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  • can you not read as well? holy shit your stupidity is unbelievable.

    Before that rule change, a forward pass had to be made from 5 or more yards behind the line of scrimmage.====That still means you could make a forward pass legally einstein, or can you honestly not read?

  • @thaak said:

    Also from the same Wikipedia article:

    Could this be what he's referring to and erroneously reporting that all forward passes were illegal prior to 1933?

    Bingo! someone in Brownstown gets it. The NFL finally legalized and recognized passing stats in 1933.

    wow, someone intelligent.

    @jully said:

    Bingo! someone in Brownstown gets it. The NFL finally legalized and recognized passing stats in 1933.

    wow, someone intelligent.

    talk about selective reading, holy shiza! They legalized all forward passes no matter how far you were behind the line in 1933. However, forward passes were allowed prior to 1933 as long as you were 5 or more yards behind the line of scrimmage.

  • wrong. the nfl legalized passing in 1933 and since then stats were kept.

    sorry browns but those are the facts.

  • @thaak said:

    Also from the same Wikipedia article:

    Could this be what he's referring to and erroneously reporting that all forward passes were illegal prior to 1933?

    Bingo! someone in Brownstown gets it. The NFL finally legalized and recognized passing stats in 1933.

    wow, someone intelligent.

    @jully said:

    Bingo! someone in Brownstown gets it. The NFL finally legalized and recognized passing stats in 1933.

    wow, someone intelligent.

    Dumb ass. What's better then a hillbilly fag looking stupid? A hillbilly fag looking stupid on a Browns board 5 days after getting beat by the Browns.

    In several forms of football a forward pass is when the ball is thrown in the direction that the offensive team is trying to move in, towards the defensive team's goal line. Although forward passes had been tried as early as 1876, the first legal forward pass in American football took place in 1906, after a change in rules. Current rules regulate who may throw and who may receive a forward pass, and under what circumstances, as well as how the defensive team may try to prevent a pass from being completed. The primary pass-thrower is the quarterback, and statistical analysis is used to determine a quarterback's success rate at passing in various situations, as well as a team's overall success at the "passing game."

  • the first legal forward pass in American football took place in 1906. Yes but this was in COLLEGE.. dummy..

  • Eddie Cochem, the Saint Louis University coach, was the first to use the forward pass in 1906. It wasn't legalized in the NFL until 1933.

  • the first legal forward pass in American football took place in 1906. Yes but this was in COLLEGE.. dummy..

    @jully said:

    the first legal forward pass in American football took place in 1906. Yes but this was in COLLEGE.. dummy..

    Love it, keep it coming hillbilly.

    The first forward pass in a professional football game may have been thrown in an Ohio League game played on October 25, 1906. The Ohio League, which traced its history to the 1890s, was the predecessor of today's NFL

  • not the NFL dumbass.. get your facts straight.

  • Eddie Cochem, the Saint Louis University coach, was the first to use the forward pass in 1906. It wasn't legalized in the NFL until 1933.

    @jully said:

    Eddie Cochem, the Saint Louis University coach, was the first to use the forward pass in 1906. It wasn't legalized in the NFL until 1933.

    Specification of the size of the ball for the American game came in 1912, but it was still essentially a rugby ball. Increased use of the forward pass encouraged adoption of a narrower ball, starting with changes in the 1920s which enhanced rifled throwing and also spiral punting.

    Why would they change the shape of the ball if there were no forward passes. Love it. OWNED.

  • not the NFL dumbass.. get your facts straight.

    @jully said:

    not the NFL dumbass.. get your facts straight.

    What ever makes you feel better.

    Hey what's you mom doing tonight, I need to work off the $2.24 she owes me. I gots to get my rape on. Believe me she can take a pounding. Just ask your brother.

  • well at least we know your argument turned into hogwash..thanks!

  • Also from the same Wikipedia article:

    According to National Football League history,[30] it legalized the forward pass from anywhere behind the line of scrimmage on February 25, 1933. Before that rule change, a forward pass had to be made from 5 or more yards behind the line of scrimmage.

    Could this be what he's referring to and erroneously reporting that all forward passes were illegal prior to 1933?

    @thaak said:

    Also from the same Wikipedia article:

    Could this be what he's referring to and erroneously reporting that all forward passes were illegal prior to 1933?

    Yea, the guy is an idiot. They change rules all the time. Did someone not ever "sack" a QB before they began keeping stats for it in the 70s? Tell that to Deacon Jones.

  • @thaak said:

    Also from the same Wikipedia article:

    Could this be what he's referring to and erroneously reporting that all forward passes were illegal prior to 1933?

    Yea, the guy is an idiot. They change rules all the time. Did someone not ever "sack" a QB before they began keeping stats for it in the 70s? Tell that to Deacon Jones.

    @the-gipper said:

    Yea, the guy is an idiot. They change rules all the time. Did someone not ever "sack" a QB before they began keeping stats for it in the 70s? Tell that to Deacon Jones.

    Jilly = Owned

  • a sack was legal a forward pass was not legal in the NFL until 1933.

  • a sack was legal a forward pass was not legal in the NFL until 1933.

    @jully said:

    a sack was legal a forward pass was not legal in the NFL until 1933.

