The Worst Coaching Hire Ever?
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you forgot to mention that he's fat and boring.
and did he bring on Daboll?
you forgot to mention that he's fat and boring.
This is has exactly what to do with coaching? Andy Reid is fat. He's boring. Holmgren is fat. He's boring too. Are your lives so devoid of meaning and entertainment that you need your coaches to be entertaining? Rex Ryan is entertaining. To the tune of a .500 record because he's too busy giving pithy sound bites. His dad was just hysterical and he coached the Eagles to a ton of championships....
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Mangini or KoK? ro both?
but yes... that is a fairly darn good point.
but what can we do about it now?
Lerner needs to let Mangini finish the season, be a man, admit he was wrong and start over. Walk 50 million in unmarked bills down to North Carolina and set it on Cowher's door step.
Lerner needs to let Mangini finish the season, be a man, admit he was wrong and start over. Walk 50 million in unmarked bills down to North Carolina and set it on Cowher's door step.
Bill.....Cowher...in...Cleveland...will... NEVER... happen.
First, Bill Cowher doesn't need 50 million dollars
Second, Bill Cowher doesn't want to come back and work in a dysfunctional organization with an idiot for an owner
Third, Bill Cowher is NEVER going to a team in the same division as the Steelers. He won't compete against the Rooneys or his own legacy. He won't risk the adoration of legions of Steeler fans that adore him
Fourth, Bill Cowher doesn't need to come to Cleveland if a job opportunity opens up in an NFC town closer to home (Carolina or Washington).
Now speaking of the legacy he built in Pittsburgh. Hmmm. Let's see. Did his owner fire him when he fooled around with Kordell Stewart as his QB? Did they can him for the first how many years before he really won anything? No.
As long as the Cleveland Browns keep changing horses midstream, they'll never get across. I am not here to say that Lerner won't fire Mangini at season's end if the results dictate it....but you can't keep blowing it up and expect it to get any better.
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Bill Cowher = System coach.
like a System QB.
I wish Browns fans would stop polishing his knob.
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Lerner needs to let Mangini finish the season, be a man, admit he was wrong and start over. Walk 50 million in unmarked bills down to North Carolina and set it on Cowher's door step.
Bill.....Cowher...in...Cleveland...will... NEVER... happen.
First, Bill Cowher doesn't need 50 million dollars
Second, Bill Cowher doesn't want to come back and work in a dysfunctional organization with an idiot for an owner
Third, Bill Cowher is NEVER going to a team in the same division as the Steelers. He won't compete against the Rooneys or his own legacy. He won't risk the adoration of legions of Steeler fans that adore him
Fourth, Bill Cowher doesn't need to come to Cleveland if a job opportunity opens up in an NFC town closer to home (Carolina or Washington).
Now speaking of the legacy he built in Pittsburgh. Hmmm. Let's see. Did his owner fire him when he fooled around with Kordell Stewart as his QB? Did they can him for the first how many years before he really won anything? No.
As long as the Cleveland Browns keep changing horses midstream, they'll never get across. I am not here to say that Lerner won't fire Mangini at season's end if the results dictate it....but you can't keep blowing it up and expect it to get any better.
Now speaking of the legacy he built in Pittsburgh. Hmmm. Let's see. Did his owner fire him when he fooled around with Kordell Stewart as his QB? Did they can him for the first how many years before he really won anything? No.
As long as the Cleveland Browns keep changing horses midstream, they'll never get across. I am not here to say that Lerner won't fire Mangini at season's end if the results dictate it....but you can't keep blowing it up and expect it to get any better.
Cowher led the Steelers to the playoffs in his first six years as their head coach. He started winning as soon as he got there. Granted, he had a higher caliber of player than Mangini was blessed with in his first year. I do agree with you about the fact that we can't keep changing head coaches and expect to win. Consistency is something that hasn't been present in Cleveland for years, and that's why we always lose. In fact, the only consistency we have had since coming back to the NFL are our consistent losing seasons. We need to stick with things and ride them out. Let's stop panicking and second guessing ourselves.
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Now speaking of the legacy he built in Pittsburgh. Hmmm. Let's see. Did his owner fire him when he fooled around with Kordell Stewart as his QB? Did they can him for the first how many years before he really won anything? No.
