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Zombo said:
We'll never get past the Steelers and Ravens until we build a defensive team that can match theirs.Right now, depending who's available, I'd draft running back, defense, defense, defense with my first four picks.
QB would be one of the guys on the roster and/or a decent veteran free agent for the next season.
Zombo
I tend to agree, Zombo, but it hurts like heck that the Saints' DEFENSE has scored more TDs this year than has the Browns OFFENSE.
A veteran QB from another team seems like a good option while the rest of the team gets built. Do I dare suggest Brady Quinn as an alternative to the Veteran QB? The rest of the season should help clarify this cloudy situation.
I believe DA is dead meat and his days in Cleveland are, or should be, over.
PS I wish they signed Chambers for WR.
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my biggest beef is if we have aa tope five pick....I think #2 overall...the only positions that are worth that kind of $ is LT(check), DE(4-3) pass rusher and a QB... If we sit at #2 I don't think I can justify not taking a QB when we are so pathetic on O....maybe things change on our team....if they don't change at the most important position in all of sports...we have to get a new Qb..again JMHO.
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Zombo said:
We'll never get past the Steelers and Ravens until we build a defensive team that can match theirs.Right now, depending who's available, I'd draft running back, defense, defense, defense with my first four picks.
QB would be one of the guys on the roster and/or a decent veteran free agent for the next season.
Zombo
We'll never get past the steelers and Ravens until we build an offensive team that can match theirs...
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A dect O would help our D out tremendously but having said that and considering we are a lock for top 5 in the draft with the worst Safeties in the league I say you get the next Ed Reed, Eric Berry from TN then take the best available skill positions and linemen on the board to help the O with most of the rest of the draft
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Zombo said:
Compare where the Ravens and Steelers rank in offense compared to defense every year and then explain to me how they stay on top.Yes, the offense must drastically improve.
But if we are going to contend for division titles we have to be on par with those teams defensively.
I don't even see how you can deny that. Look at the Bengals, they have been a good offensive team for some time, lots of weapons, but they have never gotten past both Pittsburgh and Baltimore because they are superior defensive teams.
If you want numbers I'll give you numbers. But I think you just being a smart ass. You remind me a lot of the guys who left.
Zombo
i was being a smart ass...i think defense is a hell of a lot easier to fix/be competetive than trying to fix THIS offensive offense. Yes defense wins championships...but offenses win games....we can't win games if we can't score a TD or get a freakin first downs...we have just been through a spinal injury and now must learn how to walk again...Skill positions #1
Go ahead and get rid of all dissenting views to yours, stalin....My point is as valid if not more. i simply added the word offense to your defense...and it is the exact same point!
and...we are dead last in nfl in scoring...
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Would you rather have a good defense and continue to not be able to score a touchdown, or do you want to finally draft high round offensive skill positions to build from I.E QB, RB, WR, TE, and rt with first 5 picks? Tempting to draft defense, but I think we have to bite the bullett and go Offense....if you can't score or get 1st downs...we 'll never be any good. we aren't going to win squat next year so draft Offensive skill positions to learn for a year then build the Defense...JMHO
Would you rather have a good defense and continue to not be able to score a touchdown, or do you want to finally draft high round offensive skill positions to build from I.E QB, RB, WR, TE, and rt with first 5 picks? Tempting to draft defense, but I think we have to bite the bullett and go Offense....if you can't score or get 1st downs...we 'll never be any good. we aren't going to win squat next year so draft Offensive skill positions to learn for a year then build the Defense...JMHO
The first pick will be a QB. No question in my mind.
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I would love for us to grab a good vet wr with solid hands.
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I guess it's six of one, half a dozen of the other.
Scoring 30 does you no good if you give up 40, and holding teams to 20 does you no good if you score 10.
In the end, I suppose if i had to pick, I would go D since you at least keep it close, which equates to a chance.
i also think D is a little more consistent than O. Not as many things to screw up the plan.
It is easier for a O to have a off day.
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depends on who is left on the board, if eric berry is gone and the Suh and the other stud Dline man is gone , then we draft the best talent in the offense. the way i see it, we have numbers, we need the talent. And players like Berry dont just drop by in our lap if the projections are to be believed.