    Specification of the size of the ball for the American game came in 1912, but it was still essentially a rugby ball. Increased use of the forward pass encouraged adoption of a narrower ball, starting with changes in the 1920s which enhanced rifled throwing and also spiral punting.

    Why would they change the shape of the ball if there were no forward passes. Love it. OWNED.

  • wrong. the nfl legalized passing in 1933 and since then stats were kept.

    sorry browns but those are the facts.

    @jully said:

    wrong. the nfl legalized passing in 1933 and since then stats were kept.

    sorry browns but those are the facts.

    Then how the hell did George Halas CATCH Touchdown PASSES for the Bears in the 20s. He was one of the top RECEIVERS in tha time. How did Benny Friedman get 66 Touchdown PASSES between 1927 and 1932?

    You are stuck on 'when stats are kept". I told you, and you can look it up, they didn't keep statistics for RUSHING before then either.

    So, if they could neither pass, nor run....because surely no stats means those things weren't done...how did they matriculate the ball down the field? Levitation? (Oh, but that may have been considered a pass.)

  • wrong. the nfl legalized passing in 1933 and since then stats were kept.

    sorry browns but those are the facts.

    @jully said:

    wrong. the nfl legalized passing in 1933 and since then stats were kept.

    sorry browns but those are the facts.

    No, they are not the facts. Just because you say it (type it in this case), does not make it true.

    Sight your source. Post a link to where you are getting your info.

    I sighted my source, and my source indicated that you were incorrect. The forward pass rules were changed in 1933 to incorporate the legality of a pass between 5 and 0 yards behind the line of scrimmage, while prior to 1933, a forward pass was allowed if the QB was 5 or more yards behind the line of scrimmage.

    Secondly, just because they didn't call themselves the NFL, doesn't mean you can negate the info from that organization. The rules and regulations from the previous organization were carried forward when the NFL formed.

    The NFL was previously known as the American Professional Football Association, formed in 1920 with 11 teams. It changed its name to the NFL in 1922.

    Teams originally playing in the unofficial Ohio League (including Canton Bulldogs) joined the APFA in 1920.

    So do the rules, records and stats from the APFA from 1920 to 1922 not count because the acronym NFL wasn't used? Same organization, they just renamed themselves. As a matter of fact, the original APFA was only consisting of the Ohio League (although many teams chose not to participate in the APFA) but a month later they included Buffalo and a few other teams.

    So my friend, site your source, or forever hold your peace.

  • a sack was legal a forward pass was not legal in the NFL until 1933.

    @jully said:

    a sack was legal a forward pass was not legal in the NFL until 1933.

    Prove it. Cite the rule on a website that says forward passing was specifically PROHIBITED by the NFL prior to 1933.

    And if you find it, you better go to 2121 George Halas Drive, Canton, Ohio and tell the curator there that the Touchdown passes caught by the guy who the street is named for where the particular institution sits has to be erased from their archives because Jully says its so.

    Better yet. How much of your hard earned CASH are you willing to wager that you are right.

    I will put up $500.00 on myself being right.

    Lets see how gutless you really are, punk. Put your money up. We can name an independent escrow agent to hold each of our holdings. We can have a title company in Canton, Ohio hold it. I need a little extra cash for Christmas.

  • @jully said:

    wrong. the nfl legalized passing in 1933 and since then stats were kept.

    sorry browns but those are the facts.

    Then how the hell did George Halas CATCH Touchdown PASSES for the Bears in the 20s. He was one of the top RECEIVERS in tha time. How did Benny Friedman get 66 Touchdown PASSES between 1927 and 1932?

    You are stuck on 'when stats are kept". I told you, and you can look it up, they didn't keep statistics for RUSHING before then either.

    So, if they could neither pass, nor run....because surely no stats means those things weren't done...how did they matriculate the ball down the field? Levitation? (Oh, but that may have been considered a pass.)

    @the-gipper said:

    Then how the hell did George Halas CATCH Touchdown PASSES for the Bears in the 20s. He was one of the top RECEIVERS in tha time. How did Benny Friedman get 66 Touchdown PASSES between 1927 and 1932?

    You are stuck on 'when stats are kept". I told you, and you can look it up, they didn't keep statistics for RUSHING before then either.

    So, if they could neither pass, nor run....because surely no stats means those things weren't done...how did they matriculate the ball down the field? Levitation? (Oh, but that may have been considered a pass.)

    No you idiot! They obviously scored TD's by way of teleportation. Its just that after the great depression people were so depressed and their natural instincts so suppressed by the religious right, that they lost the ability to teleport anything larger than the size of a gonad, and teleporting ones testicles is not really something one might want to do.

  • a sack was legal a forward pass was not legal in the NFL until 1933.

    @jully said:

    a sack was legal a forward pass was not legal in the NFL until 1933.

    Just a sample - NFL STATS - PASSING

    Bold are passing TD's

    1925 NFL Stats

    Jack Ernst, POT 61 130 46.9 714 5.49 8 13 45.0

    1927 NFL Stats

    Benny Friedman, CLE 96 205 46.8 1721 8.40 12 11 73.2

    1930 NFL Stats

    Benny Friedman, NYG 71 124 57.3 1246 10.05 13 9 96.4