Mangini got us 11 draft picks?
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I'm sick and tired of everyone saying Mangini got us 11 draft picks next year! The last time I checked, the draft is 7 rounds long and every team has one draft pick per round so let's do the math: 1 draft pick times 7 rounds....carry the one....oh yea 7 picks!
The truth: Mangini through trades has netted us 4 draft picks for next year's draft which are a 7th RD for Leonard Little, a 3rd & 5th for BE and a 5th for Winslow (as part of that trade we had an extra 2nd this year). Now let's analyze shall we - a 3rd, 2 5ths and a 7th. What do we get? 2 special teams players of which one might actually be a decent back up position player, one player for the practice squad and one who won't make the team. Wow!
I know, I know, before someone brings up Tom Brady in the 6th rd, Earnest Byner, Brian Sipe...All those guys were miracle finds late in the draft but come on - How often does this happen and when was the last time it happened for the Browns?
Thoughts on the truth?
D.A.W.G. or AKA Ignorantly-backsided caucasian -
I'm sick and tired of everyone saying Mangini got us 11 draft picks next year! The last time I checked, the draft is 7 rounds long and every team has one draft pick per round so let's do the math: 1 draft pick times 7 rounds....carry the one....oh yea 7 picks!
The truth: Mangini through trades has netted us 4 draft picks for next year's draft which are a 7th RD for Leonard Little, a 3rd & 5th for BE and a 5th for Winslow (as part of that trade we had an extra 2nd this year). Now let's analyze shall we - a 3rd, 2 5ths and a 7th. What do we get? 2 special teams players of which one might actually be a decent back up position player, one player for the practice squad and one who won't make the team. Wow!
I know, I know, before someone brings up Tom Brady in the 6th rd, Earnest Byner, Brian Sipe...All those guys were miracle finds late in the draft but come on - How often does this happen and when was the last time it happened for the Browns?
Thoughts on the truth?
I'm sick and tired of everyone saying Mangini got us 11 draft picks next year! The last time I checked, the draft is 7 rounds long and every team has one draft pick per round so let's do the math: 1 draft pick times 7 rounds....carry the one....oh yea 7 picks!
The truth: Mangini through trades has netted us 4 draft picks for next year's draft which are a 7th RD for Leonard Little, a 3rd & 5th for BE and a 5th for Winslow (as part of that trade we had an extra 2nd this year). Now let's analyze shall we - a 3rd, 2 5ths and a 7th. What do we get? 2 special teams players of which one might actually be a decent back up position player, one player for the practice squad and one who won't make the team. Wow!
I know, I know, before someone brings up Tom Brady in the 6th rd, Earnest Byner, Brian Sipe...All those guys were miracle finds late in the draft but come on - How often does this happen and when was the last time it happened for the Browns?
Thoughts on the truth?
I couldn't agree more. The chances that those picks will produce something are slim.
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I'm sick and tired of everyone saying Mangini got us 11 draft picks next year! The last time I checked, the draft is 7 rounds long and every team has one draft pick per round so let's do the math: 1 draft pick times 7 rounds....carry the one....oh yea 7 picks!
The truth: Mangini through trades has netted us 4 draft picks for next year's draft which are a 7th RD for Leonard Little, a 3rd & 5th for BE and a 5th for Winslow (as part of that trade we had an extra 2nd this year). Now let's analyze shall we - a 3rd, 2 5ths and a 7th. What do we get? 2 special teams players of which one might actually be a decent back up position player, one player for the practice squad and one who won't make the team. Wow!
I know, I know, before someone brings up Tom Brady in the 6th rd, Earnest Byner, Brian Sipe...All those guys were miracle finds late in the draft but come on - How often does this happen and when was the last time it happened for the Browns?
Thoughts on the truth?
I'm sick and tired of everyone saying Mangini got us 11 draft picks next year! The last time I checked, the draft is 7 rounds long and every team has one draft pick per round so let's do the math: 1 draft pick times 7 rounds....carry the one....oh yea 7 picks!
