he's jamming the fans foilling his wallet with 3 years of QB controversy. Even worse, what DECENT free agents are gonna want Cleveland to be their next home and we've pretty much scared away any future Head Coaches with the right mind.

    Speaking of PRODUCT, shouldn't you know a little something about Brady Quinn when there's been countless jerseys with the #10 purchased by your faithful customers? That being the case, you MIGHT want to know your customers a LITTLE more than you've decided to Randy. I'm not happy this guy is getting a fat wallet off a once proud tradition his family has turned into an extended expansion team. This is season #11 and I'm wondering if we're good enough to equal the 2 wins we got in 1999. Gee, who can I thank?????

    - Tom F. (It's not the scapegoats folks - it's the lack of time commitment this owner has made to the Cleveland Browns!)

    First of all, I'm all for Kosar being named President of the Browns. We're talking about a guy who is intelligent enough to manipulate the NFL to his advantage out of college. The perception you have of him is a little screwed up, in my opinion. He didn't attempt to start a business, then fail miserably. He's had several businesses, operating since he was playing in the NFL. This crappy economy has affected everyone. Are you trying to tell me that all these companies and individuals who are struggling in today's economy, are screwed because they aren't smart enough to manage their own finances? Kosar is not just an x's and o's guy. He knows the game inside and out. Also....Lerner can only make decisions based on his research. There is no guarantee, or exact formula that will transform this organization overnight. The guy has tried and failed numerous times. That's just the way it worked out. He wasn't intentionally trying to put the organization in this pitiful state. He wasn't cheap with players or coaches. He just made decisions based on the information he had....a series of miscalculations. Maybe he will turn to Kosar to run the organization, and things will get worse.....I don't know. I just can't think of a better way to try and repair the damage to this franchise. Maybe you're thinking....Parcells.....Shanahan....Cowher. Well, that's fine, but the only way one of them are coming here, is if they have complete control. That never seems to work, anywhere....and it scares the Hell out of me.

  • As long as lerner makes the decision im very very confident it will be the wrong one...lerner needs to either devote to the club and be a dedicated owner or sell half the team to someone who would be...simply put..its all on randolph lerner folks...

    And owning an nfl franchise is easy for a rich guy.. but owning a winning nfl franchise cannot be done with money alone...it requires a special love and dedication to the team ,the sport and the fans...randy is trying once again to buy himself out of this mess he created and once again it will backfire without he himself overseeing everything...and since he doesnt even know whats going on with the QB mess i think we can all see randy cant handle it alone...he needs to get himself a partner that loves the browns will rebuild the culture and run the team for randy anything less will not suffice...so embrace for more heartbreak fans of the cursed club..

  • @lodilobo said:

    First of all, I'm all for Kosar being named President of the Browns. We're talking about a guy who is intelligent enough to manipulate the NFL to his advantage out of college.

    So you've concluded that makes him NFL president material? God bless ya! You didn't read a thing I wrote. You just told me who your hometown hero was. We're talking about 2 different things here.

    - Tom F.

    @flugel said:

    So you've concluded that makes him NFL president material? God bless ya! You didn't read a thing I wrote. You just told me who your hometown hero was. We're talking about 2 different things here.

    - Tom F.

    Sorry....that short post was due to my inability to type without hitting a random key that somehow posted that incomplete post.

  • First, I don't think it a conflict Lerner owns a football team in England. Owners that take a active role in their team usually have a crappy team.

    It is simply a investment of money in something he has a interest. At least at this point it doesn't appear his investment in England is limiting his ability to bankroll his operation in Cleveland.

    As for Bernie..he isn't a GM. I think he is good doing exactly what he is doing at this point.

    As for a President, we really need to keep our eyes open as candidates emerge.

    McKay is a guy I would consider. He did a good job in Tampa and I thought he did a good job in Atlanta.

  • Sometimes personal bankruptcy is the SMART decision to make. I'm not gong to hold that against Bernie. Seriously, bankruptcy is a guaranteed right for US citizens. It is the creidt empire that has attached the bad stigma to it.

    Walt Disney filed.

    Ulysess S. Grant was a partjer in a financial firm that went bankrupt.

    Milton S. Hershey filed.

    Abraham Lincoln filed.

    William McKinley cosigned for a loan for a friend who then went bankrupt. He was in debt 130 grand.

    Thomas Paine of Common Sense fame went bankrupt.

    Mark Twain filed.

