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Cleveland Browns name Fred Nance as team general counsel

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  • ATENEARSA ATENEARS

    "The naming of Fred Nance as General Counsel strengthens our ability to manage any number of matters," said Browns Owner Randy Lerner.

    WTF, does that mean? The only "numbers that matter" are on the scoreboard.

    I wasn't a Lerner basher as much as some, but doesn't anyone else find it real strange that this idiot gave Dawgpound Mike the time of day and then came out with this heartfelt desire for a "Football Czar" to hush the masses ... yet hasn't made a single statement or step in that direction since ... until now, regarding ... what? a Bean counter?

    @atenears said:

    "The naming of Fred Nance as General Counsel strengthens our ability to manage any number of matters," said Browns Owner Randy Lerner.

    WTF, does that mean? The only "numbers that matter" are on the scoreboard.

    I wasn't a Lerner basher as much as some, but doesn't anyone else find it real strange that this idiot gave Dawgpound Mike the time of day and then came out with this heartfelt desire for a "Football Czar" to hush the masses ... yet hasn't made a single statement or step in that direction since ... until now, regarding ... what? a Bean counter?

    nance is one of the most respected lawyers in the mid west and brings instant credibility to the organization. He was also Mayor michael whites point man in the fight for the browns against modell.

    Its definitely a step in the right direction.

    What we're seeing here in 2010 is precisely what happened in NE a decade ago. It worked for them then, and it wiill work for us now. Why? Because it's the only way it's ever worked in pro football. Just ask Paul Brown. Or Vince Lombardi. Or Tom Landry. .02, Clemdawg

  • Interesting. Nance is connected to anything and everything in NE Ohio, including the PD. But credibility? Maybe with the crowd at Johnny's, but not at the bars I pregame at.

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  • Its nothing atenears its just randy hiring someone else to do his job for him and to blame it on when it dont work out...Wow we have different levels of counseling is this a football organization or an advisers firm...i have to wonder if randolph really "gets it"...this does nothing for the crumbling city or the ailing fans of this once great franchise..

    We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS!
    ballpeenB 1 Reply
  • V vdogrowz

    Interesting. Nance is connected to anything and everything in NE Ohio, including the PD. But credibility? Maybe with the crowd at Johnny's, but not at the bars I pregame at.

    @vdogrowz said:

    Interesting. Nance is connected to anything and everything in NE Ohio, including the PD. But credibility? Maybe with the crowd at Johnny's, but not at the bars I pregame at.

    Well not exactly credibility with the average fan, but with the folks around the league.

    What we're seeing here in 2010 is precisely what happened in NE a decade ago. It worked for them then, and it wiill work for us now. Why? Because it's the only way it's ever worked in pro football. Just ask Paul Brown. Or Vince Lombardi. Or Tom Landry. .02, Clemdawg
  • ATENEARSA ATENEARS

    "The naming of Fred Nance as General Counsel strengthens our ability to manage any number of matters," said Browns Owner Randy Lerner.

    WTF, does that mean? The only "numbers that matter" are on the scoreboard.

    I wasn't a Lerner basher as much as some, but doesn't anyone else find it real strange that this idiot gave Dawgpound Mike the time of day and then came out with this heartfelt desire for a "Football Czar" to hush the masses ... yet hasn't made a single statement or step in that direction since ... until now, regarding ... what? a Bean counter?

    @atenears said:

    "The naming of Fred Nance as General Counsel strengthens our ability to manage any number of matters," said Browns Owner Randy Lerner.

    WTF, does that mean? The only "numbers that matter" are on the scoreboard.

    I wasn't a Lerner basher as much as some, but doesn't anyone else find it real strange that this idiot gave Dawgpound Mike the time of day and then came out with this heartfelt desire for a "Football Czar" to hush the masses ... yet hasn't made a single statement or step in that direction since ... until now, regarding ... what? a Bean counter?

    Quit complaining. The guy needs help and he hired some help.

    BTW, the bold font is very Zomboish. Nice touch.