The truth: Mangini through trades has netted us 4 draft picks for next year's draft which are a 7th RD for Leonard Little, a 3rd & 5th for BE and a 5th for Winslow (as part of that trade we had an extra 2nd this year). Now let's analyze shall we - a 3rd, 2 5ths and a 7th. What do we get? 2 special teams players of which one might actually be a decent back up position player, one player for the practice squad and one who won't make the team. Wow!
I know, I know, before someone brings up Tom Brady in the 6th rd, Earnest Byner, Brian Sipe...All those guys were miracle finds late in the draft but come on - How often does this happen and when was the last time it happened for the Browns?
Thoughts on the truth?
True, however, two points:
1) Savage left you with 4 this year
2) Any NFL GM will turn two fifths into a third or package those low rounders to move up when a player falls within reach.
Don't discount the value of the future player for that of the malfunctioning one now. Cleveland has 11 picks and money to spend. That's better than the alternative.
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They can use them to TRADE UP, a la Bill Belichick, Mangini's idol.
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Thanks....
To me the 3rd round is a round where you get eventual starters....the 5th rounders are still pretty decent picks..we might find something there...the 7th....I agree...just another dart to throw.
The thing is you have to key certain spots in the 3rd round...start talking receivers, qb's, and backs..you are going to have to get lucky....start keying guards, TE's, centers, ILBs, and safeties, you can usually find some nice, serviceable players.
Maybe not all pro's, but guys who can play and make a team solid.
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I'm sick and tired of everyone saying Mangini got us 11 draft picks next year! The last time I checked, the draft is 7 rounds long and every team has one draft pick per round so let's do the math: 1 draft pick times 7 rounds....carry the one....oh yea 7 picks!
The truth: Mangini through trades has netted us 4 draft picks for next year's draft which are a 7th RD for Leonard Little, a 3rd & 5th for BE and a 5th for Winslow (as part of that trade we had an extra 2nd this year). Now let's analyze shall we - a 3rd, 2 5ths and a 7th. What do we get? 2 special teams players of which one might actually be a decent back up position player, one player for the practice squad and one who won't make the team. Wow!
I know, I know, before someone brings up Tom Brady in the 6th rd, Earnest Byner, Brian Sipe...All those guys were miracle finds late in the draft but come on - How often does this happen and when was the last time it happened for the Browns?
Thoughts on the truth?
I'm sick and tired of everyone saying Mangini got us 11 draft picks next year! The last time I checked, the draft is 7 rounds long and every team has one draft pick per round so let's do the math: 1 draft pick times 7 rounds....carry the one....oh yea 7 picks!
The truth: Mangini through trades has netted us 4 draft picks for next year's draft which are a 7th RD for Leonard Little, a 3rd & 5th for BE and a 5th for Winslow (as part of that trade we had an extra 2nd this year). Now let's analyze shall we - a 3rd, 2 5ths and a 7th. What do we get? 2 special teams players of which one might actually be a decent back up position player, one player for the practice squad and one who won't make the team. Wow!
I know, I know, before someone brings up Tom Brady in the 6th rd, Earnest Byner, Brian Sipe...All those guys were miracle finds late in the draft but come on - How often does this happen and when was the last time it happened for the Browns?
Thoughts on the truth?
I don't get the point of your post. So you would rather us have less draft picks?
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I will also add i am not that big on quantity of players drafted.
I would almost rather package the 2 third rounders and turn it in to a 2nd rounder, and package the 4th and 2 fifth rounders in to a low third rounder..
End up with a draft like this
1 first rounder
2 second rounders
1 third rounder
1 sixth rounder
2 seventh rounders
Getting that 3rd for the 4th and 5th rounders might be a stretch.
