The Worst Coaching Hire Ever?

[Kosar_For_President]

@dj_illness said:

all you guys that are anti-mangini's building process

A- what do you suggest (please something more intelligent and involved than "start Quinn")

B- what would you do in his position?

it's easy to throw stones. got anything constructive? any ideas of your own?

I mentioned it before. They need a GM with some balls. One who played the game. Mangini needs to focus on coaching. Look at the mistakes we made on the field. Look at the players quitting on him. That is 100% on Mangini, he can't blame anyone else for that this time.

[Mr. T]

Im still giving mangini the rest of the season, but his mid term grade is incomplete. I cant even give him a grade while he still shows signs that he doesn't have any control over this team.

Usually by now most teams take on the same attitude and persona of their head coach. And if that is the case we are in trouble with Mangini.

[dj_illness]

@mr.-t said:

Im still giving mangini the rest of the season, but his mid term grade is incomplete. I cant even give him a grade while he still shows signs that he doesn't have any control over this team.

Usually by now most teams take on the same attitude and persona of their head coach. And if that is the case we are in trouble with Mangini.

we're vanilla, vague and passive.

i'd say we've done a great job of emulating the coach.

[ClevelandFanForLife]

@dj_illness said:

all you guys that are anti-mangini's building process

A- what do you suggest (please something more intelligent and involved than "start Quinn")

B- what would you do in his position?

it's easy to throw stones. got anything constructive? any ideas of your own?

good post. i would start by explaining what the building process was exactly because right now it looks like this: get rid of play makers, bring in has-beens and never-weres, draft a bunch a rookies and never play them so they can't get experience and make sure that all the players who are on this team hate me. also it would be nice to admit that i think nothing of team chemistry unless my idea of chemistry was have the players come together by sharing one idea: i am an idiot and everyone hates me.

then i would say why i went against my word and benched brady after saying that i would stick with my decision after making it. i would then explain what i was thinking when i left da in after his repeated failures at qb.

i would admit that i took too much control of the team and part of the blame is certainly on me, but not all of it. kokinas certainly did have some say, but not a whole lot. it's not my fault that lerner is a moron who gave me so much power to begin with also.

unfortunately none of this has happened or will happen. mangini is too pompous to admit any of this let alone take blame for something. he would be a great politician.

[dj_illness]

you forgot to mention that he's fat and boring.

and did he bring on Daboll?

[ClevelandFanForLife]

@dj_illness said:

you forgot to mention that he's fat and boring.

and did he bring on Daboll?

wow, how could i forgot that. how could i be so senseless?

[dj_illness]

personally, i think the OC needs canned before next season.

[ClevelandFanForLife]

@dj_illness said:

personally, i think the OC needs canned before next season.

how about next hour?

[dj_illness]

i'd be okay with that. he looks and calls plays like a hobbit.

[Gips]

Or it could be mangini does almost everything wrong and has created justified fanboles from frustrated sickened fans that have to watch mangini and dabolle wreck our team in an unethical and disturbing manner...such as mishandling players and angering the top agents in the business..or keeping daboll around because he is a long time friend when in fact the guy lacks way to much skill and creativity for the job...so lets hug DA last week and then blame him and bench him with a cold shoulder when in fact its dabolls offense that isnt suited for a dawg or their fans..yeah thats one helluva coaching staff there when DA shouldnt even be on the field to begin with...the players gotta love these guys right?

Wrong they just arent going to be honest about it...yet...

We need many justified faboles...instead of everyday take it in the ass and love it fanboys....

[Pumpkin Eater]

@clevelandfanforlife said:

mangini drafts well? dabrickishaw ferguson (the best name ever by the way), vernon gholston, ricky mcintosh, kellen clemens, and jon beason? yeah, those guys are studs.

wtf are you talking about? Jon Beason was drafted by Carolina and is actually quite a good player.