As long as the Cleveland Browns keep changing horses midstream, they'll never get across. I am not here to say that Lerner won't fire Mangini at season's end if the results dictate it....but you can't keep blowing it up and expect it to get any better.
Cowher led the Steelers to the playoffs in his first six years as their head coach. He started winning as soon as he got there. Granted, he had a higher caliber of player than Mangini was blessed with in his first year. I do agree with you about the fact that we can't keep changing head coaches and expect to win. Consistency is something that hasn't been present in Cleveland for years, and that's why we always lose. In fact, the only consistency we have had since coming back to the NFL are our consistent losing seasons. We need to stick with things and ride them out. Let's stop panicking and second guessing ourselves.
Cowher led the Steelers to the playoffs in his first six years as their head coach. He started winning as soon as he got there. Granted, he had a higher caliber of player than Mangini was blessed with in his first year. I do agree with you about the fact that we can't keep changing head coaches and expect to win. Consistency is something that hasn't been present in Cleveland for years, and that's why we always lose. In fact, the only consistency we have had since coming back to the NFL are our consistent losing seasons. We need to stick with things and ride them out. Let's stop panicking and second guessing ourselves.
very nice post. +1
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Some things that make me optimistic about Mangini, even half-way into a miserable season:
1. He seems like a smart problem-solver. Once he has the talent, I don't see him losing many games by having the wrong gameplan.
2. He's disciplined (unlike Crennel) without being an asshole (like Butch Davis). I love how few penalties we've committed this year. I'm worried about mistaken assignments on defense explaining some of those huge plays against us. But I have to think that over time Rob Ryan + Mangini is going to give us a strong defense, especially if we draft some playmakers.
3. I like his emphasis on players with character and reasonable intelligence who put football first, players like Cribbs, Wimbley, and Massaquoi. His emphasis on players who can play multiple positions has already proven helpful.
4. In spite of all the drama this season, I think of Mangini as (more or less) even-tempered and an upstanding guy. Yes, it's nice having the fiery Ryan as def coordinator, but that sort of character can quickly become Tom Cable before you know it, and you just don't want that at the helm.
Coach Holmgren: "I made the decision to keep Eric [Mangini] and every day I know I did the right thing." -
I'm a fan of the quintessential hierarchy in football. I believe that's what we're starting to acheive, for the most part.
A defensive coordinator who's fiery and outspoken. A person whose players would run through a brick wall if he asked them to. (check)
An offensive coordinator who really knows and understands defenses, and can pinpoint any defenses exact weakness.
A head coach who is a wizard at gameplanning, is even-keeled and strict in discipline. (check)
A GM who possesses inside information and experience within the league, and can handle the media as well.
An owner with in insane amount of money, who honestly tries to field a great product. (we're halfway there)
Also, a former QB that possesses a vast knowledge of the game that could come in and be a QB coach wouldn't hurt, either. (That means you, Bernie)
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it's not that he's losing, we've had that before. it's how he is losing
Losing the way Redskins, St Louis or Oakland is better
out of 32 teams, da's qb rating is 35
So your a Brady Quinn fan obviously
agents are telling their clients not to sign with us because of mangini.
Thats not true and show me proof..thats what was said in NY but Pace,Fenaca,Jenkins and Favre would differ on that
he is still refusing to announce anything to the media
What would you like him to announce to the media?
and is treating our qb situation like the launch codes to missiles.
Neither QB is playing well,again, so you want to go back to BQ?
he is pissing everyone off and nobody likes playing for him
Please provide quotes from players who don't like playing for him
all of these things are something that cleveland hasn't faced for a very long time
Cleveland has not been good for 10 years before EM
who had no success and shouldn't have been hired
He made the playoffs his first year in NY and would have last year if Brett didn't shit the bed
mangini is a class a jerk
You know him personally to call him a jerk?
nobody should be defending him.
I can defend anyone I wish.. buddy! This is still America,yes?
turned them into a 1-15 or 2-14 team
4-12 is a fact..1 and 15 is not
with an easier schedule
What is the winning % of teams the Browns have played.?.almost 70%..look it up
he is atrocious
Your failure to capitalize the start of sentences is atrocious..but your spelling is quite good!!
I'm figuring your somewhere between 14 and 18 yrs old..I dig the passion
Oh by the way ..OWNED
What a douche bag. Blow Mangini on your own time.