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I'm sick and tired of everyone saying Mangini got us 11 draft picks next year! The last time I checked, the draft is 7 rounds long and every team has one draft pick per round so let's do the math: 1 draft pick times 7 rounds....carry the one....oh yea 7 picks!
The truth: Mangini through trades has netted us 4 draft picks for next year's draft which are a 7th RD for Leonard Little, a 3rd & 5th for BE and a 5th for Winslow (as part of that trade we had an extra 2nd this year). Now let's analyze shall we - a 3rd, 2 5ths and a 7th. What do we get? 2 special teams players of which one might actually be a decent back up position player, one player for the practice squad and one who won't make the team. Wow!
I know, I know, before someone brings up Tom Brady in the 6th rd, Earnest Byner, Brian Sipe...All those guys were miracle finds late in the draft but come on - How often does this happen and when was the last time it happened for the Browns?
Thoughts on the truth?
I don't get the point of your post. So you would rather us have less draft picks?
I don't get the point of your post. So you would rather us have less draft picks?
The point is Mangini didn't get us 11 draft picks, he got us 4 2nd day picks. We would need 11 picks in the first 2 rounds to make this team competitive for next year. He would have to find the proverbial needle in the haystack at least a couple of times with the 4 2nd day picks for this to amount to anything.
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There are future starters in every round but we need the scouts to do a great job and find them for us. Let's hope we have enough scouts to evaluate sleepers at smaller schools and don't spend half our time at Oklahoma practices
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I don't get the point of your post. So you would rather us have less draft picks?
The point is Mangini didn't get us 11 draft picks, he got us 4 2nd day picks. We would need 11 picks in the first 2 rounds to make this team competitive for next year. He would have to find the proverbial needle in the haystack at least a couple of times with the 4 2nd day picks for this to amount to anything.
The point is Mangini didn't get us 11 draft picks, he got us 4 2nd day picks. We would need 11 picks in the first 2 rounds to make this team competitive for next year. He would have to find the proverbial needle in the haystack at least a couple of times with the 4 2nd day picks for this to amount to anything.
Oh, so your complaint is that all 11 picks don't come in the 1st or 2nd round. Yeah that does suck. I would rather all 11 come in the 1st round.
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There are future starters in every round but we need the scouts to do a great job and find them for us. Let's hope we have enough scouts to evaluate sleepers at smaller schools and don't spend half our time at Oklahoma practices
There are future starters in every round but we need the scouts to do a great job and find them for us. Let's hope we have enough scouts to evaluate sleepers at smaller schools and don't spend half our time at Oklahoma practices
I really agree with that....i think you could just take the stock scouting reports on the top 150 players and not scout them at all other than do the background stuff and a interview to get a sense of if the guy is fairly sharp or dumb as a stump.
Spend your time scouting the guys who get drafted in the 4th round down.
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You guys are placing far too many hopes on the draft.
Every coach and GM make good and bad choices in the draft. It's a crap shoot. The first two rounds offer higher probability of finding starters or quality depth, but you're also paying a higher price in the first round (for now, until a new CBA addresses that problem that can help keep bad teams bad and kill their salary cap space.)
The best "solution" is to draft for volume without giving up too much in terms of higher "probability" picks.
As an extreme solution, if the Browns could draft 20 guys in rounds 4 - 7 they'd have a good chance at finding 10 guys who could play. That's a low risk high reward scenario and one should do it.
With 11 picks total, quite a few of which are lower picks, regardless of what you think of Mangini's draft record with Gholston and others, if you get 1 starter and 4 depth players, consider yourself doing pretty well. Given how bad this team is maybe more of them find a place on the roster but that's not truly "quality depth"
Free agency with proven veterans or veterans with potential is the more critical element of rebuilding a team. Draftees - even 1st rounders - can take several years to develop.
Now you need to ask yourself if Mangini is creating an organizational and team environment where the best players are going to WANT to play for him and the Browns.
