Quinn...
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It was the Chargers, right Stan?
It was the Chargers, right Stan?
Yeah, and that first drive was special. If we could get Quinn and the receivers to be as comfortable as they were on the first drive, we wouldn't have to wait until garbage time to see it again after the scripted plays were used up.
Quinn was as accurate on the first drive and the receivers ran the patterns precisely on those six throw sas any I've seen on the lake front from the Browns & Orange this decade. But then we played the same ball we've been playing here that usually gets the starting QB the sharp barbs. Plenty of holding onto the ball too long because the receivers couldn't get seperation, plenty of miscue's in the no-huddle plays that I think we should scrap that idea. Plenty of protection break-downs, having to throw the ball before ready and resulting in passes behind, passes at the feet, etc ...
Had Quinn had more than one good drive before falling behind by three TD's, I would have came on here and ate some crow. But one drive to start the game or one drive middle through the second quarter is still just one good drive while the game is in contention ... and not good enough.
We stil needed the WildDawg to get us into the Red Zone, thereafter (yet fumbled, Hi DA Bashers!). I could care less about the stat padding in the final minutes.
I'll give ya a golf clap for the ONE drive though, congrats Brady Nation ... awesome!
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I will gladly root for Quinn but until these last few weeks the guy has looked terrible FOR 3 YEARS! I want to be wrong and if continues to improve I will be wrong and I will like it! Saying that Quinn has been terrible for 3 years is accurate and true. It doesn't mean I've rooted against him on any level. I hoped Gradkowski would have thrown for 300 yards for us and beat Pittsburgh it doesn't matter who's in there, I want them to be good, always. But Quinn has been inaccurate, scared, indecisive, and lacked the ability to throw over 10 yards with any control whatsover since he's been here. After Detroit and then SD he has looked better, I'm not ready to say he is the answer at all but it is encouraging. And I bet it will be hard to find any Browns fan who hasn't like Quinn's game to root against him now or before. I don't believe that has ever been our stance. I've read a lot of "Don't the door hit you in the ass DA" But haven't seen that attitude for Quinn too much.
I just joined this board not too long ago. From all the posts on here and from the opinions of friends and family I've noticed one thing. People who gereraly like DA would love nothing more than for BQ to do well and win. Totally different story for people who get a hard on everytime he completes a pass for more than ten yards. ITS A ONE WAY STREET with these fans.
Jerome Harrison plays against the Bangels racks up 129 yards and Da has one of his better games this year.
jerome Harrison doesn't get seen again DA struggles and SO DOES BQ.
Jerome Harrison starts against San Diego runs on all but one first down on the first drive ( 4 carries for 22yds) sets up play action that gets recievers open.
Jerome harrison - seeing a pattern here- has two recieveing TD where he catches the ball and runs thru guys on both TDS.
Player of game is Jerome Harrison. He needs to be in there for BQ to do well.
I just joined this board not too long ago. From all the posts on here and from the opinions of friends and family I've noticed one thing. People who gereraly like DA would love nothing for BQ to do well and win. Totally different story for people who get a hard on everytime he completes a pass for more than ten yards. ITS A ONE WAY STREET with these fans.
Jerome Harrison plays against the Bangels racks up 129 yards and Da has one of his better games this year.
jerome Harrison doesn't get seen again DA struggles and SO DOES BQ.
Jerome Harrison starts against San Diego runs on all but one first down on the first drive ( 4 carries for 22yds) sets up play action that gets recievers open.
Jerome harrison - seeing a pattern here- has two recieveing TD where he catches the ball and runs thru guys on both TDS.
Player of game is Jerome Harrison. He needs to be in there for BQ to do well.
Hey, Jerome Harrison. Welcome to the forum.
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Quinn looked pretty good yesterday. He might turn into a fairly decent QB given time. I think we should keep him.
Quinn looked pretty good yesterday. He might turn into a fairly decent QB given time. I think we should keep him.