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I guess it's six of one, half a dozen of the other.
Scoring 30 does you no good if you give up 40, and holding teams to 20 does you no good if you score 10.
In the end, I suppose if i had to pick, I would go D since you at least keep it close, which equates to a chance.
i also think D is a little more consistent than O. Not as many things to screw up the plan.
It is easier for a O to have a off day.
I guess it's six of one, half a dozen of the other.
Scoring 30 does you no good if you give up 40, and holding teams to 20 does you no good if you score 10.
In the end, I suppose if i had to pick, I would go D since you at least keep it close, which equates to a chance.
i also think D is a little more consistent than O. Not as many things to screw up the plan.
It is easier for a O to have a off day.
The Bears scored 30 on us and I thought the D played great. If we had any semblence of an offense they dont score 14 points.
Also if you have a ball control offense you can limit the possesions the other team gets. I think offense is more important because it puts points on the board and keeps the other teams offense off the field. Defenses can go 3 and out all day but if your offense is going 3 and out to that does nothing for you
1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico -
Browns D has scored more touchdowns this season thus far than the offense.
I vote Veteran QB (trade 2 1st rounders if you have to) I'd trade any 2 of our 1st round selections the past 10 years to get Drew Brees type.
possibly add Troy Smith
Have the Browns had a pro quarterback since Kosar?
free agent RB ..Chester Taylor/Lendale White or both.
Antonio Bryant type vet all day everyday.
rest of the draft defense.............we want guys with exceptional talent in school but character issues.
Channel that anger and rip his friggin head off
Mangina GONE.
Bernie Kosar / Jon Gruden / Marty Schottenheimer 2010.
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I'd be leaning towards the two impact players, Suh or Barry. both happen to be on defense, --- depending where we pick, I'd be leaning that way.
The second round, I'd be looking at RT if he is a "DOMINATE RT", if not, I'd consider TE if an impact TE is available. If not BPA.
I think the defense is not far from being real good.
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IF we can chuck out 2 out of 3 of our QB's then perhaps a lower round QB. Is this draft laden with QB's or is it just a myth ?
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Needs to be a clear cut stud to take offense in the top 5
I like Mallet,if he comes out,Locker...top 10,not top 5
Ingram from bama, McKnight maybe
My honest opinion...Mangini trades down
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Needs to be a clear cut stud to take offense in the top 5
I like Mallet,if he comes out,Locker...top 10,not top 5
Ingram from bama, McKnight maybe
My honest opinion...Mangini trades down
Needs to be a clear cut stud to take offense in the top 5
I like Mallet,if he comes out,Locker...top 10,not top 5
Ingram from bama, McKnight maybe
My honest opinion...Mangini trades down
TRADE DOWN ? DID YOU SAY TRADE DOWN ?
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Needs to be a clear cut stud to take offense in the top 5
I like Mallet,if he comes out,Locker...top 10,not top 5
Ingram from bama, McKnight maybe
My honest opinion...Mangini trades down
TRADE DOWN ? DID YOU SAY TRADE DOWN ?
TRADE DOWN ? DID YOU SAY TRADE DOWN ?
so we can have 52 Brian Robiskies
Vanilla still tastes like vanilla no matter how you serve it.
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TRADE DOWN ? DID YOU SAY TRADE DOWN ?
so we can have 52 Brian Robiskies
Vanilla still tastes like vanilla no matter how you serve it.
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I guess it's six of one, half a dozen of the other.
Scoring 30 does you no good if you give up 40, and holding teams to 20 does you no good if you score 10.
In the end, I suppose if i had to pick, I would go D since you at least keep it close, which equates to a chance.
i also think D is a little more consistent than O. Not as many things to screw up the plan.
It is easier for a O to have a off day.
I guess it's six of one, half a dozen of the other.
Scoring 30 does you no good if you give up 40, and holding teams to 20 does you no good if you score 10.
In the end, I suppose if i had to pick, I would go D since you at least keep it close, which equates to a chance.
i also think D is a little more consistent than O. Not as many things to screw up the plan.
It is easier for a O to have a off day.
I don't think our D is to terrible. They can't do everything and when the offense fumbles every other play or Anderson throws a interception what do you want the D to do?
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