Cleveland Browns' Mangini not committing to quarterback Quinn long-term
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This is a typical example of how the media spins Mangini's comments into something they are not.
"We're going to look at the whole body of work and all of the different things -- and not just for Brady but for the group -- and see where we are and assess it at that point as opposed to doing it right now,"
It wouldn't be very exciting to write, "Mangini will be preparing for the draft like every other NFL coach by assessing the talent on the Browns."
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I don't know who to believe any more
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I said it in another thread, if mangini is still here, Chad Pennington will be our starting QB in 2010. Count on it.
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This is a typical example of how the media spins Mangini's comments into something they are not.
"We're going to look at the whole body of work and all of the different things -- and not just for Brady but for the group -- and see where we are and assess it at that point as opposed to doing it right now,"
It wouldn't be very exciting to write, "Mangini will be preparing for the draft like every other NFL coach by assessing the talent on the Browns."
This is a typical example of how the media spins Mangini's comments into something they are not.
"We're going to look at the whole body of work and all of the different things -- and not just for Brady but for the group -- and see where we are and assess it at that point as opposed to doing it right now,"
It wouldn't be very exciting to write, "Mangini will be preparing for the draft like every other NFL coach by assessing the talent on the Browns."
Thank you..Is Mangini commited to Roth, Pool, Cribbs, Thomas, Barton.??.WTF..Its a Bulls**t loaded question.
Mangini gave the freakin EXACT answer any head coach should give and they turn it into some BS headline like Mangini is wafflling
I'm so sick of these half ass reporters I can't even read the newspaper anymore..seriously
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Some blogger or beat writer threw that horses**t out there.
and you knoiw why.the emergence of Henne makes Chad expenable in Miami
so lets reunite him with Mangini..Really..too pathetic for words..not you Gips
that BS rumor
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This is a typical example of how the media spins Mangini's comments into something they are not.
"We're going to look at the whole body of work and all of the different things -- and not just for Brady but for the group -- and see where we are and assess it at that point as opposed to doing it right now,"
It wouldn't be very exciting to write, "Mangini will be preparing for the draft like every other NFL coach by assessing the talent on the Browns."
This is a typical example of how the media spins Mangini's comments into something they are not.
"We're going to look at the whole body of work and all of the different things -- and not just for Brady but for the group -- and see where we are and assess it at that point as opposed to doing it right now,"
It wouldn't be very exciting to write, "Mangini will be preparing for the draft like every other NFL coach by assessing the talent on the Browns."
EXACTLY! The article is pointless. This is just like every other story about Mangini. Spin, spin, spin, until it gets some legs and gets the writer noticed. They hate him. They hate him because the way he runs his team requires reporters to actually work. Their job revolves areound recording an awesome sound byte or printing an awesome quote. Without those those two items present to do their jobs for them, they don't know what to do. Out of frustration, they aim towards the source. In this case, Mangini, because instead of throwing them nuggets, he worries about football and his team. What a bastard! He just used this article as a chance to say " it isn't clear if Mangini will even be in Cleveland next season". Why does anybody read this crap?
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I don't care if Quinn is the guy or not ,but I really don't want to waste another pick on QB.
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I agree that that quote doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things.
As a piece of a larger puzzler, however, it really makes me wonder whether Mangini has any idea how to instill confidence in his players. Before the past few weeks, I would have said "No" without a doubt. Recently, he has been a bit more forthcoming with the praise. Maybe it is all spin.
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This is a typical example of how the media spins Mangini's comments into something they are not.
"We're going to look at the whole body of work and all of the different things -- and not just for Brady but for the group -- and see where we are and assess it at that point as opposed to doing it right now,"
It wouldn't be very exciting to write, "Mangini will be preparing for the draft like every other NFL coach by assessing the talent on the Browns."
EXACTLY! The article is pointless. This is just like every other story about Mangini. Spin, spin, spin, until it gets some legs and gets the writer noticed. They hate him. They hate him because the way he runs his team requires reporters to actually work. Their job revolves areound recording an awesome sound byte or printing an awesome quote. Without those those two items present to do their jobs for them, they don't know what to do. Out of frustration, they aim towards the source. In this case, Mangini, because instead of throwing them nuggets, he worries about football and his team. What a bastard! He just used this article as a chance to say " it isn't clear if Mangini will even be in Cleveland next season". Why does anybody read this crap?
EXACTLY! The article is pointless. This is just like every other story about Mangini. Spin, spin, spin, until it gets some legs and gets the writer noticed. They hate him. They hate him because the way he runs his team requires reporters to actually work. Their job revolves areound recording an awesome sound byte or printing an awesome quote. Without those those two items present to do their jobs for them, they don't know what to do. Out of frustration, they aim towards the source. In this case, Mangini, because instead of throwing them nuggets, he worries about football and his team. What a bastard! He just used this article as a chance to say " it isn't clear if Mangini will even be in Cleveland next season". Why does anybody read this crap?
I agree. You got me to thinking...
Is it more likely that people will read your article or listen to your radio show if you write about a controversial figure?