    Of Course Donald Trump

    P.T. Barnum

    Henry John Heinz

    Henry Ford

  • First, I don't think it a conflict Lerner owns a football team in England. Owners that take a active role in their team usually have a crappy team.

    It is simply a investment of money in something he has a interest. At least at this point it doesn't appear his investment in England is limiting his ability to bankroll his operation in Cleveland.

    As for Bernie..he isn't a GM. I think he is good doing exactly what he is doing at this point.

    As for a President, we really need to keep our eyes open as candidates emerge.

    McKay is a guy I would consider. He did a good job in Tampa and I thought he did a good job in Atlanta.

    @ballpeen said:

    McKay is a guy I would consider. He did a good job in Tampa and I thought he did a good job in Atlanta.

    Maybe what we really need is a coach with a sense of humor:

    Vintage John McKay

    One of the highlights of the 1976 season though were the quotes from John McKay. Not just content with being a good coach, McKay was at his hilarious best throughout the 14-game losing streak in that expansion season and beyond.

    “It bothers me that they (the national media) have picked us to be the worst team in football. Because what they are doing now is challenging your physical and your mental capacity and my ability to coach you. Now, this hurts me. Second worst team, I could stand it. But not the worst team.”

    “We’ve broken down the expansion teams and they’ve averaged winning 2.7 games their first year, which to me is rather difficult. I figured out the 2, but the .7 has got me wondering what the hell is going on.”

    When he heard that one of the kickers during training camp, Pete Rajecki, had mentioned he was nervous kicking in front of his coach, McKay asked that the press “Tell Mr. Rajecki that I plan to attend all the games.”

    "Kickers are like horse manure. They're all over the place."

    "We didn't tackle well today but we made up for it by not blocking."

    "Intensity is a lot of guys that run fast."

    "Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."

    On his team's blocking strategy: "Hold when you're at home and don't hold when you're on the road."

    "If you have everyone back from a team that lost ten games, experience isn't too important."

    On how coaching an expansion team is a religious experience: "You do a lot of praying, but most of the time the answer is 'no.' "

    “I’ll probably take a little time off and go hide somewhere. We will be back. Maybe not this century, but we will be back and we will be a better football team.”

    On the Buccaneers poor special-teams play, “They were absolutely horrible and that’s the best thing I can say. Besides that they were bad. These people are not poorly paid you know.”

    On the play of Joe Namath in the Jets 34-0 victory over Tampa Bay, “Namath is still Namath, but I must say that our guys were nice to him. I noticed when they knocked him down, they helped him to his feet. That was gentlemanly. I thought one stood around long enough to get his autograph.”

    On how badly the Bucs looked in losing to the Steelers 42-0, “There were times I felt like leaving the stadium and hitchhiking home.”

    "If a contest had ninety-seven prizes, the ninety-eighth would be a trip to Green Bay."

    On Tampa Bay ending its 26-game losing streak: "Three or four plane crashes and we're in the playoffs."

  • @ballpeen said:

    McKay is a guy I would consider. He did a good job in Tampa and I thought he did a good job in Atlanta.

    Maybe what we really need is a coach with a sense of humor:

    Vintage John McKay

    One of the highlights of the 1976 season though were the quotes from John McKay. Not just content with being a good coach, McKay was at his hilarious best throughout the 14-game losing streak in that expansion season and beyond.

    “It bothers me that they (the national media) have picked us to be the worst team in football. Because what they are doing now is challenging your physical and your mental capacity and my ability to coach you. Now, this hurts me. Second worst team, I could stand it. But not the worst team.”

    “We’ve broken down the expansion teams and they’ve averaged winning 2.7 games their first year, which to me is rather difficult. I figured out the 2, but the .7 has got me wondering what the hell is going on.”

    When he heard that one of the kickers during training camp, Pete Rajecki, had mentioned he was nervous kicking in front of his coach, McKay asked that the press “Tell Mr. Rajecki that I plan to attend all the games.”

    "Kickers are like horse manure. They're all over the place."

    "We didn't tackle well today but we made up for it by not blocking."

    "Intensity is a lot of guys that run fast."

    "Emotion is highly overrated in football. My wife Corky is emotional as hell but can't play football worth a damn."

    On his team's blocking strategy: "Hold when you're at home and don't hold when you're on the road."

    "If you have everyone back from a team that lost ten games, experience isn't too important."

    On how coaching an expansion team is a religious experience: "You do a lot of praying, but most of the time the answer is 'no.' "

    “I’ll probably take a little time off and go hide somewhere. We will be back. Maybe not this century, but we will be back and we will be a better football team.”