He is improving and finding chemistry with the receivers. I still want to see him finish. For those stating that getting pulled after 10-qtrs was too short, let's becareful not to grant him a throne over a half dozen good quarters out of the last 16.
We have four games left ... let's continue to monitor his progress. We will have plenty of time to hash-out whether we think he should stay or not.
Hell at this point, Gradkowski should have been kept for less money.
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Quinn looked good for ONE drive, the end of the third and 4th were garbage stats, the chargers already had us beat and were just playing soft to make us use time.
I like Quinn when he stands in the pocket and reads the defense, his short passes (below 15 yards) are accurate with touch. bombs are just bombs not a sign of arm strength because he still does not throw the 15-30 yard tight passes.
I LOVED his first drive because it looked like a NFL level drive..... and we scored, we caught passes, we ran aggressively. After the adjustments we just went kaput again...... you cant go dry for the second and third quarter after a NFL offense creates a 3 score lead.
You can love the stats.... which are deceptive because of garbage time because at the beginning of the 3rd his comp rate was around 50% after we were losing by three scores...
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I will gladly root for Quinn but until these last few weeks the guy has looked terrible FOR 3 YEARS! I want to be wrong and if continues to improve I will be wrong and I will like it! Saying that Quinn has been terrible for 3 years is accurate and true. It doesn't mean I've rooted against him on any level. I hoped Gradkowski would have thrown for 300 yards for us and beat Pittsburgh it doesn't matter who's in there, I want them to be good, always. But Quinn has been inaccurate, scared, indecisive, and lacked the ability to throw over 10 yards with any control whatsover since he's been here. After Detroit and then SD he has looked better, I'm not ready to say he is the answer at all but it is encouraging. And I bet it will be hard to find any Browns fan who hasn't like Quinn's game to root against him now or before. I don't believe that has ever been our stance. I've read a lot of "Don't the door hit you in the ass DA" But haven't seen that attitude for Quinn too much.
I just joined this board not too long ago. From all the posts on here and from the opinions of friends and family I've noticed one thing. People who gereraly like DA would love nothing more than for BQ to do well and win. Totally different story for people who get a hard on everytime he completes a pass for more than ten yards. ITS A ONE WAY STREET with these fans.
Jerome Harrison plays against the Bangels racks up 129 yards and Da has one of his better games this year.
jerome Harrison doesn't get seen again DA struggles and SO DOES BQ.
Jerome Harrison starts against San Diego runs on all but one first down on the first drive ( 4 carries for 22yds) sets up play action that gets recievers open.
Jerome harrison - seeing a pattern here- has two recieveing TD where he catches the ball and runs thru guys on both TDS.
Player of game is Jerome Harrison. He needs to be in there for BQ to do well.
I just joined this board not too long ago. From all the posts on here and from the opinions of friends and family I've noticed one thing. People who gereraly like DA would love nothing more than for BQ to do well and win. Totally different story for people who get a hard on everytime he completes a pass for more than ten yards. ITS A ONE WAY STREET with these fans.
Jerome Harrison plays against the Bangels racks up 129 yards and Da has one of his better games this year.
jerome Harrison doesn't get seen again DA struggles and SO DOES BQ.
Jerome Harrison starts against San Diego runs on all but one first down on the first drive ( 4 carries for 22yds) sets up play action that gets recievers open.
Jerome harrison - seeing a pattern here- has two recieveing TD where he catches the ball and runs thru guys on both TDS.
Player of game is Jerome Harrison. He needs to be in there for BQ to do well.
Definitely a pattern. If a QB is surrounded by a team that plays like crap, the QB will look like crap.
Both Browns QBs experienced that earlier in the year.
Now that the team's new guys are starting to get it more together under Mangini, the QB benefits. I still want to see Quinn win as many games as DA has this year to say anything too positive about him or too negative about DA. Quinn should be able to win 2-3 games over his 10/11 starts this year or he's not really improving at all.
