Boehner: GOP offering the right health care ideas

[Westside Steve]

@heckofajobbrownie said:

Yes, the Republicans are offering the right health care ideas.

Their plan, to no one's surprise, does basically nothing for the uninsured:

"An analysis by the Congressional Budget Office has found that the Republicans' proposed healthcare overhaul would cover just 3 million Americans by 2019, and leave 52 million Americans uninsured -- effectively covering just 5 percent of those who would otherwise be uninsured.

That means 95 percent of those who are uninsured will still be without coverage in 2019."

But please, continue lecturing about the need for tort reform and the ability to buy policies across state lines. Vital ideas. Just vital.

Fair enough Heck.

So answer us please.

So how many of the 30 million (revised for Obamas speech to eliminate the illegals) will be covered?

And by what? Public option? Private company?

We assume that the public option won't be free correct?

If not then about how much would the average guy pay?

What price would be too high (in your opinion) for those who claim they can't afford premiums?

Lets say they make north of 36K, the average in Ohio I think.

$100 a month? $300 a month? $500?

For those who don't get it from work how much will they pay?

Will it be more or less than the non participation tax? (is that around $1700 for the individual?)

If it's more will they be obligated to buy in?

How much do you expect premiums for responsible workers to rise when every illness is covered?

How much worse will Medicare treatment be when $500 billion is slashed?

Today a decent secondary plan is over $400.

And how much more insane will the trial lawyers profits be when many diagnostic procedures are eliminated in a cost cutting spree?

I realize you want this bill passed, no matter what's in it, but since you sneer at everyone else how about you provide some insight from your private stash?

WSS

[Chicopee John]

@westside-steve said:

Fair enough Heck.

So answer us please.

So how many of the 30 million (revised for Obamas speech to eliminate the illegals) will be covered?

And by what? Public option? Private company?

We assume that the public option won't be free correct?

If not then about how much would the average guy pay?

What price would be too high (in your opinion) for those who claim they can't afford premiums?

Lets say they make north of 36K, the average in Ohio I think.

$100 a month? $300 a month? $500?

For those who don't get it from work how much will they pay?

Will it be more or less than the non participation tax? (is that around $1700 for the individual?)

If it's more will they be obligated to buy in?

How much do you expect premiums for responsible workers to rise when every illness is covered?

How much worse will Medicare treatment be when $500 billion is slashed?

Today a decent secondary plan is over $400.

And how much more insane will the trial lawyers profits be when many diagnostic procedures are eliminated in a cost cutting spree?

I realize you want this bill passed, no matter what's in it, but since you sneer at everyone else how about you provide some insight from your private stash?

WSS

I forget the number right now, but I found it ironic that a fair amount of the cost is supposed to be mitigated by the penalty money from people who do not obtain insurance.

So...........is the idea to insure ALL of them, or is it really to insure PART of them, with the balance being used to fund part of the costs. And then, what happens when THEY get sick? No insurance, no aid???

[Mr. T]

@chicopee-john said:

I forget the number right now, but I found it ironic that a fair amount of the cost is supposed to be mitigated by the penalty money from people who do not obtain insurance.

So...........is the idea to insure ALL of them, or is it really to insure PART of them, with the balance being used to fund part of the costs. And then, what happens when THEY get sick? No insurance, no aid???

Is it 45% to be raised by fines?

[Westside Steve]

@chicopee-john said:

I forget the number right now, but I found it ironic that a fair amount of the cost is supposed to be mitigated by the penalty money from people who do not obtain insurance.

So...........is the idea to insure ALL of them, or is it really to insure PART of them, with the balance being used to fund part of the costs. And then, what happens when THEY get sick? No insurance, no aid???

Yep.

So if coverage would cost, say, $175 a month the penalty is cheaper.

And a good small to medium business plan (I hear) should be in the ballpark of $300.

I prefer to force those people to spend the 1700 on a catastrophic plan.

That eliminates the tears being shed over those being bankrupted by medical bills.

And the huge costs of their unpaid treatment.

WSS

[calfoxwc]

What I find incredible, is that even Peelosi's 1900 page plan does nothing to get insurance to ALL those currently don't have it,

and millions of Americans who do have it, will LOSE it,

and that plan does NOTHING to solve the restrictions of states to only buy insurance from their own state.

Say, I thought they wanted competition. NO, THEY DON'T.

The new plan provides required funding for abortion on demand, and ELIMINATES

current med insurance providers in the future.

Well, 45% of the doctors say they will quit.

The bill won't get passed in anywhere near it's current state. It's a freakin disaster of dangerous proportions.

Even the blue dog Dems are rejecting it flat out. Obamao and Peelosi and co. are splitting our country into pieces,

but I worry most about this treaty that the UN is getting ready. If Obamao signs it, our rights via our Constitution/Bill of Rights

will allegedly be superceded by an international climate court.

I think I'll buy two handguns. Doggone gunsmith, young guy, was talking to me about buying a .45 instead of a 9mm. I don't know....

that seems a bit overkill, pun intended...

[Kosar_For_President]

Boehner's a real dick head.

[Mr. T]

@kosar_for_president said:

Boehner's a real dick head.

Someone needs to be a dickhead to all of these spineless pussies who are sucking the kneecaps of obammy.

So this makes Boehner a man among spineless men.

[Kosar_For_President]

@mr.-t said:

Someone needs to be a dickhead to all of these spineless pussies who are sucking the kneecaps of obammy.

So this makes Boehner a man among spineless men.

I was joking. Boe - ner is a dick head. Boe - ner is a stand up guy. Calm down man (spoken like Jay Petermen)

[Westside Steve]

@kosar_for_president said:

I was joking. Boe - ner is a dick head. Boe - ner is a stand up guy. Calm down man (spoken like Jay Petermen)

Ahh Didn'rt get the joke due to the pronunciation.

WSS

[Mr. T]

@kosar_for_president said:

I was joking. Boe - ner is a dick head. Boe - ner is a stand up guy. Calm down man (spoken like Jay Petermen)

You got me on that one.

[calfoxwc]

I didn't get it either - cleverly disguised too well. Nice job.

...wish Heck was capable of having any kind of intellgent sense of humor.

My God, is he profoundly boring. do they have personality upgrades?