What a douche bag. Blow Mangini on your own time.
See this is the problem I have with Mangini haters....No substance to there arguments, and when someone uses facts they automatically get really pissy....you are all sheep please keep listening to ESPN and stomping your feet its quite entertaining.
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What a douche bag. Blow Mangini on your own time.
See this is the problem I have with Mangini haters....No substance to there arguments, and when someone uses facts they automatically get really pissy....you are all sheep please keep listening to ESPN and stomping your feet its quite entertaining.
Dawgfanforever88 said:
See this is the problem I have with Mangini haters....No substance to there arguments, and when someone uses facts they automatically get really pissy....you are all sheep please keep listening to ESPN and stomping your feet its quite entertaining.Amen.
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I don't think you made up the word"fanblole" today, unless you simultaneously got it published in the urban dictionary.
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Worst Coaches ever in Cleveland?
Nick Skorich. When you shitcan a coach that has an overall winning record AND the entire fanbase is behind you, that is a bad coach. He was. He lost with good talent. Think about that......
Who thinks Mangini has enough talent to be ahead of the Bengals, Ravens or Steelers? If so, who and why?
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Worst Coaches ever in Cleveland?
Nick Skorich. When you shitcan a coach that has an overall winning record AND the entire fanbase is behind you, that is a bad coach. He was. He lost with good talent. Think about that......
Who thinks Mangini has enough talent to be ahead of the Bengals, Ravens or Steelers? If so, who and why?
Nick Skorich. When you shitcan a coach that has an overall winning record AND the entire fanbase is behind you, that is a bad coach. He was. He lost with good talent. Think about that......
Who thinks Mangini has enough talent to be ahead of the Bengals, Ravens or Steelers? If so, who and why?
I think you're missing the point.
There are some who legitimately look at Cleveland and what Mangni has done in terms of his moves... deciding that he didn't need Sanchez at #5 and instead banking on the fact that one of his two QBs would be good enough to lead the team out of thd dolldrums with the other QB serving as a tradeable commodity.
There are some who legiimately think that Cleveland is now without Sanchez, who though an inconisistent rookie, looks to have some good potential, while also noting that Mangini's handling of the QB situation, pledging to give the winner of the competition the time and support needed to succeed, then pulling him after 2 games and DESTROYING the trade value of BOTH Anderson and Quinn, hasn't exactly left the team stronger than when Mangini joined the team.
There are also some who feel that Mangini's leadership skills as a coach are somewhat suspect, mishandling a litany of issues including starting off by needlessly and pointlessly ruffling the feathers of one of the few good players that Cleveland has
There are some who feel that Mangini has established the Browns as the Raiders Central affiliate - with some players reportedly telling their agents that they want to play "anywhere but Cleveland" since noting how badly Mangnini is running the show down there.
And they question the character and intelligence of someone who would have the poor judgement to recommend and hire his best buddy and old roomate Kokinis and then throw HIM under the bus at Game 8
And all thats just the tip of the iceberg
I don't think they're getting overly caught up in comparing personnel to the Steelers and Ravens.
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Nick Skorich. When you shitcan a coach that has an overall winning record AND the entire fanbase is behind you, that is a bad coach. He was. He lost with good talent. Think about that......
Who thinks Mangini has enough talent to be ahead of the Bengals, Ravens or Steelers? If so, who and why?
I think you're missing the point.
There are some who legitimately look at Cleveland and what Mangni has done in terms of his moves... deciding that he didn't need Sanchez at #5 and instead banking on the fact that one of his two QBs would be good enough to lead the team out of thd dolldrums with the other QB serving as a tradeable commodity.
There are some who legiimately think that Cleveland is now without Sanchez, who though an inconisistent rookie, looks to have some good potential, while also noting that Mangini's handling of the QB situation, pledging to give the winner of the competition the time and support needed to succeed, then pulling him after 2 games and DESTROYING the trade value of BOTH Anderson and Quinn, hasn't exactly left the team stronger than when Mangini joined the team.
There are also some who feel that Mangini's leadership skills as a coach are somewhat suspect, mishandling a litany of issues including starting off by needlessly and pointlessly ruffling the feathers of one of the few good players that Cleveland has
There are some who feel that Mangini has established the Browns as the Raiders Central affiliate - with some players reportedly telling their agents that they want to play "anywhere but Cleveland" since noting how badly Mangnini is running the show down there.
