The Pass Interference Call.

[Tim Couch Pulls Out]

@clbrowns said:

Who cares we F*cking suck still!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go root for Buffalo, you faggot.

[medicineman]

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Go root for Buffalo, you faggot.

Lets try not to hate on each other right now. I was thinking the same thing though. WE do still suck but I can't understand why the refs love kicking us when were down. But just like somebody else said It shouldn't have been close.

[medicineman]

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Using a gun would not satisfy me. I would rather use some sort of bludgeon. Or perhaps a whale penis, then it adds insult to injury.

Thats good real good. I really wish I would have thought of something like that. That made us laugh out loud I swear. Thanks for the laugh.

[Kosar_For_President]

@ballpeen said:

Be fair Joe....Culpepper is a guy big enough to bull the ball in from the 2....Stafford isn't...I can see where a defensive adjustment would have been called for.

Hey Ball I said the same thing about Culpepper. Fresh legs and the dude weighs 300 lbs. I think the Time out is a non-issue, the Pass Interference call is what we should be focusing on.

[Kosar_For_President]

@clbrowns said:

Who cares we F*cking suck still!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

F*cking bitch whiner. We played better. Saw Quinn. Go cry to your mother, baby.

[Kosar_For_President]

Formerly Stone said:

If you watch this video through until the replay from behind the Lions, the receiver is literally mauled and tackled while the ball is in the air.

Hey Stone, he was out of bounds, without being pushed, I slowed the video down, then he was "mauled". Calling BS on your part.

Don't be hating cause you lost.

[Kosar_For_President]

Formerly Stone said:

Wrong receiver, watch the receiver that was nearest the ball when it came down, he was well in bounds.

I agree with you. But Stone they called it on #23. Letting Stafford leave the field and this, you have to admit the refs f*cked up on this.

[Kosar_For_President]

Formerly Stone said:

This is one of the things that simply amazes me about some of you guys, you simply can't accept that shit happens! There was absolutely PI on the play, the rules states that a game can not end on a defensive penalty. And the Browns calling timeout is what allowed Stafford to come back in.

Exactly what did the refs get wrong? Maybe they called PI on the wrong number but that means nothing.

Go Chiefs.

p.s. You are on OUR board there numb nuts. Go cry to your bitch Steeler fans about OUR etiquette.

[ClevelandFanForLife]

Formerly Stone said:

This is one of the things that simply amazes me about some of you guys, you simply can't accept that shit happens! There was absolutely PI on the play, the rules states that a game can not end on a defensive penalty. And the Browns calling timeout is what allowed Stafford to come back in.

Exactly what did the refs get wrong? Maybe they called PI on the wrong number but that means nothing.

agreed. the rule says that you are allowed to force the the receiver out of bounds if the qb is out of the pocket AS LONG AS THE QB STILL HAS THE BALL. poteet wasn't looking at the ball (that's the biggie) and he clearly forced him out of the pocket while the ball was in the air. if he would have turned around then he clearly would have noticed that the ball was nowhere near the receiver and he didn't need to touch. poteet and the rest of the defense brady's big day.

[Earl34]

Formerly Stone said:

This is one of the things that simply amazes me about some of you guys, you simply can't accept that shit happens! There was absolutely PI on the play, the rules states that a game can not end on a defensive penalty. And the Browns calling timeout is what allowed Stafford to come back in.

Exactly what did the refs get wrong? Maybe they called PI on the wrong number but that means nothing.

Stone, I agree that there was DPI but 1) you never see that called on a game ending Hail Mary and 2) the DPI rules are relaxed when the QB is scrambling. It's the only way to protect the players downfield from cheap shots and decleats in the name of "run blocking".

Shit does happen....it's just blanketed a competitive game and were it not for the finish, we'd be talking about how much the offense progressed and how it was a "good win" because there was still blatant stuff to work on. People are inpatient.

[Kosar_For_President]

@clevelandfanforlife said:

agreed. the rule says that you are allowed to force the the receiver out of bounds if the qb is out of the pocket AS LONG AS THE QB STILL HAS THE BALL. poteet wasn't looking at the ball (that's the biggie) and he clearly forced him out of the pocket while the ball was in the air. if he would have turned around then he clearly would have noticed that the ball was nowhere near the receiver and he didn't need to touch. poteet and the rest of the defense brady's big day.

Oh no, Stone knows better because he's a Steeler fan.

[Earl34]

Formerly Stone said:

I fully agree about DPI during a hail mary play but the guy was tackled, there has to be a line somewhere and you know damned well if the tables were reversed and the call wasn't made, you guys would be even more pissed!

You're probably right. It just sucks to lose that way. I thought that the team really played hard. I saw some new (good) things from Daboll (who I had thought was overmatched previously).