This is by NO MEANS scientific, but, Googling the coaches' names results in :
Brad Childress: 360,000 hits*
Ken Whisenhunt: 190,000
Sean Payton: 580,000*
Andy Reid: 308,000
Bill Belichick: 1,250,000
Jim Caldwell: 165,000*
Norv Turner: 240,000
Marvin Lewis: 198,000*
These are the division leaders. Now, let's look at these:
Wade Phillips: 801,000*
Rex Ryan: 1,400,000
Jim Schwarz: 5,600,000*
Raheem Morris: 21,800,000
Clearly, losing and controversy (as well as being named 'Bill Belichick') results in people searching for you.
Where is Eric Mangini today? 518,000
* I googled the name plus the team name since these names are a bit more common)
Just a thought....
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This is a typical example of how the media spins Mangini's comments into something they are not.
"We're going to look at the whole body of work and all of the different things -- and not just for Brady but for the group -- and see where we are and assess it at that point as opposed to doing it right now,"
It wouldn't be very exciting to write, "Mangini will be preparing for the draft like every other NFL coach by assessing the talent on the Browns."
This is a typical example of how the media spins Mangini's comments into something they are not.
"We're going to look at the whole body of work and all of the different things -- and not just for Brady but for the group -- and see where we are and assess it at that point as opposed to doing it right now,"
It wouldn't be very exciting to write, "Mangini will be preparing for the draft like every other NFL coach by assessing the talent on the Browns."
agreed. the media has their hidden agendas and alterior motives, so it's always best that fans look a little deeper into things and not just look at it for face value.
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Wait? So we are 2-11, and have a QB that has won 1 game and has thrown for under 10 TD's - and our Head Coach says that we are going to evaluate are options. And the media finds a way to make him the bad guy?
I feel bad for Mr. Mangini. ESPN has ruined him for anybody that hasn't done their research on how football smart this man is.
This article is a waste of time.
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This is a typical example of how the media spins Mangini's comments into something they are not.
"We're going to look at the whole body of work and all of the different things -- and not just for Brady but for the group -- and see where we are and assess it at that point as opposed to doing it right now,"
It wouldn't be very exciting to write, "Mangini will be preparing for the draft like every other NFL coach by assessing the talent on the Browns."
This is a typical example of how the media spins Mangini's comments into something they are not.
"We're going to look at the whole body of work and all of the different things -- and not just for Brady but for the group -- and see where we are and assess it at that point as opposed to doing it right now,"
It wouldn't be very exciting to write, "Mangini will be preparing for the draft like every other NFL coach by assessing the talent on the Browns."
You are absolutely correct. The only thing that you forgot about (and so too did Mangini) is that in addressing such matters, as a coach, you should understand that a QB's confidence level is very key to his success.
Mangini royally screwed with BOTH his QBs confidence this season (not to mention their trade value), saying that the winner of the QB competition would be given the security to succeed and then pulling the plug on Quinn after 2.5 games.
So while of course, he'll assess every position in the offseason and no one on a 2-14 team is safe, he missed a golden opportunity to publicly talk about the GOOD things Quinn has done of late, giving him a bit more confidence in himself and his ability to reach his potential.
In other words, if Mangini were a smart coach he'd state the obvious (as he tried to do) but then go on to strenghten his QB's confidence in the short and potentially long term by choosing his comments wisely.
#59 in a long list of reasons why Mangini wll likely be looking for work in the offseason.
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This is a typical example of how the media spins Mangini's comments into something they are not.
"We're going to look at the whole body of work and all of the different things -- and not just for Brady but for the group -- and see where we are and assess it at that point as opposed to doing it right now,"
It wouldn't be very exciting to write, "Mangini will be preparing for the draft like every other NFL coach by assessing the talent on the Browns."
You are absolutely correct. The only thing that you forgot about (and so too did Mangini) is that in addressing such matters, as a coach, you should understand that a QB's confidence level is very key to his success.
Mangini royally screwed with BOTH his QBs confidence this season (not to mention their trade value), saying that the winner of the QB competition would be given the security to succeed and then pulling the plug on Quinn after 2.5 games.
So while of course, he'll assess every position in the offseason and no one on a 2-14 team is safe, he missed a golden opportunity to publicly talk about the GOOD things Quinn has done of late, giving him a bit more confidence in himself and his ability to reach his potential.
In other words, if Mangini were a smart coach he'd state the obvious (as he tried to do) but then go on to strenghten his QB's confidence in the short and potentially long term by choosing his comments wisely.
#59 in a long list of reasons why Mangini wll likely be looking for work in the offseason.
You are absolutely correct. The only thing that you forgot about (and so too did Mangini) is that in addressing such matters, as a coach, you should understand that a QB's confidence level is very key to his success.
Mangini royally screwed with BOTH his QBs confidence this season (not to mention their trade value), saying that the winner of the QB competition would be given the security to succeed and then pulling the plug on Quinn after 2.5 games.
So while of course, he'll assess every position in the offseason and no one on a 2-14 team is safe, he missed a golden opportunity to publicly talk about the GOOD things Quinn has done of late, giving him a bit more confidence in himself and his ability to reach his potential.