And they question the character and intelligence of someone who would have the poor judgement to recommend and hire his best buddy and old roomate Kokinis and then throw HIM under the bus at Game 8
And all thats just the tip of the iceberg
I don't think they're getting overly caught up in comparing personnel to the Steelers and Ravens.
I think you're missing the point.
Joe, i think you're missing the point. You typed alot of words that likely nobody will read. i stopped at the above. Perhaps others will proceed.
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I think you're missing the point.
Joe, i think you're missing the point. You typed alot of words that likely nobody will read. i stopped at the above. Perhaps others will proceed.
Joe, i think you're missing the point. You typed alot of words that likely nobody will read. i stopped at the above. Perhaps others will proceed.
Good to know that the reading comprehension here is so limited... why there must have been almost 100 words there.
I'll make note of that in the future.
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Nick Skorich. When you shitcan a coach that has an overall winning record AND the entire fanbase is behind you, that is a bad coach. He was. He lost with good talent. Think about that......
Who thinks Mangini has enough talent to be ahead of the Bengals, Ravens or Steelers? If so, who and why?
I think you're missing the point.
There are some who legitimately look at Cleveland and what Mangni has done in terms of his moves... deciding that he didn't need Sanchez at #5 and instead banking on the fact that one of his two QBs would be good enough to lead the team out of thd dolldrums with the other QB serving as a tradeable commodity.
There are some who legiimately think that Cleveland is now without Sanchez, who though an inconisistent rookie, looks to have some good potential, while also noting that Mangini's handling of the QB situation, pledging to give the winner of the competition the time and support needed to succeed, then pulling him after 2 games and DESTROYING the trade value of BOTH Anderson and Quinn, hasn't exactly left the team stronger than when Mangini joined the team.
There are also some who feel that Mangini's leadership skills as a coach are somewhat suspect, mishandling a litany of issues including starting off by needlessly and pointlessly ruffling the feathers of one of the few good players that Cleveland has
There are some who feel that Mangini has established the Browns as the Raiders Central affiliate - with some players reportedly telling their agents that they want to play "anywhere but Cleveland" since noting how badly Mangnini is running the show down there.
And they question the character and intelligence of someone who would have the poor judgement to recommend and hire his best buddy and old roomate Kokinis and then throw HIM under the bus at Game 8
And all thats just the tip of the iceberg
I don't think they're getting overly caught up in comparing personnel to the Steelers and Ravens.
I think you're missing the point.
There are some who legitimately look at Cleveland and what Mangni has done in terms of his moves... deciding that he didn't need Sanchez at #5 and instead banking on the fact that one of his two QBs would be good enough to lead the team out of thd dolldrums with the other QB serving as a tradeable commodity.
There are some who legiimately think that Cleveland is now without Sanchez, who though an inconisistent rookie, looks to have some good potential, while also noting that Mangini's handling of the QB situation, pledging to give the winner of the competition the time and support needed to succeed, then pulling him after 2 games and DESTROYING the trade value of BOTH Anderson and Quinn, hasn't exactly left the team stronger than when Mangini joined the team.
There are also some who feel that Mangini's leadership skills as a coach are somewhat suspect, mishandling a litany of issues including starting off by needlessly and pointlessly ruffling the feathers of one of the few good players that Cleveland has
There are some who feel that Mangini has established the Browns as the Raiders Central affiliate - with some players reportedly telling their agents that they want to play "anywhere but Cleveland" since noting how badly Mangnini is running the show down there.
And they question the character and intelligence of someone who would have the poor judgement to recommend and hire his best buddy and old roomate Kokinis and then throw HIM under the bus at Game 8
And all thats just the tip of the iceberg
I don't think they're getting overly caught up in comparing personnel to the Steelers and Ravens.
Again all you're doing is spewing the same crap ESPN has been feeding you....truth is no one knows what is going on in berea or what happened with kokinis and thats the way mangini wants it. I agree totally with not letting your dirty laundry out in the public, people dont need to know whats going on behind close doors and that upsets the media which is why your argument is so flaky can't have an unbiased opinion against the guy who isnt letting you do your job. On top of all that you're a pats fan so you also have an axe to grind with mangini thats cool everyone has someone they just dont like, but you coming in here and talking like everything you say is fact is complete crap.