  • GipsG Gips

    Its nothing atenears its just randy hiring someone else to do his job for him and to blame it on when it dont work out...Wow we have different levels of counseling is this a football organization or an advisers firm...i have to wonder if randolph really "gets it"...this does nothing for the crumbling city or the ailing fans of this once great franchise..

    @gips said:

    Its nothing atenears its just randy hiring someone else to do his job for him and to blame it on when it dont work out...

    I doubt randy is an attorney qualified to handle the teams legal affairs, so he isn't hiring someone to do his job.

    I was under the impression we had already hired Nance...hmmm...at any rate, good move by the club.

    Now that Randy has hired a more than competent attorney to head up the team from the legal front, let's hope he follows up and hires a competent football guy to head up the football front.

    Both are important, but not many tickets are sold to watch legal heavyweights slug it out in court or watch the deft legal maneuvers to keep it out of court or get a summary judgment.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
    ATENEARSA The GipperT 2 Replies
  • Good move.
    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
  • ballpeenB ballpeen

    @gips said:

    Its nothing atenears its just randy hiring someone else to do his job for him and to blame it on when it dont work out...

    I doubt randy is an attorney qualified to handle the teams legal affairs, so he isn't hiring someone to do his job.

    I was under the impression we had already hired Nance...hmmm...at any rate, good move by the club.

    Now that Randy has hired a more than competent attorney to head up the team from the legal front, let's hope he follows up and hires a competent football guy to head up the football front.

    Both are important, but not many tickets are sold to watch legal heavyweights slug it out in court or watch the deft legal maneuvers to keep it out of court or get a summary judgment.

    @ballpeen said:

    I was under the impression we had already hired Nance...hmmm...

    You're right, I do remember it being stated that they would retain Nance regarding a case against Kokinis .... In football related News, apparently DawgPound Mike is back on board, I believe I read some Steeler smack from him.

    ... All is right in the World.

    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • ballpeenB ballpeen

    @gips said:

    Its nothing atenears its just randy hiring someone else to do his job for him and to blame it on when it dont work out...

    I doubt randy is an attorney qualified to handle the teams legal affairs, so he isn't hiring someone to do his job.

    I was under the impression we had already hired Nance...hmmm...at any rate, good move by the club.

    Now that Randy has hired a more than competent attorney to head up the team from the legal front, let's hope he follows up and hires a competent football guy to head up the football front.

    Both are important, but not many tickets are sold to watch legal heavyweights slug it out in court or watch the deft legal maneuvers to keep it out of court or get a summary judgment.

    @ballpeen said:

    I doubt randy is an attorney qualified to handle the teams legal affairs, so he isn't hiring someone to do his job.

    I was under the impression we had already hired Nance...hmmm...at any rate, good move by the club.

    Now that Randy has hired a more than competent attorney to head up the team from the legal front, let's hope he follows up and hires a competent football guy to head up the football front.

    Both are important, but not many tickets are sold to watch legal heavyweights slug it out in court or watch the deft legal maneuvers to keep it out of court or get a summary judgment.

    Right, every NFL team has a general counsel. I am assuming Nance was hired to replace someone who has left. And, as mentioned, Nance was the lead counsel....successful....in the cities suit against Modell to enforce its lease. (If nothing else, if this move sends even a slight eff you message to Modell, it is worth it.). The fact is, this move is practically a semi-retirement move for Nance.

  • ATENEARSA ATENEARS

    @ballpeen said:

    I was under the impression we had already hired Nance...hmmm...

    You're right, I do remember it being stated that they would retain Nance regarding a case against Kokinis .... In football related News, apparently DawgPound Mike is back on board, I believe I read some Steeler smack from him.

    ... All is right in the World.

    @atenears said:

    You're right, I do remember it being stated that they would retain Nance regarding a case against Kokinis .... In football related News, apparently DawgPound Mike is back on board, I believe I read some Steeler smack from him.

    ... All is right in the World.

    Up to this point, Nance was probably what we call "outhouse" counsel. In other words, he had his own private firm in which he practiced and was retained by the Browns as a client. Now, it appears that he will be their "inhouse" counsel, i.e., a full time, salaried employee of the team.

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