Mutiny in the Locker Room?
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I suggest you seek professional help in your obsession with Mangini. Let it go.
I suggest you seek professional help in your obsession with Mangini. Let it go.
Seriously Dude, It's a bit troublesome..Did EM smack you around when you where kids or something?
Did he steal you're Breezy?
It's one of the most bizzare things I've witnessed
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I suggest you seek professional help in your obsession with Mangini. Let it go.
Seriously Dude, It's a bit troublesome..Did EM smack you around when you where kids or something?
Did he steal you're Breezy?
It's one of the most bizzare things I've witnessed
QUOTE (DieHardBrownsFan @ Nov 14 2009, 04:56 PM)
"I suggest you seek professional help in your obsession with Mangini. Let it go."
Seriously Dude, It's a bit troublesome..Did EM smack you around when you where kids or something?
Did he steal you're Breezy?
It's one of the most bizzare things I've witnessed
I agree with you. A hit to the head WOULD explain DieHardBrownsFan's bizarre constant defense of Mangini in light of so many facts showing that team is going backwards.
Some day, when there's a real coach and credible team, folks around here will be thanking fans like PeterBell who made their displeasure with the direction of the team known.
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QUOTE (DieHardBrownsFan @ Nov 14 2009, 04:56 PM)
"I suggest you seek professional help in your obsession with Mangini. Let it go."
Seriously Dude, It's a bit troublesome..Did EM smack you around when you where kids or something?
Did he steal you're Breezy?
It's one of the most bizzare things I've witnessed
I agree with you. A hit to the head WOULD explain DieHardBrownsFan's bizarre constant defense of Mangini in light of so many facts showing that team is going backwards.
Some day, when there's a real coach and credible team, folks around here will be thanking fans like PeterBell who made their displeasure with the direction of the team known.
I agree with you. A hit to the head WOULD explain DieHardBrownsFan's bizarre constant defense of Mangini in light of so many facts showing that team is going backwards.
Some day, when there's a real coach and credible team, folks around here will be thanking fans like PeterBell who made their displeasure with the direction of the team known.
We were 4-12 last year, dismantled a terrible team to rebuild for more consistent success. You cant get much worse than 4-12.
We had all those great players last year that you keep crying that mangini traded away this year, guess what we werent successful.
Will more than likely end up with the same record this year without them guys, go into the draft with 11 picks and a plan and direction for success thanks to Mangini.
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QUOTE (DieHardBrownsFan @ Nov 14 2009, 04:56 PM)
"I suggest you seek professional help in your obsession with Mangini. Let it go."
Seriously Dude, It's a bit troublesome..Did EM smack you around when you where kids or something?
Did he steal you're Breezy?
It's one of the most bizzare things I've witnessed
I agree with you. A hit to the head WOULD explain DieHardBrownsFan's bizarre constant defense of Mangini in light of so many facts showing that team is going backwards.
Some day, when there's a real coach and credible team, folks around here will be thanking fans like PeterBell who made their displeasure with the direction of the team known.
I agree with you. A hit to the head WOULD explain DieHardBrownsFan's bizarre constant defense of Mangini in light of so many facts showing that team is going backwards.
Some day, when there's a real coach and credible team, folks around here will be thanking fans like PeterBell who made their displeasure with the direction of the team known.
You're one wack ass Pat's fan..Dude you joined this board right when Mangini got the job...WOW
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These guys make millions to play a game. They can either A. Do what there told for the 8 hours a week they have to work or B. Get a job at Mcdonalds, sell there jewerly and come back to the real world. Pretty easy choice if you ask me.
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QUOTE (DieHardBrownsFan @ Nov 14 2009, 04:56 PM)
"I suggest you seek professional help in your obsession with Mangini. Let it go."
Seriously Dude, It's a bit troublesome..Did EM smack you around when you where kids or something?
Did he steal you're Breezy?
It's one of the most bizzare things I've witnessed
I agree with you. A hit to the head WOULD explain DieHardBrownsFan's bizarre constant defense of Mangini in light of so many facts showing that team is going backwards.
Some day, when there's a real coach and credible team, folks around here will be thanking fans like PeterBell who made their displeasure with the direction of the team known.
I agree with you. A hit to the head WOULD explain DieHardBrownsFan's bizarre constant defense of Mangini in light of so many facts showing that team is going backwards.
Some day, when there's a real coach and credible team, folks around here will be thanking fans like PeterBell who made their displeasure with the direction of the team known.
I believe he was refering to you Sixpat.
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I stand by Mangini.
When Joe Thomas loses support and gives up, that might be news. Keep searching until then, boys.