In other words, if Mangini were a smart coach he'd state the obvious (as he tried to do) but then go on to strenghten his QB's confidence in the short and potentially long term by choosing his comments wisely.
#59 in a long list of reasons why Mangini wll likely be looking for work in the offseason.
Wrong.
You act as though the QB is some emotionally fragile waif. Give me a break. He's a professional football player paid to play his best. I'm not saying it's been great management but I will offer that he gave Quinn the job out of camp and he was pathetic. He had to turn to DA and that was even worse. Then he was in a corner. If you pull the plug twice in the first six weeks then you're really waffling. He rode out DA as far as he could and switched back. This time Quinn was more up to the task but he missed on MOST throws against the Steelers. If he hits ANY of those fourth quarter passes with under eight minutes....they chew up clock and run the thing out.
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You are absolutely correct. The only thing that you forgot about (and so too did Mangini) is that in addressing such matters, as a coach, you should understand that a QB's confidence level is very key to his success.
Mangini royally screwed with BOTH his QBs confidence this season (not to mention their trade value), saying that the winner of the QB competition would be given the security to succeed and then pulling the plug on Quinn after 2.5 games.
So while of course, he'll assess every position in the offseason and no one on a 2-14 team is safe, he missed a golden opportunity to publicly talk about the GOOD things Quinn has done of late, giving him a bit more confidence in himself and his ability to reach his potential.
In other words, if Mangini were a smart coach he'd state the obvious (as he tried to do) but then go on to strenghten his QB's confidence in the short and potentially long term by choosing his comments wisely.
#59 in a long list of reasons why Mangini wll likely be looking for work in the offseason.
Wrong.
You act as though the QB is some emotionally fragile waif. Give me a break. He's a professional football player paid to play his best. I'm not saying it's been great management but I will offer that he gave Quinn the job out of camp and he was pathetic. He had to turn to DA and that was even worse. Then he was in a corner. If you pull the plug twice in the first six weeks then you're really waffling. He rode out DA as far as he could and switched back. This time Quinn was more up to the task but he missed on MOST throws against the Steelers. If he hits ANY of those fourth quarter passes with under eight minutes....they chew up clock and run the thing out.
Wrong.
You act as though the QB is some emotionally fragile waif. Give me a break. He's a professional football player paid to play his best. I'm not saying it's been great management but I will offer that he gave Quinn the job out of camp and he was pathetic. He had to turn to DA and that was even worse. Then he was in a corner. If you pull the plug twice in the first six weeks then you're really waffling. He rode out DA as far as he could and switched back. This time Quinn was more up to the task but he missed on MOST throws against the Steelers. If he hits ANY of those fourth quarter passes with under eight minutes....they chew up clock and run the thing out.
Wrong. Every player is different. They need to be handled different.
Bill Parcells is an excellent case in point. He knew that even as a #1 pick Drew Bledsoe was a sensitive player who needed to have his confidence fostered and nurtured early in his career. He treated him accordingly and it paid off.
Terry Glenn meanwhile needed a wake up call and a fire lit under him. Parcells treated "her" accordingly and it paid off.
One coach - but not one style of dealing with players - and a proven success as a coach.
Mangini is one coach who does seem to have one style of dealing with players and he's yet to prove himself a success.
How Quinn could be the least bit "confident" after a long drawn out battle to be named the starter, be told he would be given the security and support in that position, only to have Mangini pull the rug out from under him after 2.5 games, and then make Quinn sit on the bench for far longer than 2.5 games when Anderson proved himself far worse than Quinn, yet the coach clearly believed Anderson was better than Quinn...
How is that supposed to help boost the confidence of a young QB who has nothing in his NFL career thus far in which to draw a sense of confidence from?
Confidence is very important when a QB needs to gun a ball through tight coverage, having the confidence that he can take a chance and have it pay off - and the confidence to know that if he takes a chance he won't be benched after another 2.5 games.
This is what Mangini has "built" in Cleveland and I can't see how a fresh start would be a bad thing for the entire organization.
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Judging Brady Quinn as a QB with what we have as far as receivers, o-line, running backs, etc. is like judging a highly skilled surgeon while asking him to use a pair of pliers and a screwdriver to operate on someone with.
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Judging Brady Quinn as a QB with what we have as far as receivers, o-line, running backs, etc. is like judging a highly skilled surgeon while asking him to use a pair of pliers and a screwdriver to operate on someone with.
Judging Brady Quinn as a QB with what we have as far as receivers, o-line, running backs, etc. is like judging a highly skilled surgeon while asking him to use a pair of pliers and a screwdriver to operate on someone with.
I agree but I think that as the offensive tools around him improve, we need to see more games where he looks like Chad Pennington than Heath Shuler. He had trouble beating out DEREK ANDERSON for God's sake. I wasn't a fan before and I won't say that I am one now but his work ethic needs to stay strong and he needs to build on the last few games. There is absolutely no reason why he can't have big days against KC and the Raiders.
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