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  • hammertimeH hammertime

    @drunkandstoopid said:

    I think Mangini needs to make his choice between Quinn and Anderson at the end of the year, then get rid of the other. At that point, if they think Ratliff can be a reliable second, draft a second day QB with potential, if not on the Ratliff question, bring in a serviceable journeyman and have him compete for the starting spot. The first two three rounds they need to go for the best players at position of need they can get this year. Build a cockpit and a defense for a QB, then maybe a QB will have a chance here.

    Somewhere in your mind, do you actually beleive DA should be in any equation for our roster next year?

    Make a choice? Like a choice is even needed. DA should not be on an NFL roster, well maybe a practice squad.

    @hammertime said:

    Somewhere in your mind, do you actually beleive DA should be in any equation for our roster next year?

    Make a choice? Like a choice is even needed. DA should not be on an NFL roster, well maybe a practice squad.

    I believe at least one of these two should be jettisoned. What happens if Brady comes in and leads the Browns to 24 first downs the rest of the season? I suggest keeping one of them only because the entire team kind of sucks, and it'd be good to have one of them to come in already "knowing the offense" to compete with a veteran journeyman to keep him honest. I don't see the team bring in an entire cadre of new faces at the QB position.

  • Jake Locker is being hyped up by people who watch him on highlights because if you would actually sit down and watch him for a full game, you'll realize how inaccurate and overrated he is.

    His career completion percentage is below 55 percent and is only completing 56% of his passes this year.

    If it weren't for his legs no one would notice him. He is below average. No thanks.

  • Rob Rang said:

    Colt McCoy, QB, Texas

    McCoy might have helped his Heisman campaign by passing for 470 yards against Central Florida last Saturday, but NFL scouts came away alarmed on several fronts.

    Against an overmatched Golden Knights defense, McCoy still repeatedly stared down his receivers and often forced balls into coverage. One of his passes was intercepted, and several more could have been.

    Taking snaps out of the shotgun, McCoy appeared unwilling to step up in the pocket and instead often drifted outside of it. When his primary read was covered, McCoy struggled to make the adjustment, leaving open targets unchecked and either forcing passes to covered receivers (often wide receiver Jordan Shipley) or scrambling.

    On multiple occasions, including near his own end zone, McCoy would drift wide, wait for a receiver to streak across the middle and then fire passes across his body into the teeth of the defense. McCoy was able to get away with it against UCF. Against NFL speed, he would have been intercepted on multiple occasions.

    I've rated McCoy as the top senior quarterback all season and I continue to believe he has the talent to be a starter in the NFL. I also believe he'll be the first senior quarterback drafted. His athleticism, toughness, short-to-intermediate accuracy and winning percentage cannot simply be ignored.

    However, McCoy proved much less NFL-ready than I'd hoped for a four-year starter against inferior competition. Considering the host of other concerns NFL scouts have (relative lack of size, marginal arm strength, transition from a spread offense), teams needing immediate quarterback help from the 2010 draft will be looking to underclassmen. -- Rob Rang

    via here.

  • If the Browns draft a QB with their first round pick I will literally kill myself

    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • E Earl34

    @the-gipper said:

    Well, I don't trust those Lone Star QBs. Look at the guys that have come out of Texas Tech and Houston and places like that who lit their college leagues on fire but could do nada in the NFL. Exhibit A: Andre Ware Exhibit B: David Klingler

    I knew Andre Ware and I could've told you he would be a bust. Comparing Colt McCoy who will likely finish with the highest completion rating in the history of college football with the U of H QBs from 20 years ago is not a fair comparison.

    @earl34 said:

    I knew Andre Ware and I could've told you he would be a bust. Comparing Colt McCoy who will likely finish with the highest completion rating in the history of college football with the U of H QBs from 20 years ago is not a fair comparison.

    I think you may be right. I was thinking more in terms of the QBs that light the place up for the likes of Houston, Texas Tech and a few of those other places down there that play in those gimmick offenses. That is another reason I am not necessarily sold on say, Michael Crabtree. He looked great in college, but he has to do it in the pros to sell me.

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  • S shoot

    If the Browns draft a QB with their first round pick I will literally kill myself

    shit said:

    If the Browns draft a QB with their first round pick I will literally kill myself

    How about just cutting off a pinky toe? Your family would probably miss you if you took such drastic actions over something as trivial as a Browns draft choice. No, a pinky toe will suffice.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @earl34 said:

    I knew Andre Ware and I could've told you he would be a bust. Comparing Colt McCoy who will likely finish with the highest completion rating in the history of college football with the U of H QBs from 20 years ago is not a fair comparison.