    On the Buccaneers poor special-teams play, “They were absolutely horrible and that’s the best thing I can say. Besides that they were bad. These people are not poorly paid you know.”

    On the play of Joe Namath in the Jets 34-0 victory over Tampa Bay, “Namath is still Namath, but I must say that our guys were nice to him. I noticed when they knocked him down, they helped him to his feet. That was gentlemanly. I thought one stood around long enough to get his autograph.”

    On how badly the Bucs looked in losing to the Steelers 42-0, “There were times I felt like leaving the stadium and hitchhiking home.”

    "If a contest had ninety-seven prizes, the ninety-eighth would be a trip to Green Bay."

    On Tampa Bay ending its 26-game losing streak: "Three or four plane crashes and we're in the playoffs."

    @kshutchins said:

    Maybe what we really need is a coach with a sense of humor:

    how about a coach that knows two things about football first? baby steps.

  • @kshutchins said:

    Maybe what we really need is a coach with a sense of humor:

    how about a coach that knows two things about football first? baby steps.

    @clevelandfanforlife said:

    how about a coach that knows two things about football first? baby steps.

    In the interim, some humor wouldn't hurt.

  • Asked after one horrid performance what he thought of his offense's execution, McKay said, “I'm all for it.”

  • Asked after one horrid performance what he thought of his offense's execution, McKay said, “I'm all for it.”

    @booker said:

    Asked after one horrid performance what he thought of his offense's execution, McKay said, “I'm all for it.”

    lol the best one yet 😆

  • We all learn from our own mistakes. Give the man a chance.

  • Browns new coach in 2010 will be the highest paid in the NFL.

    @flipflop said:

    Browns new coach in 2010 will be the highest paid in the NFL.

    As long as his last name is Cowher I agree with that.

  • Sometimes personal bankruptcy is the SMART decision to make. I'm not gong to hold that against Bernie. Seriously, bankruptcy is a guaranteed right for US citizens. It is the creidt empire that has attached the bad stigma to it.

    Walt Disney filed.

    Ulysess S. Grant was a partjer in a financial firm that went bankrupt.

    Milton S. Hershey filed.

    Abraham Lincoln filed.

    William McKinley cosigned for a loan for a friend who then went bankrupt. He was in debt 130 grand.

    Thomas Paine of Common Sense fame went bankrupt.

    Mark Twain filed.

    Of Course Donald Trump

    P.T. Barnum

    Henry John Heinz

    Henry Ford

    @pumpkin-eater said:

    Sometimes personal bankruptcy is the SMART decision to make. I'm not gong to hold that against Bernie. Seriously, bankruptcy is a guaranteed right for US citizens. It is the creidt empire that has attached the bad stigma to it.

    Walt Disney filed.

    Ulysess S. Grant was a partjer in a financial firm that went bankrupt.

    Milton S. Hershey filed.

    Abraham Lincoln filed.

    William McKinley cosigned for a loan for a friend who then went bankrupt. He was in debt 130 grand.

    Thomas Paine of Common Sense fame went bankrupt.

    Mark Twain filed.

    Of Course Donald Trump

    P.T. Barnum

    Henry John Heinz

    Henry Ford

    Nice list! Seriously. Great grasp of history.

    At least you didn't get them here. People like Meatloaf, LaToya Jackson, etc.

  • How about Tony Dungy, I dont know if he's interested in coming back at all but I know he's interested in changing young peoples lives. If he can turn this team around he'll change mine and a million others.

    If lerner's going to through boat loads of money at someone, why not this guy.

    Im not giving up on Mangini but if lerner does or just wants to hire a FO guy, Dungy would be my first choice

  • Im not giving up on Eric just yet. Its his first year. give him 1 full off season to get some better players in here

  • In regards to BK and his businesses failing, I know a man who filed bankruptcy 3 times before he ever made it as a millionaire.

    Its great to see people who can fail forward.

  • Personally,I would prefer a "hands off" owner & Lerner has mostly been that, BUT he has NOT hired a club President with a solid FOOTBALL background. Lerner is not a football guy & should have had someone in place long ago to do the hiring of football people to guide the Team, ie GM, Head Coach, etc. Lerner should stay completely away from that process. Bernie may be that guy & he may not, but Lerner is NOT that guy & he needs to realize that. Get someone to RUN the team, get help & advice regarding the hiring & trust that person to "captain the ship".

    Mike