All things being equal nearly all players would say "No" to that. That's a big problem. The only way to address that is to overpay for players - mediocre or otherwise - and that has salary cap implications as well as cash flow implications (i.e. even if there is no salary cap, Lerner doesn't have unlimited dollars to spend, and over paying for mediocre players prevents him from bringing in great players, assuming they even want to play here)
So short of having 20 or 30 draft picks, free agency is the key to rebuilding in the shorter term, and Mangini has not positioned himself or the team well to coax players to come to Cleveland when they have the choice of 20 or so other quality teams.
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You guys are placing far too many hopes on the draft.
Every coach and GM make good and bad choices in the draft. It's a crap shoot. The first two rounds offer higher probability of finding starters or quality depth, but you're also paying a higher price in the first round (for now, until a new CBA addresses that problem that can help keep bad teams bad and kill their salary cap space.)
The best "solution" is to draft for volume without giving up too much in terms of higher "probability" picks.
As an extreme solution, if the Browns could draft 20 guys in rounds 4 - 7 they'd have a good chance at finding 10 guys who could play. That's a low risk high reward scenario and one should do it.
With 11 picks total, quite a few of which are lower picks, regardless of what you think of Mangini's draft record with Gholston and others, if you get 1 starter and 4 depth players, consider yourself doing pretty well. Given how bad this team is maybe more of them find a place on the roster but that's not truly "quality depth"
Free agency with proven veterans or veterans with potential is the more critical element of rebuilding a team. Draftees - even 1st rounders - can take several years to develop.
Now you need to ask yourself if Mangini is creating an organizational and team environment where the best players are going to WANT to play for him and the Browns.
All things being equal nearly all players would say "No" to that. That's a big problem. The only way to address that is to overpay for players - mediocre or otherwise - and that has salary cap implications as well as cash flow implications (i.e. even if there is no salary cap, Lerner doesn't have unlimited dollars to spend, and over paying for mediocre players prevents him from bringing in great players, assuming they even want to play here)
So short of having 20 or 30 draft picks, free agency is the key to rebuilding in the shorter term, and Mangini has not positioned himself or the team well to coax players to come to Cleveland when they have the choice of 20 or so other quality teams.
You guys are placing far too many hopes on the draft.
Every coach and GM make good and bad choices in the draft. It's a crap shoot. The first two rounds offer higher probability of finding starters or quality depth, but you're also paying a higher price in the first round (for now, until a new CBA addresses that problem that can help keep bad teams bad and kill their salary cap space.)
The best "solution" is to draft for volume without giving up too much in terms of higher "probability" picks.
As an extreme solution, if the Browns could draft 20 guys in rounds 4 - 7 they'd have a good chance at finding 10 guys who could play. That's a low risk high reward scenario and one should do it.
With 11 picks total, quite a few of which are lower picks, regardless of what you think of Mangini's draft record with Gholston and others, if you get 1 starter and 4 depth players, consider yourself doing pretty well. Given how bad this team is maybe more of them find a place on the roster but that's not truly "quality depth"
Free agency with proven veterans or veterans with potential is the more critical element of rebuilding a team. Draftees - even 1st rounders - can take several years to develop.
Now you need to ask yourself if Mangini is creating an organizational and team environment where the best players are going to WANT to play for him and the Browns.
All things being equal nearly all players would say "No" to that. That's a big problem. The only way to address that is to overpay for players - mediocre or otherwise - and that has salary cap implications as well as cash flow implications (i.e. even if there is no salary cap, Lerner doesn't have unlimited dollars to spend, and over paying for mediocre players prevents him from bringing in great players, assuming they even want to play here)
So short of having 20 or 30 draft picks, free agency is the key to rebuilding in the shorter term, and Mangini has not positioned himself or the team well to coax players to come to Cleveland when they have the choice of 20 or so other quality teams.