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I think you're missing the point.
There are some who legitimately look at Cleveland and what Mangni has done in terms of his moves... deciding that he didn't need Sanchez at #5 and instead banking on the fact that one of his two QBs would be good enough to lead the team out of thd dolldrums with the other QB serving as a tradeable commodity.
There are some who legiimately think that Cleveland is now without Sanchez, who though an inconisistent rookie, looks to have some good potential, while also noting that Mangini's handling of the QB situation, pledging to give the winner of the competition the time and support needed to succeed, then pulling him after 2 games and DESTROYING the trade value of BOTH Anderson and Quinn, hasn't exactly left the team stronger than when Mangini joined the team.
There are also some who feel that Mangini's leadership skills as a coach are somewhat suspect, mishandling a litany of issues including starting off by needlessly and pointlessly ruffling the feathers of one of the few good players that Cleveland has
There are some who feel that Mangini has established the Browns as the Raiders Central affiliate - with some players reportedly telling their agents that they want to play "anywhere but Cleveland" since noting how badly Mangnini is running the show down there.
And they question the character and intelligence of someone who would have the poor judgement to recommend and hire his best buddy and old roomate Kokinis and then throw HIM under the bus at Game 8
And all thats just the tip of the iceberg
I don't think they're getting overly caught up in comparing personnel to the Steelers and Ravens.
Again all you're doing is spewing the same crap ESPN has been feeding you....truth is no one knows what is going on in berea or what happened with kokinis and thats the way mangini wants it. I agree totally with not letting your dirty laundry out in the public, people dont need to know whats going on behind close doors and that upsets the media which is why your argument is so flaky can't have an unbiased opinion against the guy who isnt letting you do your job. On top of all that you're a pats fan so you also have an axe to grind with mangini thats cool everyone has someone they just dont like, but you coming in here and talking like everything you say is fact is complete crap.
Dawgfanforever88 said:
Again all you're doing is spewing the same crap ESPN has been feeding you....truth is no one knows what is going on in berea or what happened with kokinis and thats the way mangini wants it. I agree totally with not letting your dirty laundry out in the public, people dont need to know whats going on behind close doors and that upsets the media which is why your argument is so flaky can't have an unbiased opinion against the guy who isnt letting you do your job. On top of all that you're a pats fan so you also have an axe to grind with mangini thats cool everyone has someone they just dont like, but you coming in here and talking like everything you say is fact is complete crap.I agree. So many people are ready to give Mangini crap, when they themselves can't think of anyting better to do than "Draft Sanchez and Maualuga". It's really getting to be annoying. Furthermore, what is a Pats' fan even doing on this board? Isn't there a multitude of other Pats' fans ready to blow you because you guys are the coolest people in the nation?
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That's some good Kool Aid you's all drinkin in Cleveland!
Mangini - the defacto GM who chose the last GM and will choose the next, has the players and team going in the right direction.
Maybe the things that a lot of players are saying privately - and publicly - are just figments of our imagination... and the fact that some teams Defenses have score more TDs than the Browns offense.
http://nashvillecitypaper.com/content/spor...find-each-other
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/...m-in-cleveland/
Per McCormick, Hood didn't provide chapter-and-verse particulars. But Hood said he'd never encountered anything like it during his seven NFL seasons.
"I don't want to go into it specifically. The owner is a good guy, and the organization in years past, but now they've got some people in there that's not running it the way it should be," Hood explained. "I've never experienced football [like that]. I came from two good organizations in Philly and Arizona, and I'd never seen football handled the way it was when I was there."
The unspoken target of Hood's attack is, clearly, coach Eric Mangini. Though some might think Mangini has become a pin cushion for criticism because of the way he handles the media, we get the sense that it runs much deeper than that. A league source recently told us that former G.M. George Kokinis "changed" once he arrived in Cleveland, and that he seemed aloof and always fearful. The source believes that Kokinis changed due to the stress of working with (for) Mangini.
And while we heard in the wake of the team's first and only win of the year that Mangini had changed for the better, another source told us that Mangini fairly quickly went back the other way.