I don't know that there's a "good" way to lose but a loss like this is painful because you lose sight of the fact that the team did come to life offensively and that there was real improvement in some areas. The defense regressed today; but even though it was the Lions,....Calvin Johnson and Kevin Smith are just beastly players. People here can't discriminate between a loss like this where the team and coaches did a respectable job and one where it just misfired all the way around. There's always going to be second-guessing about this call or that call but I think we're losing sight of the fact that this was arguably the best game they played all season (perhaps with the exception of the Cincy game). Funny how the coaches look better when the receivers actually catch the ball.

We pine away for "improvement" and "signs of progress" and despite this loss I would say that it was something that can be built upon. The fans will get louder with their discontent and hatred for EM but I think that's just years of frustration clouding the fact that this team needs more players who can play. The Browns don't have to be as good as the Steelers or the Ravens or the Colts or the Saints. We just want them to be better than the Browns and today was the first time that it appeared that they were to me.

[Kosar_For_President]

Formerly Stone said:

Dude, give it a rest, you're making yourself look stupid.

Don't you have to be somewhere.

Let me ask you this Stone, why are you not consorting with your Steeler fags on a fine morning like today?

[Kosar_For_President]

Formerly Stone said:

I am, and this losing crap sucks!

Wow, what a life you lead, 2 boards, what to do, what to do.

[JoeSixPat]

@earl34 said:

YOU got on the sideline?!?! How did you manage? Did you get a headset?! Special Olympics Day??!

No. The play was from the one yard line and he wanted to set up his defense. I am not going to blame him on that. Culpepper can fart one yard.

As for the "injury timeout", I looked it up. Apparently, a fourth time out is allowed for an injured player under two minutes as long as he leaves the field. Normally there would be a ten second runoff but the game can't end on a defensive penalty.

Too bad YOU aren't the coach of the Lions. Because if you were you'd know that they had a much better chance of winning with Culpepper in than Stafford.

That's the slam dunk here. Thanks to Mangini, the Lions had a choice about who they'd have at QB for the last play.

Did they choose Culpepper, as they would have been forced to do if Mangini hadn't given them the gift of that time out?

Nope. Given the choices they decided Stafford gave them the best chance to win, and they put him back in thanks to Mangini.

And they won.

[Kosar_For_President]

@joesixpat said:

Too bad YOU aren't the coach of the Lions. Because if you were you'd know that they had a much better chance of winning with Culpepper in than Stafford.

That's the slam dunk here. Thanks to Mangini, the Lions had a choice about who they'd have at QB for the last play.

Did they choose Culpepper, as they would have been forced to do if Mangini hadn't given them the gift of that time out?

Nope. Given the choices they decided Stafford gave them the best chance to win, and they put him back in thanks to Mangini.

And they won.

Go Chiefs.

[Earl34]

@joesixpat said:

Too bad YOU aren't the coach of the Lions. Because if you were you'd know that they had a much better chance of winning with Culpepper in than Stafford.

That's the slam dunk here. Thanks to Mangini, the Lions had a choice about who they'd have at QB for the last play.

Did they choose Culpepper, as they would have been forced to do if Mangini hadn't given them the gift of that time out?

Nope. Given the choices they decided Stafford gave them the best chance to win, and they put him back in thanks to Mangini.

And they won.

Bullshit. Even the Lions can punch it in from the 1. You need your defense set. It's all "Mangini" with you. Give it a rest Joe.

[JoeSixPat]

Formerly Stone said:

This is one of the things that simply amazes me about some of you guys, you simply can't accept that shit happens! There was absolutely PI on the play, the rules states that a game can not end on a defensive penalty. And the Browns calling timeout is what allowed Stafford to come back in.

Exactly what did the refs get wrong? Maybe they called PI on the wrong number but that means nothing.

Correct. It hurts because in 90% of the games the refs wouldn't do what the rule books say they should, and call PI.

In this case they did what they rules said they should, and it hurt the Browns.

The Lions would have a more legitimate beef if they hadn't made the call than the Browns have for the call not being made.

In a perfect world the refs follow the rules whether it's the first or last play of the game.

So what's worse. The refs ending the game with the correct call? Or the refs ending the game with the incorrect call?

I think most would agree the refs should make the correct call all the time to be fair, but I understand the frustration that players and fans have knowing that in most games the refs simply turn their heads the other way.

[Kosar_For_President]

Formerly Stone said:

Dude, are you 10? You always come off as the guy who simply can't accept reality. If the Browns lose, you have to blame the refs, or the other team for cheating, or some silly ass stuff. Accept it, they lost in a freak situation.....it happens all the time.....stop whining about it and go have your Fruity Pebbles!

Typically hillbilly. If you can read, I said they shouldn't of been in that situation in the first place. So if you want to group "all us guys" into one group go ahead, it's just showing your hillbilly roots. No go eat your cousins vajayjay. Move along, move along (pat on head).

[Kosar_For_President]

Wow this is rich. 2 fag Steeler fans giving each other the Rusty Trombone on a BROWNS BOARD. A day after they lost to the Chiefs.