Two points: A. The draft IS a good way to build your team despite your claim that too much emphasis is being put on it. Look at the Steelers and tell me with a straight face that nearly all your best players were not picked up in the draft. The question is what you do with the picks you have.
B. In free agency, money talks, bullshit walks. All the Browns have to do is to be competitive with spreading the Benjamins around, free agents will come here. The biggest FA of last year, Albert Haynesworth, signed with the Redskins. Why? Because he loved DC, love Jim Zorn, loved Dan Snyder? Hell no, he loved $$$$$.
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You guys are placing far too many hopes on the draft.
Every coach and GM make good and bad choices in the draft. It's a crap shoot. The first two rounds offer higher probability of finding starters or quality depth, but you're also paying a higher price in the first round (for now, until a new CBA addresses that problem that can help keep bad teams bad and kill their salary cap space.)
The best "solution" is to draft for volume without giving up too much in terms of higher "probability" picks.
As an extreme solution, if the Browns could draft 20 guys in rounds 4 - 7 they'd have a good chance at finding 10 guys who could play. That's a low risk high reward scenario and one should do it.
With 11 picks total, quite a few of which are lower picks, regardless of what you think of Mangini's draft record with Gholston and others, if you get 1 starter and 4 depth players, consider yourself doing pretty well. Given how bad this team is maybe more of them find a place on the roster but that's not truly "quality depth"
Free agency with proven veterans or veterans with potential is the more critical element of rebuilding a team. Draftees - even 1st rounders - can take several years to develop.
Now you need to ask yourself if Mangini is creating an organizational and team environment where the best players are going to WANT to play for him and the Browns.
All things being equal nearly all players would say "No" to that. That's a big problem. The only way to address that is to overpay for players - mediocre or otherwise - and that has salary cap implications as well as cash flow implications (i.e. even if there is no salary cap, Lerner doesn't have unlimited dollars to spend, and over paying for mediocre players prevents him from bringing in great players, assuming they even want to play here)
So short of having 20 or 30 draft picks, free agency is the key to rebuilding in the shorter term, and Mangini has not positioned himself or the team well to coax players to come to Cleveland when they have the choice of 20 or so other quality teams.
Two points: A. The draft IS a good way to build your team despite your claim that too much emphasis is being put on it. Look at the Steelers and tell me with a straight face that nearly all your best players were not picked up in the draft. The question is what you do with the picks you have.
B. In free agency, money talks, bullshit walks. All the Browns have to do is to be competitive with spreading the Benjamins around, free agents will come here. The biggest FA of last year, Albert Haynesworth, signed with the Redskins. Why? Because he loved DC, love Jim Zorn, loved Dan Snyder? Hell no, he loved $$$$$.
Two points: A. The draft IS a good way to build your team despite your claim that too much emphasis is being put on it. Look at the Steelers and tell me with a straight face that nearly all your best players were not picked up in the draft. The question is what you do with the picks you have.
B. In free agency, money talks, bullshit walks. All the Browns have to do is to be competitive with spreading the Benjamins around, free agents will come here. The biggest FA of last year, Albert Haynesworth, signed with the Redskins. Why? Because he loved DC, love Jim Zorn, loved Dan Snyder? Hell no, he loved $$$$$.
The draft is a good way to build a team over many many years.
If you're looking to improve this team for next year you will need to focus on free agency.
If you have hopes of improving the team for next year through free agency this team, with the credibility or lack thereof that Mangini has established, Lerner will have to overpay substantially even for the guys who are willing to play here - and many players reportedly have ruled out a willingess to play in Cleveland.
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All 4 of these guys have tons of potential, one of them is no longer with the team (carey) because of injury. One of them starts for us (Maiava), James Davis looked pretty good when he got a chance but is now out with a injury and francies looked good but conerback is a pretty tough position for a rookie, Im excited to see him next year with a season under his belt.
