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  • Holmgren in Cleveland talking with Browns

    http://www.ohio.com/sports/79304082.html

    By Patrick McManamon

    Beacon Journal sports columnist

    The Browns search for a new leader of football has taken a surprising — and potentially pleasant — turn.

    Mike Holmgren spent Monday afternoon and evening in Cleveland meeting with the Browns.

    He will spend today in Berea, as well.

    Holmgren is discussing joining the Browns as the team's football leader, the ''czar'' of football, for lack of a better word.

    It's a job he has not held in his career, but he brings strong credentials.

    As a coach, Holmgren won one Super Bowl with the Green Bay Packers and took the Seattle Seahawks to another.

    With the Seahawks, he initially held the job as coach and general manager, but the team asked him to give up the GM duties.

    Holmgren would guide the ship in Cleveland, where he would do one job and not two.

    His input and thinking would be the guiding force in the hiring of a GM, and in the future of coach Eric Mangini.

    Holmgren is almost universally respected in the league, and he is obviously interested in returning to the league after taking a year off.

    He retired as a coach after the 2009 season with the Seahawks.

    It's not known if Holmgren would accept a job immediately; he's a thoughtful guy who probably would want to think things through. But Browns owner Randy Lerner is working hard to convince Holmgren the Browns would be right for him.

    As for Mangini's future, many rumors and reports have trickled out of Berea that the win over the Pittsburgh Steelers guarantees that Mangini will be back in 2010.

    What the win did was make the Browns 2-11, and Lerner has to be aware of that reality.

    Lerner, though, will not force his will on the new football leader. The team's owner will have input into the coach, but he will not force a decision on someone he hires to run his football operations.

  • I'd love to have him but not at the expense of Mangini. We can't afford to start all over yet again.

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  • S samoth

    I'd love to have him but not at the expense of Mangini. We can't afford to start all over yet again.

    @samoth said:

    I'd love to have him but not at the expense of Mangini. We can't afford to start all over yet again.

    Bingo.

    ...searching for Nev Chandler..."5,4,3,2,1, Touchdown Browns!!

  • Whats up all, new account guy here. Good to be here!!!

    Just heard on wknr that grossi is reporting that not only holmgren, but also his agent is in berea today. And tony pointed out that his agent only travels with clients when contracts are being negotiated?

    ATENEARSA 1 Reply

  • Don't hold your breath. He is going to Seattle, he just wants to see how big our carrot is so he can dangle it in front of the seahawks brass to get more money.

    ThaakT 1 Reply
  • C Circleville brown fan

    Whats up all, new account guy here. Good to be here!!!

    Just heard on wknr that grossi is reporting that not only holmgren, but also his agent is in berea today. And tony pointed out that his agent only travels with clients when contracts are being negotiated?

    @circleville-brown-fan said:

    Whats up all, new account guy here. Good to be here!!!

    Just heard on wknr that grossi is reporting that not only holmgren, but also his agent is in berea today. And tony pointed out that his agent only travels with clients when contracts are being negotiated?

    Welcome aboard.

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  • B bonedawg

    Don't hold your breath. He is going to Seattle, he just wants to see how big our carrot is so he can dangle it in front of the seahawks brass to get more money.

    @bonedawg said:

    Don't hold your breath. He is going to Seattle, he just wants to see how big our carrot is so he can dangle it in front of the seahawks brass to get more money.

    Don't hold your breath, reports I'm hearing is that Seattle may not want him.

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  • Why would Holmgren go back to Seattle after retiring from Seattle? That doesn't make any sense.

    And as for starting over? We don't have anything now, so there's really nothing to lose. But if Mangini is willing to be led by Holmgren and they get the right talent, maybe they can make some progress. Mangini wasn't exactly handed the Minnesota Vikings when he came to Cleveland and he did finally get rid of the cancers in the locker room.

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  • ThaakT Thaak

    @bonedawg said:

    Don't hold your breath. He is going to Seattle, he just wants to see how big our carrot is so he can dangle it in front of the seahawks brass to get more money.

    Don't hold your breath, reports I'm hearing is that Seattle may not want him.

    @thaak said:

    Don't hold your breath, reports I'm hearing is that Seattle may not want him.

    I did not hear these reports. If that is true, sign him Lerner...only of course if you get approval from Cleveland Mike and the fan advisory panel first.

  • Why would Holmgren go back to Seattle after retiring from Seattle? That doesn't make any sense.

    Money..he can go back to seattle see their offer ,then up the addy return to cleveland to see if lerner will match..or he will somehow feel more comfy in seattle and go there ,lets hope he will find brownstown comforting and stay...