That said, there likely are more than a few players who don't have a problem with the way Mangini is running the Browns. For Mangini's sake, it would be nice if one or more of them would stand up and prop up the team's embattled coach.
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That's some good Kool Aid you's all drinkin in Cleveland!
Mangini - the defacto GM who chose the last GM and will choose the next, has the players and team going in the right direction.
Maybe the things that a lot of players are saying privately - and publicly - are just figments of our imagination... and the fact that some teams Defenses have score more TDs than the Browns offense.
http://nashvillecitypaper.com/content/spor...find-each-other
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/...m-in-cleveland/
Per McCormick, Hood didn't provide chapter-and-verse particulars. But Hood said he'd never encountered anything like it during his seven NFL seasons.
"I don't want to go into it specifically. The owner is a good guy, and the organization in years past, but now they've got some people in there that's not running it the way it should be," Hood explained. "I've never experienced football [like that]. I came from two good organizations in Philly and Arizona, and I'd never seen football handled the way it was when I was there."
The unspoken target of Hood's attack is, clearly, coach Eric Mangini. Though some might think Mangini has become a pin cushion for criticism because of the way he handles the media, we get the sense that it runs much deeper than that. A league source recently told us that former G.M. George Kokinis "changed" once he arrived in Cleveland, and that he seemed aloof and always fearful. The source believes that Kokinis changed due to the stress of working with (for) Mangini.
And while we heard in the wake of the team's first and only win of the year that Mangini had changed for the better, another source told us that Mangini fairly quickly went back the other way.
That said, there likely are more than a few players who don't have a problem with the way Mangini is running the Browns. For Mangini's sake, it would be nice if one or more of them would stand up and prop up the team's embattled coach.
That's some good Kool Aid you's all drinkin in Cleveland!
Mangini - the defacto GM who chose the last GM and will choose the next, has the players and team going in the right direction.
Maybe the things that a lot of players are saying privately - and publicly - are just figments of our imagination... and the fact that some teams Defenses have score more TDs than the Browns offense.
http://nashvillecitypaper.com/content/spor...find-each-other
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/...m-in-cleveland/
figured you wouldn't have a reply
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That's some good Kool Aid you's all drinkin in Cleveland!
Mangini - the defacto GM who chose the last GM and will choose the next, has the players and team going in the right direction.
Maybe the things that a lot of players are saying privately - and publicly - are just figments of our imagination... and the fact that some teams Defenses have score more TDs than the Browns offense.
http://nashvillecitypaper.com/content/spor...find-each-other
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/...m-in-cleveland/
figured you wouldn't have a reply
Dawgfanforever88 said:
figured you wouldn't have a replyNo I'm agreeing with you. It's all fiction.
In fact, it's right out of a book and movie (fiction of course)
Didn't you see the screenplay? Andy Richter plays the coach.
http://www.cleveland.com/budshaw/index.ssf...land_brown.html
What to call it: The Man Who Fires Goats?
Got a crazy book idea. Actually, forget the book and let's go straight to the TV mini-series. A camera-resistant owner (Richard Dreyfuss) of a 1-7 football team just parted ways with his second general manager in less than a year.
In the furor over yet another losing season, he tries to head off a protest by meeting with two disgruntled fans.
As an entire football-loving city awaits answers from the owner about the latest sign of chaos in his organization, the first one to speak on behalf of the man in charge is one of the aforementioned fans who used to go to games dressed like a French fry.
He appears on a newspaper Web site wearing what looks to be a fuzzy bone hat.
Some people give the owner credit for recognizing his hiring mistakes so quickly. Others have even lower standards. They're simply happy he didn't hire the bone hat guy as a consultant.
The owner is not comfortable facing a wider audience of inquisitors concerning how his team has unraveled so soon under the coach he coveted (Andy Richter). Greater transparency in the organization is one of the owner's latest stated goals...just not now.
No one doubts the owner means well. You'd probably even like to have a beer with the guy. But the situation is so far beyond giving him credit for meaning well.
Reed Saxon/Associated PressIs that a devil-may-care gleam in our make-believe coach's eye? Or just another amused reference to following the "process" of rebuilding/decimating a venerated franchise?A husband who enrolls his wife in Weight Watcher's classes as a birthday surprise might mean well, too. But, yo, pal, what were you thinking?