The facts is all these lower round draft choices can see significant playing time for us next year, that tells you how little talent we have. So yea those lower round picks are very important for this team to get better depth and even some starters. Thats the truth
Round 4 (104): LB Kaluka Maiava, USC
Round 6 (177): DB Don Carey, Norfolk State
Round 6 (191): DB Coye Francies, San Jose State
Round 6 (195): RB James Davis, Clemson
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All 4 of these guys have tons of potential, one of them is no longer with the team (carey) because of injury. One of them starts for us (Maiava), James Davis looked pretty good when he got a chance but is now out with a injury and francies looked good but conerback is a pretty tough position for a rookie, Im excited to see him next year with a season under his belt.
The facts is all these lower round draft choices can see significant playing time for us next year, that tells you how little talent we have. So yea those lower round picks are very important for this team to get better depth and even some starters. Thats the truth
Round 4 (104): LB Kaluka Maiava, USC
Round 6 (177): DB Don Carey, Norfolk State
Round 6 (191): DB Coye Francies, San Jose State
Round 6 (195): RB James Davis, Clemson
nmills said:
All 4 of these guys have tons of potential, one of them is no longer with the team (carey) because of injury. One of them starts for us (Maiava), James Davis looked pretty good when he got a chance but is now out with a injury and francies looked good but conerback is a pretty tough position for a rookie, Im excited to see him next year with a season under his belt.The facts is all these lower round draft choices can see significant playing time for us next year, that tells you how little talent we have. So yea those lower round picks are very important for this team to get better depth and even some starters. Thats the truth
Round 4 (104): LB Kaluka Maiava, USC
Round 6 (177): DB Don Carey, Norfolk State
Round 6 (191): DB Coye Francies, San Jose State
Round 6 (195): RB James Davis, Clemson
I think that those are fine picks (or at least will turn out to be) but Don Carey isn't on the team anymore. He was picked up by Jacksonville. (I still don't understand what that was about)
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There are future starters in every round but we need the scouts to do a great job and find them for us. Let's hope we have enough scouts to evaluate sleepers at smaller schools and don't spend half our time at Oklahoma practices
There are future starters in every round but we need the scouts to do a great job and find them for us. Let's hope we have enough scouts to evaluate sleepers at smaller schools and don't spend half our time at Oklahoma practices
You are dead right. Too many scouts spend far too much time watching the players they could already write a book about.
There used to be a guy in Cleveland named Paul Brown who put a LOT of starters (some HOFers) on the field from Morgan State (remember Leroy Kelly?), Southern University, & other small & little known schools in the later rounds. Then later, there were guys like Reggie Langhorne from Elizabeth City State drafted in late rounds.
With the right scouts pounding the "backwoods", we can find some real gems in late rounds. We'll see when the time comes.
Mike
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I'm sick and tired of everyone saying Mangini got us 11 draft picks next year! The last time I checked, the draft is 7 rounds long and every team has one draft pick per round so let's do the math: 1 draft pick times 7 rounds....carry the one....oh yea 7 picks!
The truth: Mangini through trades has netted us 4 draft picks for next year's draft which are a 7th RD for Leonard Little, a 3rd & 5th for BE and a 5th for Winslow (as part of that trade we had an extra 2nd this year). Now let's analyze shall we - a 3rd, 2 5ths and a 7th. What do we get? 2 special teams players of which one might actually be a decent back up position player, one player for the practice squad and one who won't make the team. Wow!
I know, I know, before someone brings up Tom Brady in the 6th rd, Earnest Byner, Brian Sipe...All those guys were miracle finds late in the draft but come on - How often does this happen and when was the last time it happened for the Browns?
Thoughts on the truth?
I'm sick and tired of everyone saying Mangini got us 11 draft picks next year! The last time I checked, the draft is 7 rounds long and every team has one draft pick per round so let's do the math: 1 draft pick times 7 rounds....carry the one....oh yea 7 picks!