    And as for starting over? We don't have anything now, so there's really nothing to lose. But if Mangini is willing to be led by Holmgren and they get the right talent, maybe they can make some progress. Mangini wasn't exactly handed the Minnesota Vikings when he came to Cleveland and he did finally get rid of the cancers in the locker room.

    I agree we really have nothing a good coach cant make better in a month of off season than mangini accomplished wasting a whole live season ,if holmgren comes he would likely leave the genie choice up to the unknown GM but regardless if they keep the genie he will have to shape up next year or he will be shipped out......

    We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS!
  • GipsG Gips

    Why would Holmgren go back to Seattle after retiring from Seattle? That doesn't make any sense.

    Money..he can go back to seattle see their offer ,then up the addy return to cleveland to see if lerner will match..or he will somehow feel more comfy in seattle and go there ,lets hope he will find brownstown comforting and stay...

    And as for starting over? We don't have anything now, so there's really nothing to lose. But if Mangini is willing to be led by Holmgren and they get the right talent, maybe they can make some progress. Mangini wasn't exactly handed the Minnesota Vikings when he came to Cleveland and he did finally get rid of the cancers in the locker room.

    I agree we really have nothing a good coach cant make better in a month of off season than mangini accomplished wasting a whole live season ,if holmgren comes he would likely leave the genie choice up to the unknown GM but regardless if they keep the genie he will have to shape up next year or he will be shipped out......

    @gips said:

    I agree we really have nothing a good coach cant make better in a month of off season than mangini accomplished wasting a whole live season ,if holmgren comes he would likely leave the genie choice up to the unknown GM but regardless if they keep the genie he will have to shape up next year or he will be shipped out......

    i dont think any good coach could have turned us around in a month. The progress has been a lot slower than i anticipated esp on the offensive side of the ball and hence we were hardly competing. Im sure many are more surprised by the nature of the losses than at our losses. Hopefully, the new season brings more offense.

  • Mangini was just interviewed on WTAM and said the talks with Holmgren were "early in the process, getting to know one another". Doesn't sound like anything close to happening.

  • Lol @ Mangini.

    "Process" is his trademark.

    BARK ORANGE & BROWN

  • Bruce Drennan says, Holmgren has been in town with his agent, who ONLY gets involved

    when things are serious.

    I think it would be an excellent move, Holmgren is a very high class character, and really knows his football.

    I kinda hope he would convince Mangini to dump daboll, though.... @@

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  • You guys who want to keep Mangina are Retarded

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  • C calfoxwc

    Bruce Drennan says, Holmgren has been in town with his agent, who ONLY gets involved

    when things are serious.

    I think it would be an excellent move, Holmgren is a very high class character, and really knows his football.

    I kinda hope he would convince Mangini to dump daboll, though.... @@

    @calfoxwc said:

    Bruce Drennan says, Holmgren has been in town with his agent, who ONLY gets involved

    when things are serious.

    I think it would be an excellent move, Holmgren is a very high class character, and really knows his football.

    I kinda hope he would convince Mangini to dump daboll, though.... @@

    It could be a done deal by tomorrow if his agent is there.

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  • Rooster DickR Rooster Dick

    You guys who want to keep Mangina are Retarded

    Chickenwang said:

    You guys who want to keep Mangina are Retarded

    I truely believe that if the browns release mangini they will be releasing another super bowl coach, this time I would like that coach to stay with the browns

  • Rooster DickR Rooster Dick

    You guys who want to keep Mangina are Retarded

    Chickenwang said:

    You guys who want to keep Mangina are Retarded

    Anyone who would say that is Retarded. With the team he was given it is nearly impossible for a person in your position to make any sort of accurate judgment. If you can critique a coach from your sofa and be accurate then i am willing to invest money into a consulting business. We will make a fortune consulting for every athletics organization on earth and hire only the perfect coach for them each time.

  • I am one of those folks who are for keeping Mangini to see what happens. After all, we kept Romeo for multiple years, resulting in 4-12...The man deserves more than a year with his program & we need continuity. HOWEVER, first & foremost is relieving Lerner of running football operations, & if we could land a credible football guy like Holmgren to "right the ship", then I will support whatever his decisions may be & I would be much more confident IN those decisions.

    One bit of caution.......NO leader is perfect. Whether it be Holmgren or someone else, they will make mistakes. Let's cut them a little slack, OK?

    Mike

    IN DORSEY I TRUST

  • PFT is reporting that he's left Berea at 5pm without a contract. Although nobody has said he's left Cleveland or the state yet and no report on if talks will resume tomorrow.

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