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Quinn looked good for ONE drive, the end of the third and 4th were garbage stats, the chargers already had us beat and were just playing soft to make us use time.
I like Quinn when he stands in the pocket and reads the defense, his short passes (below 15 yards) are accurate with touch. bombs are just bombs not a sign of arm strength because he still does not throw the 15-30 yard tight passes.
I LOVED his first drive because it looked like a NFL level drive..... and we scored, we caught passes, we ran aggressively. After the adjustments we just went kaput again...... you cant go dry for the second and third quarter after a NFL offense creates a 3 score lead.
You can love the stats.... which are deceptive because of garbage time because at the beginning of the 3rd his comp rate was around 50% after we were losing by three scores...
Quinn looked good for ONE drive, the end of the third and 4th were garbage stats, the chargers already had us beat and were just playing soft to make us use time.
I like Quinn when he stands in the pocket and reads the defense, his short passes (below 15 yards) are accurate with touch. bombs are just bombs not a sign of arm strength because he still does not throw the 15-30 yard tight passes.
I LOVED his first drive because it looked like a NFL level drive..... and we scored, we caught passes, we ran aggressively. After the adjustments we just went kaput again...... you cant go dry for the second and third quarter after a NFL offense creates a 3 score lead.
You can love the stats.... which are deceptive because of garbage time because at the beginning of the 3rd his comp rate was around 50% after we were losing by three scores...
What makes the touchdowns in the 4th garbage time touchdowns? I thought the fourth quarter was the most important quarter of the game. If we had engineered a comeback, people wouldn't be calling them "garbage time" TDs. They'd be calling it a comeback effort. We scored with 9 minutes left, and then 2 minutes left. We had two timeouts still when we kicked the last onside kick with 40 seconds left. Had we recovered the onside kick, we would have only had to go 50 yards for a touchdown. We had time to tie the game, had we recovered the kick. It's not garbage time when you have a chance to tie or win.
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Quinn looked good for ONE drive, the end of the third and 4th were garbage stats, the chargers already had us beat and were just playing soft to make us use time.
I like Quinn when he stands in the pocket and reads the defense, his short passes (below 15 yards) are accurate with touch. bombs are just bombs not a sign of arm strength because he still does not throw the 15-30 yard tight passes.
I LOVED his first drive because it looked like a NFL level drive..... and we scored, we caught passes, we ran aggressively. After the adjustments we just went kaput again...... you cant go dry for the second and third quarter after a NFL offense creates a 3 score lead.
You can love the stats.... which are deceptive because of garbage time because at the beginning of the 3rd his comp rate was around 50% after we were losing by three scores...
What makes the touchdowns in the 4th garbage time touchdowns? I thought the fourth quarter was the most important quarter of the game. If we had engineered a comeback, people wouldn't be calling them "garbage time" TDs. They'd be calling it a comeback effort. We scored with 9 minutes left, and then 2 minutes left. We had two timeouts still when we kicked the last onside kick with 40 seconds left. Had we recovered the onside kick, we would have only had to go 50 yards for a touchdown. We had time to tie the game, had we recovered the kick. It's not garbage time when you have a chance to tie or win.
What makes the touchdowns in the 4th garbage time touchdowns? I thought the fourth quarter was the most important quarter of the game. If we had engineered a comeback, people wouldn't be calling them "garbage time" TDs. They'd be calling it a comeback effort. We scored with 9 minutes left, and then 2 minutes left. We had two timeouts still when we kicked the last onside kick with 40 seconds left. Had we recovered the onside kick, we would have only had to go 50 yards for a touchdown. We had time to tie the game, had we recovered the kick. It's not garbage time when you have a chance to tie or win.