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Lewis will be gone next season and others who aren't with the program will find themselves working for WalMart if they haven't saved any money. When you can't execute the simple fundamentals you need more practice. If they start tackling and blocking better and catching better practices might become easier.
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Way to quote PFT....what a credible news gathering service
Our schools need to do a better job of reading comprehension.
If you read it you know the source was of course the Akron Beacon.
http://www.ohio.com/news/top_stories/70071987.html
Questioning PFTs credibility in "news gathering" might be a valid point but in this case they were in fact able to cut and paste the link - and accurately read - what Marla Ridenour of the Beacon wrote.
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Who knows what goes on behind closed doors. Just because Mangini doesn't reprimand Lewis in front of a reporter doesn't mean it hasn't happened.
The press make me sick. They love seeing teams and people in turmoil cause it gives them something good to write about.
I am sick and tiered of all this overreacting going on around the browns. We had to blow up the team this year! What did people expect? We have 11 draft picks, we have a number of key players that are very young, the last regime left our team pretty empty on the talent scale, it is going to take time to build a winner! Chill out and give this team some time!
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Way to quote PFT....what a credible news gathering service
Our schools need to do a better job of reading comprehension.
If you read it you know the source was of course the Akron Beacon.
http://www.ohio.com/news/top_stories/70071987.html
Questioning PFTs credibility in "news gathering" might be a valid point but in this case they were in fact able to cut and paste the link - and accurately read - what Marla Ridenour of the Beacon wrote.
Our schools need to do a better job of reading comprehension.
If you read it you know the source was of course the Akron Beacon.
http://www.ohio.com/news/top_stories/70071987.html
Questioning PFTs credibility in "news gathering" might be a valid point but in this case they were in fact able to cut and paste the link - and accurately read - what Marla Ridenour of the Beacon wrote.
I don't read PFT because Mike Florio may be the only person on the planet more blatantly against unbiased reporting than you. He is remarkably biased in everything he posts on that site and quite frankly the language they allow is objectionable.
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I'm going to try to be as simplistic as possible with this post.
1) Negativity in the media surrounded the hiring of Mangini in January. It came from the New York media mainly, and then the Cleveland media followed the same path.
2) This media campaign against Mangini is taking anything they can remotely gather and running with it. The Shaun Rogers snub, the Davis injury, the supposed water bottle fine, the Edwards trade, and now the J-Lew comments. All of it has been turned on Eric Mangini right from the get go.
3) This team has talent to win on the defensive side of the ball. What they lack to become a better than average defense is a playmaking safety and a dynamic inside linebacker. Rob Ryan does not need another pass rusher like many believe because he is creative with his pass rush schemes.
4) This team does not have talent to win on the offensive side of the ball. The o-line is adequate, but the Browns have to add a young set of legs with some speed at RB and add a stud receiver before they can get better. This also will allow them to better assess Quinn. Right now the deck is stacked against our QB, no matter who he is.
5) In my opinion, Mangini has made two mistakes since taking over in January. #1 is hiring Brian Daboll. He is not yet ready for primetime. #2 was benching Quinn early in the season. That did nothing but shake what confidence Quinn had.
6) I totally tune out anything in the national media that comes out about Mangini. They don't really know the whole story and use "sources" to mold and shape their perspective into something negative about Mangini. It's actually disgusting to watch the fans buy into everything negative that's been said.
7) Tony Grossi is a pissed-off, little whiney hack who has picked up where the NY media left off in its smear campaign against Mangini. This is a guy who won't write anything positive about a coach when he can't get any information from him. He slammed the hell out of Belichick when BB was calling the shots here, and all that did was make Cleveland fans dislike the best coach here since Paul Brown. Granted, I was pissed at him, too, when he cut Bernie. But a year later (his fourth by the way) BB had his FIRST winning season and a solid, disciplined playoff football team.
The fact that Mangini has established discipline and accountability is being lost on many fans because of the offense's performance week after week. There's no question that this is being forgotten about because of the frustration caused at the ineptness of the offense. Would 27-21 losses every week be just as frustrating as 27-6? I highly doubt it. That ineptitude is masking every positive thing that occurs.9) I don't know what to make of the Kokinis situation yet. But I sure as hell am not going to be influenced by anything that's written or talked about in the media. I'll wait to pass judgment when the whole story is accurately told. I'm not into innuendos or journalists throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks.
10) I really hope that Eric Mangini gets a fair shot here. If you look through all the bullsh*t surrounding him right now, you should see a guy dedicated to his craft who cares about instilling the long-term values that breed winning. No doubt it's ugly right now and people find it real easy to pile on, but I'm with him.
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