The truth: Mangini through trades has netted us 4 draft picks for next year's draft which are a 7th RD for Leonard Little, a 3rd & 5th for BE and a 5th for Winslow (as part of that trade we had an extra 2nd this year). Now let's analyze shall we - a 3rd, 2 5ths and a 7th. What do we get? 2 special teams players of which one might actually be a decent back up position player, one player for the practice squad and one who won't make the team. Wow!
I know, I know, before someone brings up Tom Brady in the 6th rd, Earnest Byner, Brian Sipe...All those guys were miracle finds late in the draft but come on - How often does this happen and when was the last time it happened for the Browns?
Thoughts on the truth?
Thanks for the good conversation piece! The truth hurts. My main question is how FUBAR did the last regime make us?
To ask such a thing I need specifics so here's some reality we shouldn't forget any time soon:
2008 draft = no day 1 picks and a grand total of 5 with such notables as Beau Bell rd 4, Martin Rucker rd 4, Athyba Rubin rd 6 (only solid keeper), Paul Hubbard rd 6, Alex Hall rd 7
Leaving only 4 selections for the 2009 draft: this was bulked up with tradedowns and decent starters from the Jets as well as the Winslow trade. The MAIN person that made Winslow wanting out of Cleveland to the point of no return was Savage.
Free Agent Blunders: Jason Fisk, Ted Washington, Trent Doofus, Corey Williams, Donte Stallworth, Kevin Shaffer, Joe Andruzzi (there was only 1 city in this country the guy could pass a physical in and it just so happened to be the same city our previous GM slept in).
Bad luck: LeCharles Bentley, Antwaan Peek, Matt Stewart & Joe Jurevicious chronic injuries (seemed like he wore blue jeans to more games than he wore the pads in)
Bad Offensive Plan: QB situation with Dilfer leading off, Charlie Frye on-deck, DA in the whole and Quinn (with plans of training another inexperienced QB instead).
Bad Defensive Plan: If you want to run a decent 3-4 - you can't be soft on the Nose (Apex). The first 3 years Savage overpaid dearly for Fisk and Washington (when they were running on fumes) while his draft day ideas were Andrew Hoffman and Babe Oshinowo. Aside from that how about some LBers that make opponents worry? Wimbley is about the only LBer that has shown an ability to do that in 2 of his 4-5 seasons here. Leon Williams kept getting benched at the U for lacking intelligence so I never saw the rationale for NFL material. And WHO wacthes film and says "the first thing I need to do is secure Andra Davis' long term future here"?
I run too hot and cold Jackson because I like his hustle, passion and work ethic; BUT I'd like to see better 1st step instinct which upgrades his impact to the line of scrimmage instead of Wali Rainer territory. Just being honest here but I saw ALOT more 1st step instinct out of Kaluka Maiava the other night which had him significant on short yardage stops that got our defense OFF the field. End result - I prefered his quality to D'Qwell's frequency. Again, it has more to do with an impact that helps our D get off the field. Doesn't mean I hate D'Qwell - it just means he hasn't lived up to the expectations I had for him on the day we drafted him yet. It might still happen but Kaluka might prove to be a gem.
Quality Starters After Rounds 1 + 2 from the Savage Era: Eric Wright maybe? When we were GOOD we were nailing guys like Paul Farren in round 6 and 7. I guess I can say Josh Cribbs from a rock's throw away was as good of a find as Ernest Byner from East Carolina and Brian Sipe from San Diego State back in the day. Unfortunately, I can't stop thinking of what BAD picks we made in Ike Sowells, Jon Dunn, Chase Pittman, Melila Purcell, Andrew Hoffman, Babe Oshinowo, Travis Wilson, Mother Hubbard. There's just nothing that was good enough to coach up and train for a bright NFL future or we would have seen some of these former picks back here haunting us in other uniforms. They get cut and it's curtains.
Needless to say, I hope we hire a qualified GM that brings experienced decision-making skills to Cleveland.
- Tom F.
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