Don't buy into the negative Quinn haters. Anyone can see that he is improving and showing that he is a leader and can manage the offense. He is working with rookies like Robiskie, and players with little experience like himself. Some of these idiots will be telling us that DA is better no matter what Quinn does. He still has a lot to prove, but I think to most of us, DA has already proven himself. Quinn has been mishandled and when the haters claim that he has 3 years experience, that is just one sided crap. How many games has he started?.......7 maybe? I'm convinced that he is going to be an above average qb.....in spite of Crennel and Mangini not knowing how to handle him.
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I've been a big fan of the kid, he's looking like he's looked in the past when he was comfortable. Against Denver last year, Detroit and Chargers this year, as well as throughout all the preseasons. He has the tools, and can scramble. I'm so glad he got in there again. He got so screwed early in the season.
He gets reamed for his accuracy but much of the time, he's putting the ball where the receiver can make a play and the defense can't intercept. Not all the time, but sometimes it's intended to be behind the receiver. I can't say the same for DA.
I think BQ is more versatile and really seems smart and will keep improving. His intelligence showed in how well he handled himself throughout this mess. Look at how mature he was in interviews and always saying the right stuff.
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Quinn looked good for ONE drive, the end of the third and 4th were garbage stats, the chargers already had us beat and were just playing soft to make us use time.
I like Quinn when he stands in the pocket and reads the defense, his short passes (below 15 yards) are accurate with touch. bombs are just bombs not a sign of arm strength because he still does not throw the 15-30 yard tight passes.
I LOVED his first drive because it looked like a NFL level drive..... and we scored, we caught passes, we ran aggressively. After the adjustments we just went kaput again...... you cant go dry for the second and third quarter after a NFL offense creates a 3 score lead.
You can love the stats.... which are deceptive because of garbage time because at the beginning of the 3rd his comp rate was around 50% after we were losing by three scores...
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Thought i would add this here as it deals with BQ.
I was shopping yesterday and started BSing with some guy sitting on the bench next to me..evidently he likes to park himself in front of Victoria's Secret just as I do when it comes time to rest a few minutes
Anyway, he is a Seahawks fan who moved here this past year and the talk turned to football.
He asked me about Quinn as he found out I went to last weeks game. I told him Quinn looked pretty good last week....something to build on.
He said "maybe so, but that guy just isn't a NFL QB".
He wasn't smack talking or anything like that....just giving his opinion.
That seems to be a common perception by people who don't have a stake in the team one way or another.
I hope BQ can follow-up tonight and start changing that feeling.
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Thought i would add this here as it deals with BQ.
I was shopping yesterday and started BSing with some guy sitting on the bench next to me..evidently he likes to park himself in front of Victoria's Secret just as I do when it comes time to rest a few minutes
Anyway, he is a Seahawks fan who moved here this past year and the talk turned to football.
He asked me about Quinn as he found out I went to last weeks game. I told him Quinn looked pretty good last week....something to build on.
He said "maybe so, but that guy just isn't a NFL QB".
He wasn't smack talking or anything like that....just giving his opinion.
That seems to be a common perception by people who don't have a stake in the team one way or another.
I hope BQ can follow-up tonight and start changing that feeling.
Thought i would add this here as it deals with BQ.
I was shopping yesterday and started BSing with some guy sitting on the bench next to me..evidently he likes to park himself in front of Victoria's Secret just as I do when it comes time to rest a few minutes
Anyway, he is a Seahawks fan who moved here this past year and the talk turned to football.
He asked me about Quinn as he found out I went to last weeks game. I told him Quinn looked pretty good last week....something to build on.
He said "maybe so, but that guy just isn't a NFL QB".
He wasn't smack talking or anything like that....just giving his opinion.
That seems to be a common perception by people who don't have a stake in the team one way or another.
I hope BQ can follow-up tonight and start changing that feeling.
Well....contrary to what the genius from Seattle had to say, Quinn is an NFL qb, and he's finally getting a chance to develop his skills, and getting the experience every young qb needs. He's probably still pissed off about the trade that brought Omar Visquel to the Indians....not to mention....it's the only place in the country that has worse weather than us.
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