[Pumpkin Eater]

@clevelandfanforlife said:

good post. i would start by explaining what the building process was exactly because right now it looks like this: get rid of play makers, bring in has-beens and never-weres, draft a bunch a rookies and never play them so they can't get experience and make sure that all the players who are on this team hate me. also it would be nice to admit that i think nothing of team chemistry unless my idea of chemistry was have the players come together by sharing one idea: i am an idiot and everyone hates me.

then i would say why i went against my word and benched brady after saying that i would stick with my decision after making it. i would then explain what i was thinking when i left da in after his repeated failures at qb.

i would admit that i took too much control of the team and part of the blame is certainly on me, but not all of it. kokinas certainly did have some say, but not a whole lot. it's not my fault that lerner is a moron who gave me so much power to begin with also.

unfortunately none of this has happened or will happen. mangini is too pompous to admit any of this let alone take blame for something. he would be a great politician.

getting rid of Dropsy Edwards was a great deal. He was a total primadonna who couldn't even catch the ball. New York isn't exactly doing so well since they've traded for him, are they? And KW, what has he done in Tampa? Playmakers actually have to make plays to be considered such.

[s-eohiodawg]

@mr.-t said:

Worst Coaches ever in Cleveland?

Bitch Davis in my book.

Bud Carson without a doubt

[s-eohiodawg]

@clevelandfanforlife said:

how about next hour?

Did anyone see him in the videon on the sidelines?

Daboll looked like he was going to shit his pants.

[Tim Couch Pulls Out]

@clevelandfanforlife said:

mangini drafts well? dabrickishaw ferguson (the best name ever by the way), vernon gholston, ricky mcintosh, kellen clemens, and jon beason? yeah, those guys are studs.

What about Dustin Keller, Nick Mangold, Darrelle Revis, Brad Smith,and Little Leon? You can't say they haven't been beneficial to the team. Vernon hasn't been terrible, he just took some time. And look at Mark Sanchez, Mangini is so great at drafting players, he drafts the Jets quality players even when he's not employed by them.

And what about Jon Beason? He's in Carolina.

[AFC Earl]

Mangini just does not seem to have it - no plan. The Browns just do not seem to have an identity.

AFC Earl

AFC North Talk

[Earl34]

@dj_illness said:

you forgot to mention that he's fat and boring.

This is has exactly what to do with coaching? Andy Reid is fat. He's boring. Holmgren is fat. He's boring too. Are your lives so devoid of meaning and entertainment that you need your coaches to be entertaining? Rex Ryan is entertaining. To the tune of a .500 record because he's too busy giving pithy sound bites. His dad was just hysterical and he coached the Eagles to a ton of championships....

[Earl34]

@kosar_for_president said:

Lerner needs to let Mangini finish the season, be a man, admit he was wrong and start over. Walk 50 million in unmarked bills down to North Carolina and set it on Cowher's door step.

Bill.....Cowher...in...Cleveland...will... NEVER... happen.

First, Bill Cowher doesn't need 50 million dollars

Second, Bill Cowher doesn't want to come back and work in a dysfunctional organization with an idiot for an owner

Third, Bill Cowher is NEVER going to a team in the same division as the Steelers. He won't compete against the Rooneys or his own legacy. He won't risk the adoration of legions of Steeler fans that adore him

Fourth, Bill Cowher doesn't need to come to Cleveland if a job opportunity opens up in an NFC town closer to home (Carolina or Washington).

Now speaking of the legacy he built in Pittsburgh. Hmmm. Let's see. Did his owner fire him when he fooled around with Kordell Stewart as his QB? Did they can him for the first how many years before he really won anything? No.

As long as the Cleveland Browns keep changing horses midstream, they'll never get across. I am not here to say that Lerner won't fire Mangini at season's end if the results dictate it....but you can't keep blowing it up and expect it to get any better.

[Pumpkin Eater]

Bill Cowher = System coach.

like a System QB.

I wish Browns fans would stop polishing his knob.

[Tim Couch Pulls Out]

@earl34 said:

Now speaking of the legacy he built in Pittsburgh. Hmmm. Let's see. Did his owner fire him when he fooled around with Kordell Stewart as his QB? Did they can him for the first how many years before he really won anything? No.

As long as the Cleveland Browns keep changing horses midstream, they'll never get across. I am not here to say that Lerner won't fire Mangini at season's end if the results dictate it....but you can't keep blowing it up and expect it to get any better.

Cowher led the Steelers to the playoffs in his first six years as their head coach. He started winning as soon as he got there. Granted, he had a higher caliber of player than Mangini was blessed with in his first year. I do agree with you about the fact that we can't keep changing head coaches and expect to win. Consistency is something that hasn't been present in Cleveland for years, and that's why we always lose. In fact, the only consistency we have had since coming back to the NFL are our consistent losing seasons. We need to stick with things and ride them out. Let's stop panicking and second guessing ourselves.