    I think you may be right. I was thinking more in terms of the QBs that light the place up for the likes of Houston, Texas Tech and a few of those other places down there that play in those gimmick offenses. That is another reason I am not necessarily sold on say, Michael Crabtree. He looked great in college, but he has to do it in the pros to sell me.

    @the-gipper said:

    I think you may be right. I was thinking more in terms of the QBs that light the place up for the likes of Houston, Texas Tech and a few of those other places down there that play in those gimmick offenses. That is another reason I am not necessarily sold on say, Michael Crabtree. He looked great in college, but he has to do it in the pros to sell me.

    Have you even watched Houston play?

    E The GipperT 2 Replies
  • S Solon16

    @the-gipper said:

    I think you may be right. I was thinking more in terms of the QBs that light the place up for the likes of Houston, Texas Tech and a few of those other places down there that play in those gimmick offenses. That is another reason I am not necessarily sold on say, Michael Crabtree. He looked great in college, but he has to do it in the pros to sell me.

    Have you even watched Houston play?

    @solon16 said:

    Have you even watched Houston play?

    I'm with you. Case Keenum can chuck it. Seriously.

    The GipperT 1 Reply
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  • S Solon16

    @the-gipper said:

    I think you may be right. I was thinking more in terms of the QBs that light the place up for the likes of Houston, Texas Tech and a few of those other places down there that play in those gimmick offenses. That is another reason I am not necessarily sold on say, Michael Crabtree. He looked great in college, but he has to do it in the pros to sell me.

    Have you even watched Houston play?

    @solon16 said:

    Have you even watched Houston play?

    Just highlights. Have you? I may in fact be going by history. I mean, who really knows. As has been pointed out in this or other threads, Hall of Fame QBs have gone undrafted(Moon) or drafted in the 17th(Starr), 9th(Unitas), 6th rounds (Brady). Where the QBs who have been drafted #1 overall in the NFL draft include these names:

    Randy Duncan

    King Hill

    George Shaw

    Bobby Garrett

    (yea, Who are these guys?)

    Terry Baker (1 start)

    Angelo Bertelli (5 starts)

    Jeff George

    David Carr

    Alex Smith

    etc.

    Ryan Leaf taken #2 or 3 overall.

  • E Earl34

    @solon16 said:

    Have you even watched Houston play?

    I'm with you. Case Keenum can chuck it. Seriously.

    @earl34 said:

    I'm with you. Case Keenum can chuck it. Seriously.

    OK, sure, so couldn't a lot of guys. The following are among the NCAAs all time passing leaders:

    Timmy Chang

    Ty Detmer

    Tim Rattay

    Luke McCown

    Chris Redman

    Kliff Kingsbury

    Colt Brennan

    Kevin Kolb

    None of these guys have exactly lit the NFL on fire.

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  • I've watched 5 houston games on tv... Case Keenum is the real deal...imo

  • James Vandenberg is the real deal!!!! Guys a freshman for Iowa looked like the best QB in college football today. He had pin point accuracy and a rocket for an arm. And the composure he showed for his first start againt a great Ohio State defense. I want this guy, lets hold out a couple years on drafting another QB untill he comes out. Kirk Ferentz really nows how to find and develope QB's, maybe we should've let Pioli hire him as our coach.

    1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @earl34 said:

    I'm with you. Case Keenum can chuck it. Seriously.

    OK, sure, so couldn't a lot of guys. The following are among the NCAAs all time passing leaders:

    Timmy Chang

    Ty Detmer

    Tim Rattay

    Luke McCown

    Chris Redman

    Kliff Kingsbury

    Colt Brennan

    Kevin Kolb

    None of these guys have exactly lit the NFL on fire.

    @the-gipper said:

    OK, sure, so couldn't a lot of guys. The following are among the NCAAs all time passing leaders:

    Timmy Chang

    Ty Detmer

    Tim Rattay

    Luke McCown

    Chris Redman

    Kliff Kingsbury

    Colt Brennan

    Kevin Kolb

    None of these guys have exactly lit the NFL on fire

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    This problem is only going to get worse. These guys you mention were all system QBs running some version of the spread offense. Now, there are so few teams running a pro-style offense that the guys coming out now aren't going to be very discernable from the above. Tebow, McCoy and Bradford all ran spread type offenses. The bust rate in QBs could go up.

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