The owner's stated goal is to hire an experienced, credible football man to lead his organization -- this less than a year after hearing a call for an experienced, credible football man to lead his organization and instead hiring a just-fired coach first.
Worse, his last coach (Forrest Whitaker) is showing up in Coors Light commercials on TV while the owner's current team is driving people to the beer fridge.
And it's so bad now some people are pining for the last guy, whose 4-12 record looks like the stairway to heaven.
The owner's No. 1 running back (Jamal Lewis as himself in his first post-retirement acting role) says he has an idea for how to run a franchise. His model? He says he'd model it after the one run by the city's Public Enemy No. 1 -- let's call him Art -- who took the team to another city in the mid-90s. Beautiful.
In a two-week period the team has been outscored 61-9; the GM no one knew is gone; the quarterback's passer rating is officially subterranean; the coach assures everyone the organization is as strong as it's ever been in losing seven of eight games; and in an email interview, the owner responds to a list of questions and says he doesn't see any scenario where the head coach won't return next season.
I don't want to give away all the planned episodes. But in one, the frustration of the team's fans continue with a late-season petition in favor of the down-on-his-luck, somewhat wild and wacky former star quarterback taking an expanded role in the organization despite no NFL front office experience.
The first casting call for that role is expected to go to Michael Richards.
In REAL life, all is well.
However it is a mystery how something that should have been posted by ESPN made it onto Cleveland.com because everyone in Cleveland knows everything's going as planned. It's only the national and ESPN folks that think things are in disarray.
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Some things that make me optimistic about Mangini, even half-way into a miserable season:
1. He seems like a smart problem-solver. Once he has the talent, I don't see him losing many games by having the wrong gameplan.
2. He's disciplined (unlike Crennel) without being an asshole (like Butch Davis). I love how few penalties we've committed this year. I'm worried about mistaken assignments on defense explaining some of those huge plays against us. But I have to think that over time Rob Ryan + Mangini is going to give us a strong defense, especially if we draft some playmakers.
3. I like his emphasis on players with character and reasonable intelligence who put football first, players like Cribbs, Wimbley, and Massaquoi. His emphasis on players who can play multiple positions has already proven helpful.
4. In spite of all the drama this season, I think of Mangini as (more or less) even-tempered and an upstanding guy. Yes, it's nice having the fiery Ryan as def coordinator, but that sort of character can quickly become Tom Cable before you know it, and you just don't want that at the helm.
Some things that make me optimistic about Mangini, even half-way into a miserable season:
1. He seems like a smart problem-solver. Once he has the talent, I don't see him losing many games by having the wrong gameplan.
2. He's disciplined (unlike Crennel) without being an asshole (like Butch Davis). I love how few penalties we've committed this year. I'm worried about mistaken assignments on defense explaining some of those huge plays against us. But I have to think that over time Rob Ryan + Mangini is going to give us a strong defense, especially if we draft some playmakers.
3. I like his emphasis on players with character and reasonable intelligence who put football first, players like Cribbs, Wimbley, and Massaquoi. His emphasis on players who can play multiple positions has already proven helpful.
4. In spite of all the drama this season, I think of Mangini as (more or less) even-tempered and an upstanding guy. Yes, it's nice having the fiery Ryan as def coordinator, but that sort of character can quickly become Tom Cable before you know it, and you just don't want that at the helm.
Wrong game plan? Ask a Jets fan, I've been to some boards. The team quit on the guy at the end of last season (except for the ones playing for the Browns this year of course). The Jets gave up 122 points at the end of the season after having a good defense all year. Sure you can have a game plan to win, but if you're a prick and your players quit?
Too few penalties! LOL. They have 52 (28th) and 428 yards (24th). Being ranked 32nd in the league in passing with 972 yards we have 1/2 the amount of passing yards FOR THE YEAR in penalties. Not only that it seems all of these penalties are at the worst possible time, drive stoppers.
Players with character. There is a quote from Lavarious Coles in my previous post that states those "character" guys are actually guys that like Mangini. Why else would someone bring in scrubs like he did from the Jets that NO ONE ELSE wanted to play for this team? Because of character? Give me a break.
In spite of all the drama. Blah, Blah, Blah. The drama HE created. Instead of creating drama, him and Daballs need to work on getting a first down.
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